View Full Version : dad drugtests randomly, i need advice bro.
dothedo362436
08-14-2007, 04:00 AM
uhhh yeah, its pretty gay, he caught me smoking my pipe. he said ill get a random drugtest, but hasnt gone through with it yet, and its been over 2 months. i just wanted to know if i tested my new bud, would i be okay if my dad tested me sometime before august 20th, and would i pass? i havnt smoked for 2 months, i weigh 120 lbs and im 5' 8". i skate all the sweet, peacefulltime, and i live in a very hot humid climate. PLEASE give me advice based on all your knowledge on this very fine subject.
Dewayne
08-14-2007, 04:04 AM
lol. Well to my knowledge parents are usually merely just scaring their son/daughter so that they will stop. Some may be serious though. I have passed drug tests and smoked 2 days before. I drank a ton of water and took 2 niacins that night, then one the day of the test. I passed.
Niacin is a flushing supplement that can be bought at rite aid or a leading local phamacy. I just say go with your gut feeling. If you feel like you shouldn't smoke, don't. If you think it's okay, do so. But if you find out your gettring a test immediately switch to water and try to sweat. THC is stored in your fat cells. So it prolly wouldn't take much to get out of your system.
~Burn One~
Dewayne
dothedo362436
08-14-2007, 04:09 AM
yeahhh. well how many niacins come in a pack or whatever? because if they come in a big purdy red pack then ill take 2 every night for the next 10 nights. do you think that would be effective at all?
Dewayne
08-14-2007, 04:22 AM
well, they come in a pill botle. They're pills. Prolly like 10 bucks for 40-80 depending on the brand you get. Just take one a night is all that you need. I've heard some people take 2 the night before the drug test then 1 2 hours prior to the test and they were safe. That and lots of water. But you don't want too much water the DAY of the test, drink something else like juice so that your urine is not too watery for them to accept the sample.
~Burn One~
Dewayne
KingKahuuna
08-14-2007, 04:22 AM
Hi there,
You said that you weigh 120 Lbs ? and exercise all the time ? Then you really just need to flush your system with tasty water my man, Your folks threatened to test you ? really I think that most folks would never do that. What would they do to you anyways. I mean would they see that you were locked up or something ?
I also wanted to say welcome to the site, there is a sweet amount of good info here to read on, I would also take a peruse through the site rules so you are aware of things and don't accidently step all over yourself. For example we do not allow foul language as that never really is impressive, and believe it or not all these heads here are really cool. I've never seen such a cool site where everyone is so mellow and funny.
anyways welcome and enjoy
smoke in peace
KingKahuuna
newgrowth
08-14-2007, 04:57 AM
Why not talk to your Dad,tell him you are tired of not being trusted. Tell him if he doesn't trust you, that you would be happy to take a test right now, He will either call your bluff and test you, in that case you would pass being 2 months smoke free, or the threat of a random test would more than likely end, then its new bud time. Just keep things cool after that..
newgrowth
08-14-2007, 05:05 AM
Oh btw you said, if I test my new bud... do you grow under your dads nose? If so how does he not know about it...
Firepower
08-14-2007, 06:50 AM
Just curious, but has anybody even thought of how old this kid might be? and as a parent, i wouldnt want my kid dabbing on to the MJ until he can make his own choice and 18 years old.. LOL....
but seriously i have seen younger people get banned from this forum before due to age and i would think this might be one of them..
Basically we have a lot of grownups here helping an underage KID hide his MJ habits from his parents, something about that just doesnt sound right.. just my 2 cents..
thx firepower....no mod on when he posted. sometimes takes a lil bit to get to it.
No no one should grow behind there parents back. the parents can and will be held liable even if they didn't know about it.
Also gotta be 18 to be on the site.
Dewayne
08-14-2007, 01:55 PM
Yup i figured he was underage by his langauage, his size and how his father is threatening him. But there wasn't much i could do so i figured i'd at least try and help him before he got banned lol.
~Burn ONe~
Dewayne
Geter-D1
08-14-2007, 02:58 PM
i have to agree with fire power , i know i smoke like crazy , but , i never burnt around them , i stopped my kids best i could till they turned 18 , than its pretty much there decision
ivoryline13
08-15-2007, 12:14 AM
I know exactly how you feel man.
parents are crazy these days
freaking out about smoking pot.
making a mountain of an anthill
and doing random drug tests all the time
the only thing they need to be worried about it you getting caught
and if they allowed you to do it, it would be way harder for you to get caught
personally, I've never been drug tested by my parents or been caught by them or the law.
but plenty of my friends have.
if you can get a hold of some niacins, that's the way to go
if you wanna cheat, try putting a drop or two of bleach in your urine.
worked for 2 of my friends.
BSki8950
08-15-2007, 01:18 AM
yea another youngin
noodlemasterr88
08-15-2007, 01:42 AM
well, considering we all think marijuana should be legalized, i dont care if he's "young" or not, since we're all here for the same thing, lets just keep blazing.
everyone's right about the niacin though. not too sure about bleach, my friend did it once and his came out positive for coke
AlienBait
08-15-2007, 02:32 AM
well, considering we all think marijuana should be legalized, i dont care if he's "young" or not, since we're all here for the same thing, lets just keep blazing.
I have to disagree with you on that point. It should matter if he is young. Minors should not be doing drugs or drinking alcohol. Look how many die from drinking and driving!
When we say we want it legal, I'm sure the vast majority of people on here mean they want it legal for adults.
HempMan
10-05-2007, 01:29 AM
I have to disagree with you on that point. It should matter if he is young. Minors should not be doing drugs or drinking alcohol. Look how many die from drinking and driving!
When we say we want it legal, I'm sure the vast majority of people on here mean they want it legal for adults.
Good point AB!
Weed should be like cigs... Legal to anyone over 18.
Also, its less harmful to the body than alcohol.
Dubbaman
10-05-2007, 01:43 AM
i agree also to alot of points in this under 18 too young,agree, should be legal, duh, of course it should not just for medical but for all, the problem is in the regulation is places like the usa who gonna be the watchdog on it after all the tobacco companys do just walk into govt and take over the lead ( i know no politics but im using it as example) and the other problem is how in the heck would we set prices and then taxes on it i can see it though go in and buy Original Thai 200 pre rolled non filter class A fattys for 300 bucks now thats the place i wanna live in
screwdriver
10-05-2007, 02:09 AM
Nobody has mentioned anything about how young minds and bodies are still in the growth stage. I know I didn't follow my own advice, but give your body and mind a chance to mature without "drugs".
sensistar90
10-07-2007, 02:45 AM
Seems like the older people are being a little hypocritical. You smoke, but if you catch your kid smoking you punish him and make him stop. Just like parents like smoke 2 packs a day and wonder why their kid is smoking cigs. When you tell someone they can't do that because they're not old enough or even ** that marijuana is terrible and is illegal for a reason, what are you trying to do to your kid. Wouldn't you want him to be like you? Why not explain to him about marijuana. By being a parent and blazing you pretty much turned you kid into a pothead whether you wanted it or not. Weed is illegal, if your kid finds out you smoke, which they would, what would keep them from smoking? I think weed is a peaceful thing that can be used by anyone old enough to understand it. What's the difference between a 16 year old and an 18 year old really? It's illegal for both. What about a 16 year old and a 40 year old. Most older people haven't even been to college and there are people that are 16 years old in college classes.
shuggy4105
10-07-2007, 10:31 AM
experience,maturity, more wise.
choking_victim
10-07-2007, 10:46 AM
wow, good conversation and good points made.
I really think it's up to you to decide,
but I'm a firm believer that if you want to start smoking, wait until your life is stable.
that's the bad thing about kids smoking..especially smoking regs, which make you down-n-out, and lazy. Then they grow up being 'downed-n-out and lazy' (most of them)
Then you just have lazy people who smoke, and everyone points a finger at saying "that's what is going to happen to you" blah blah blah.
be responsible with it. It's a gift, so treat it as one.
What about a 16 year old and a 40 year old. Most older people haven't even been to college and there are people that are 16 years old in college classes.
I can list a multitude of things different than a 40 yr old. compared to a 16 yr. old.
Few 16 yr. olds. have discovered what "true regret" is. Having true regret makes you think about your actions more closely ahead of time. Also know more about the world and how it works as well as how control your actions and not be clouded by emotion or the pitfalls that a 30-40 yr. old has already experienced.
I toke yes, I am a parent, yes. Would I hand a 16 yr. old a 5th of johnny walker...hell no. Would I buy a 5th of maker's mark for a working collegue hell yes. I know the collegue has more of a head on there shoulders.
I would wait for my kid to "experience" it on his own. Then whn he did...we would have the "talk". About how it really is and what it means to be "descreet and safe" as possible about it. But I would not burn up with him until he was on his own and I could "honestly" view him as a man.
For me weed is my way of winding down at the end of the day. Not to roll outa bed get wasted, eat lunch burn a blunt, eat dinner take 20 bong rips and pass out.....much much more to life than that. Teenagers are not the poster people for "moderation"
choking_victim
10-07-2007, 01:16 PM
well said mutt.
I wish you were my dad..
haha, my dad came over to my house the other day. I was sleeping so he left some things for me and had seen some cookies I had made. He told me latter on he had spit them out in the trash after thinking I probably put weed or mus*r*oms in them.
..I told him I'll label the different strains of cookie next time.
..I told him I'll label the different strains of cookie next time.
:rofl: "cookie strains"
Stoney Bud
10-07-2007, 01:59 PM
As bad as I hate Insurance companies, I have to admit that they gather all the data necessary to make the comparison between people of different ages in terms of smoking pot or drinking booze.
The numbers of DEAD people per/thousand as a result of booze and/or pot are already documented.
This is an inescapable set of numbers.
When I was a youngster, I was on my own, and I mean living on my own at 13. I worked full time and also went to school full time and graduated from high school.
As a result of this, I was a great deal more mature than the young people my same age. I got in no trouble because I didn't have time and I sure couldn't afford to lose my job at a restaurant where most of my food came from and all my money.
It used to piss me off bad that I had to pay more for my car insurance than someone over 21. Now, I can look at WHY those numbers are still at the same ratio.
People IN GENERAL that are less than 21 drive more aggressively, don't have enough experience behind the wheel to have learned to drive defensively ALL THE TIME, and WAY more of them get hurt or killed in traffic accidents as a direct result of being drunk or high, then any other group of people by age.
This is fact, not guesses.
A single individual like who I was at that age, may be more mature than his friends, but as a group, things are what they are and it's shown clearly that younger people tend to not think things through as thoroughly as older people and as a result, get hurt or hurt things or others more often.
This is also a proven fact. Anyone who would ignore this would be a fool.
Young people, when you see one of your friends slammin doughnuts in a car in a parking lot with smoke pouring off their tires and THEN watch them go out on the highway doing the same crap, IT'S THEM that is driving your insurance rates over the top and causing older people to look at all young people in the same manner.
Tell them that they're acting like the "typical kid" that adults make fun of and set the rules by. They're hurting YOU, not me.
It's the same with pot, just like Mutt said.
One person here on this group was literally bragging one time about how they LOVE to get blasted and go for a drive. They actually said they thought they drive better that way. That person had just turned 18, so they said.
Adults aren't just picking on kids because adults have some weird mean streak and just like to screw with young people.
Most rules are set on averages. If the average for young people to get into drug or booze related deaths and damage is SO FAR ABOVE that of older people, then you have to look at WHY those averages are so high.
It's because younger people CAUSE MORE DEATH AND DESTRUCTION in vehicles than older people. Uh duh!
Do I want some 16 year old who has three weeks experience behind the wheel of a car getting high and also driving? HELL NO.
Any young person who gets insulted by being treated in this manner needs to thank their friends next time they see them getting stupid in a car.
As for how people act when they're high, it's an easy one to see. Go to your local mall on a Friday or Saturday night and watch the behavior of the different ages. If you get high, then you know how to tell if someone else is high. Watch them. Watch how they act.
The high young people will be acting like idiots in general. Acting like they don't know how to handle the high. Getting ignorant and making a lot of noise.
Anyone can go do this experiment.
As an older person, I get tired of young people trying to blow off the blame for the actions of their own age group.
If you are a young person and you act mature and don't cause problems or harm to others, then you are the exception to the rule. The stats don't lie. How can you fake a car full of dead young people who are all drunk and high?
Yes, older people do this too. Just not as many per/thousand. As I said, the stats simply don't lie.
If you want to be treated as an equal with an older person, then make those stats drop. Make those OTHER young people stop hurting your chances to be respected as a mature person.
Don't blame older people for the actions of people who are young and acting stupid.
<Stoney climbs back down off his soap box now>
HippyInEngland
10-07-2007, 02:20 PM
Deep sigh at the above
we live, we enjoy we die
stomping on others is not what this thread is about
Stoney Bud
10-07-2007, 02:48 PM
Deep sigh at the above
we live, we enjoy we die
stomping on others is not what this thread is about
Since you haven't quoted anyone and refer to only "the above", it's impossible to tell who it is you're referring to.
Who are you saying is stomping on who?
clever_intuition
10-07-2007, 03:00 PM
I smell aggression starting. Simply stated if you are to young to make your own decisions then you should stray away from those that are responsible for making the decisions for you as they will get in trouble if caught (meaning, take your grown outside some where far away from your parents house. If you are going to be doing this). I am not condoning this in any way but people will do what they want to.
Other wise wait until you have your own place to grow and are legaly allowed to make decisions for your self.:cool:
Stoney Bud
10-07-2007, 03:06 PM
Other wise wait until you have your own place to grow and are legaly allowed to make decisions for your self.:cool:
AND not cause any harm to anyone but yourself if you do screw up.
AND don't cost anyone else to clean up any mess you create as a result of your own actions.
No aggression here man. Just the facts. Lots of young people try the blame game on older people. I'm just putting in my 2 cents....Well, maybe a nickle. :)
clever_intuition
10-07-2007, 03:10 PM
Its good man. I saw where you were coming from;)
HempMan
10-07-2007, 06:15 PM
My kids don't even know I smoke or grow MJ...
I got a teenage daughter that's always ridin' by butt about cigarettes anyway. She hates 'em.
She's also bought into all that D.A.R.E. crap they're indoctrinating them with in school now, so I gotta keep EVERYTHING on the DL when she's over here... She'd be the first one to open her mouth if she ever found out.
:hitchair: They're teaching our kids to be snitches! :hitchair:
I even have to lock the door to the computer room just to come in here & the other forums I frequent... Then cover my tracks before I let her get online.
Sucks, really... But what can we do against the machine? :**:
EDIT... Ok, this is funny... One of your own smilies is a banned word... :holysheep: :eek: (The one waving the little flag with the B and the S on it.) :rolleyes: :p
Don't even get me into my feelings on DARE. :angrywife:
I'll post a 2 page rant. :eek:
Don't even get me into my feelings on DARE. :angrywife:
I'll post a 2 page rant. :eek:
I double DOG dare you you start a rant on D.A.R.E :p
HempMan
10-07-2007, 07:12 PM
I double DOG dare you you start a rant on D.A.R.E :p
LOL... I'll second that motion! :p
:D
clever_intuition
10-07-2007, 08:25 PM
I think that would be leading into politics and law........Not a good discussion to delve into on this site.
Firepower
10-07-2007, 11:17 PM
Ok my insight on this, as a 16 year old i did everything my parents told me not to do just because of that.... so lets get into this young thing, age 18 has become the world standard on what makes a kid into a young adult, now why is that? just like MUTT said "experience" at this point in life you are given serious responsabilities in one way or another because by now you should have experienced some mistakes, regrets, shame, dissollusion and so on, the things that are part of any adult lifes today, at this point you literally make your future as everyday goes on.
My son is 9 years old, but i can guarantee that before he is 16 he knows about drugs and the effects caused by it and i will not tell him it is forbidden but will give him plenty of insights on why he should make the right decision when the time comes. as a father i thought my son more of how things work and how they could hurt you instead of NO, DONT EVER DO THAT", ill explain further, within the next year i will take my son to a gun range and show him what a gun is, what it can do and definitely gun handling and safety, i will let him shoot it if likes, now the reason behind this, he sees guns on tv all day as a form of entertainment and amusement, if my son was ever found in a situation where another kid has a gun he can properly know what to do instead of wonder how cool it would be to play with it... Given that in mind, i think due to todays way of life telling your kid no isnt cutting it anymore, we need to resort more on teaching them the knowledge that would make them make the right decisions, when you think about it PEER PRESSURE is a B ***** H and their friends can be very persuasive nowaday. well i ranted enufff .. lol:ignore:
Stoney Bud
10-07-2007, 11:30 PM
todays way of life telling your kid no isnt cutting it anymore, we need to resort more on teaching them the knowledge that would make them make the right decisions...
It sounds to me like your son has a Father who takes very good care of him.
In different societies throughout time, many households were governed by parents who think much like you do, Firepower.
Literature abounds with examples of this type of thinking. The success rate of your type of teaching is the highest of all methods.
Teaching the *reason* for things has always been much more effective than "laying down the law" as an Authoritarian.
My opinion won't add to your life, but you are doing a hell of a good job by teaching your son instead of making him learn by rote.
Congrats to you!
HempMan
10-07-2007, 11:42 PM
As a kid, I would have hated Stoney's point of view...
I went out & smoked with my friends... Drove stoned, or drunk, or both... Acted like a complete idiot & thought it was cool...
Every time my parents opened their mouths, I was like :ignore:
I was young... stupid... and indestructible... We've all been there...
Sometimes, I wonder how I survived it all.
BUT now... As a "40 something" parent myself... I know exactly where he's coming from...
I see these youngsters all the time acting like total fools & I wouldn't want to be their parents... Waiting for that "bad news" phone call @ 2:00 am telling me to go to the jail, hospital... Or the morgue.
Your perspective changes as you get older.
I think that would be leading into politics and law........Not a good discussion to delve into on this site.
I think bash'n D.A.R.E. is ok here if one goes about it that right way:)
I think bash'n D.A.R.E. is ok here if one goes about it that right way:)
What D.A.R.E. means to me....:p
We are in a "War" on drugs....so in essence all of LEO is military by default...they are after all the soldiers for the other side.
Quote:
The military use of children takes three distinct forms: children (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child) can take direct part in hostilities (child soldiers), or they can be used in support roles such as porters, spies, messengers, look outs, and edit; or they can be used for political advantage either as human shields (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shield) or in propaganda.
Quote:
The military use of children takes three distinct forms: children (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child) can take direct part in hostilities (child soldiers), or they can be used in support roles such as porters, spies, messengers, look outs, and edit; or they can be used for political advantage either as human shields (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shield) or in propaganda.
bout sum's it up indeed..... This program does nothing cept tear family's apart and cost the tax payer's huge amounts of $$$$$
they are pretty much a cult of sorts and should be delt with as such IMHO
They don't teach the kids what happens after mom and dad go off to jail for there 3-4 plant closet grow they use for them selfs for 15 years when they turn them in...
and this is alowed in our public schools? WOW
madness
Il Stugots
10-18-2007, 06:25 AM
wow i didnt know dare was that bad teaching kids to snitch. ive always seen it wen i was in high school but never really paid attention to it
It's brainwashing. I agree drug educaton is important. but teach the truth...not lies.
It should not be used to recruit young LEO informants.
Stoney Bud
10-18-2007, 10:10 PM
wow i didnt know dare was that bad teaching kids to snitch. ive always seen it wen i was in high school but never really paid attention to it
It is a shame, isn't it?
Hey kids, inform the police about your parents. Hey parents, we have your kids watching you for us!
What a world...
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