Photobucket and Imageshack

[Mutt]

Ok I see many thinks its ok to upload your photos there and post here.
Well I'm am going to SHOW you ALL why we do not allow photobucket or imageshack to host your MJ pics. If you "think" its safe your wrong. Uploading the images here means the pictures are stored in amsterdam. Part of the jobs of us mods is to watch your guys back and try to make you posting here as safe as possible. The rules we have many are for that reason alone. SAFETY 1ST.


Photobucket terms of service:
(notice the underlined sentences)
Photobucket reserves the right at all times to disclose, in its sole discretion, any Content as necessary to (a) satisfy any law, regulation, or governmental request or (b) reduce or prevent what Photobucket considers to be, in its sole discretion, a serious or imminent threat to your health or safety, or the health or safety of another. For information regarding Photobucket's handling of your personally identifiable information, refer to the Photobucket Privacy Policy.

Privacy policy:
Photobucket.com may disclose specific contact information when we determine that such disclosure is necessary to comply with law, to cooperate with or seek assistance from law enforcement or to protect the interests or safety of Photobucket.com or other visitors to the site or users of the Services. Also, your contact information may be passed on to a third party in the event of a merger, acquisition, consolidation, divestiture, or a bankruptcy of Photobucket.com.

Photobucket location:
Colorado, United States.
So it is bound to United States Law.

ImageShack privacy policy:
TrafficZ may disclose this personal information if required to do so by law or upon a good-faith belief that such action is necessary to conform to the edicts of the law.

Location Cali, US
yes they have legal med MJ but if you don't have a card your screwed.

So to sum it up...do you trust anyone with incriminating pictures that will outwardly say they will cooperate with US law enforcement? Not me I will tell you that.

[headband]

just post this and explain where the little text is. Thanks to you I found it but if it were in bold or something different, I would found it clicked it cus i rather do that and upload off my computer than go to another site and do the same thing and then have to copy and plaste a bunch of text a few times. reds a good color! Im sure this would help a few of us stoners out who didnt notice the small "valid extensions" box untill someone told us, it will save you the time i think.

[Megatron]

+1 for MAC

[TURKEYNECK]

I use photobucket to resize then delete..is that bad?

[Megatron]

Once it hits the world wide web... It never gets deleted.. Just like txts..

[Rogue]

I use photobucket to resize then delete..is that bad?

Yes.

try here for a free program

hxxp://www.download.com/3120-20_4-0.html?qt=image+editing+software&licenseType=49&tag=dir.li

[KGB30]

Thanks Mutt!!

[DarkMousey]

what can i use to host my pics

[Runbyhemp]

Hey 'mousey, you can post your pictures here on the site. TBG started a thread on how to resize and post your pics here (http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20979&highlight=pictures)
Hope this helps.

[DarkMousey]

i figured that out earlier

[asyouarei]

what happens to all the underage drinkers that post pictures with a beer bottlein their hand?? interesting...

[MercyEternity]

That is if there are incriminating pictures that may cause people harm. YouTube does not even disclose information. Honestly you have to be caught in the act. Photobucket and Imageshack does not keep a list of IP addresses. You can also login with a fake name which they expect you to do. LOL

[MercyEternity]

Photos are so difficult to use for evidence especially when posted online because they are easily manipulated and photoshopped without much detection. Unless they go through your computer in your possession which they have records of the sale and you purchasing it, then they find the original photos downloaded from the digital camera that they can prove was not manipulated in any way then it is nothing. The only thing they will ever go through your computer for to see what you have is if you are logging into child pornography rings which is unacceptable regardless, if you committed a murder and you have inquiries for disposing of bodies, chemicals, anything involved in that act in your cache, and if you are purchasing items with your credit card that were involved in a serious crime.

[Hick]

That is if there are incriminating pictures that may cause people harm. YouTube does not even disclose information. Honestly you have to be caught in the act. Photobucket and Imageshack does not keep a list of IP addresses. You can also login with a fake name which they expect you to do. LOL
You are "SOOO" wrong....
I think the first post pretty much cums up and indicates ttheir "Privacy" po,icies.
another little morsel of information that you obviosly aren't aware of,... though 'text' may be protected by our first amendment, pictures and photos are not.
In addition, linking from those site to MP, leaves MP's url on their sites server. Leading to uneccessary inherant risk of bringing undesirable surveilance of the entire membership.
At ANY rate, this is a moot point, and not a negotiable or argueable issue, as far as we are concerned.
If you don't wish to use MP's host, don't post your pictures here. :D


Privacy Falls into YouTube’s Data Tar Pit (http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2008/07/04/privacy-falls-into-youtubes-data-tar-pit.html)

According to a discovery order released Wednesday (http://wendy.seltzer.org/media/viacom_youtube_discovery_080702.pdf), Viacom asked for discovery of YouTube source code and of logs of YouTube video viewership; Google refused both. The dispute came before Judge Stanton, in the Southern District of New York, who ordered the video viewing records — but not the source code — disclosed......


But the user privacy concerns proved harder to evaluate. Viacom asked for “all data from the Logging database concerning each time a YouTube video has been viewd on the YouTube website or through embedding on a third-party website,” including users’ viewed videos, login IDs, and IP addresses. Google contended it should not be forced to release these records because of users’ privacy concerns, which the court rejected.
The court erred both in its assessment of the personally identifying nature of these records, and the scope of the harm. It makes no sense to discuss whether an IP address is or is not “personally identifying” without considering the context with which it is connected. It may not be a name, but is often one search step from it. Moreover, even “anonymized” records often provide sufficiently deep profiles that they can be traced back to individuals, as researchers armed with the AOL (http://w2.eff.org/Privacy/AOL/) and Netflix (http://arxivblog.com/?p=142) data releases showed.
hxxp://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2008/07/04/privacy-falls-into-youtubes-data-tar-pit.html

Dismissing privacy concerns, a federal judge overseeing a $1 billion copyright-infringement lawsuit against YouTube has ordered the popular online video-sharing service to disclose who watches which video clips and when/
The database includes information on when each video gets played, which can be used to determine how often a clip is viewed. Attached to each entry is each viewer’s unique login ID and the Internet Protocol, or IP, address for that viewer’s computer
hxxp://vlogz.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/youtube-to-disclose-user-information/

A billion-dollar court clash between old- and new-media giants took on unexpected privacy ramifications after a judge ordered YouTube to hand over the log-on names and Internet addresses of every person who has viewed material on the Internet's top video site, an order encompassing tens of millions of people. hxxp://www.statesman.com/business/content/business/stories/technology/07/04/0704youtube.html

[MercyEternity]

Why are you trying to hold the pictures? They belong to the people who have them. Also people can load pictures that they do not take on to photobucket or imageshack. Youtube agreed that they would not disclose that information. Do some more research. Also people use fake names and e-mails for Youtube too or ones that they ditch. In this age of wireless connection I can use a host that is a few blocks away if I want to and then where do you get with an IP address? The internet has never been a good ground for evidence. The only thing they can truly rely on is confession.

[MercyEternity]

These people who went after Youtube want their copyrights to be lawful because people infringe on them by posting copyrighted videos. Then if their videos are watched by millions of people instead of the company making millions of dollars on the sale of the video - yes they have every right to know who is posting their video. Other than that YouTube is not going to disclose billions of people's identities nor does anybody have the right to see unless they have a warrant which is almost unattainable unless the copyright infringement can be proven. You really need to read everything and starting a paragraph with "YOU ARE WRONG" is very childish. Also these photos belong to these people but if you want to keep my compost tea brewery pic then more power to you.

[Hick]

..as fast as you posted your reply.. you "obviosly" didn't read the links.
youtube was "ordered" to turn that information over to viacom.. and they DID...
I was able to find nothing saying any different.

[MercyEternity]

Viacom is the company who filed the lawsuit for the copyright infringement. YouTube turned it over to avoid a huge and I mean HUGE settlement. That was very smart to do and also proper. How would you feel if somebody took something you created and posted it everywhere without you receiving the proper credit or due for what it cost to make? That is not fair to Viacom but it is not really the fault of YouTube because they cannot monitor billions of people for a free service. Still now Viacom knows who they can go after but I doubt they will be able to contact any of those people. They probably got a list of bogus IP addresses and names. It's actually kind of funny because that is the internet.

I understand that people are worried and get paranoid. Sometimes you really do have to sort it out before going off the deep end. I know that is much easier said then done but it is food for thought.

[Hick]

At ANY rate, this is a moot point, and not a negotiable or argueable issue, as far as we are concerned.
If you don't wish to use MP's host, don't post your pictures here.
this is MarP's house. He and the staff set the policies. They are in place because we want to keep our membership a clean and safe place to congregate and share... Like 'em or not... :) they aren't changing.
subject closed

[MercyEternity]

Well you can think whatever you want but I do not feel comfortable giving photos to somebody I do not know because most likely they will manipulate the situation. That is why there is a photobucket and an imageshack so each person can keep track of what belongs to them anonymously. It's actually safer to store photos on one of their sites than a personal computer and uses less memory. That is why they are there. As far as "MarP" is concerned, I have not seen he or she on here so if that is the person who runs this site then they are the ones that run it. There is nothing on the agreement that people accept upon membership about you holding onto personal photos. This is what it says and it is a request not a demand.

"7. Please try to post all of your pictures on this site. Linking to other sites has inherent risks involved that should be kept to a minimum if at all possible. We have both a Gallery and the ability to post as many as eight pictures with each post you make. Please post your pictures here, instead of linking to them."

It is very suspicious for you to want to hold onto personal photos and it really is very unappealing in general for a user not to be able to have control over what belongs to them. There are more inherent risks for a person to entrust their personal photos with somebody else than to be able to present them at will. The pictures belong to the members. At least online galleries provide the members with anonymity and flexibility with embedding codes. Members cannot delete their photos once you store them and it is almost as if you believe they belong to you which they obviously do not.

[THE BROTHER'S GRUNT]

ME just let it go because nothing is gonna change. Photobucket and Imageshack will not be used on this site period. As far as MP goes he is on here everyday so i don't know what your talking about. If you have a problem send him a PM i'm sure he respond. ;)

[MercyEternity]

He or she does respond and they said they cannot control everything that you do. In other words I take it they do not care anymore because it is now out of control. You are right nothing will change because it clearly says "Please". That is a request and not a demand. If I had known it was going to be like this then I would not have joined. Unfortunately I felt as though it would be fine because I wanted to talk to some cool people around the world. If I cannot trust this site then there is no point. Where is the delete account option anyways? If you guys and gals enjoy keeping everyone's photos then you can take responsibility for them as well.

[MercyEternity]

If MarP was on here everyday they would not be happy. I seriously doubt this is what they wanted and what they intended. If I find it so unappealing at this point then I can imagine how they feel.

[THE BROTHER'S GRUNT]

Dude you are talking straight up nonsense. You send PMs to members on this site saying is sucked yet you still hung around. :confused2: IMHO you were here for one thing and that's to start trouble. You don't wanna be a member here fine i'll take care of it. :ciao: I'll BAN ya for the time being until MP gets on then he can delete your account. ;) He or she does respond and they said they cannot control everything that you do. In other words I take it they do not care anymore because it is now out of control. You are right nothing will change because it clearly says "Please". That is a request and not a demand. If I had known it was going to be like this then I would not have joined. Unfortunately I felt as though it would be fine because I wanted to talk to some cool people around the world. If I cannot trust this site then there is no point. Where is the delete account option anyways? If you guys and gals enjoy keeping everyone's photos then you can take responsibility for them as well.

[THE BROTHER'S GRUNT]

Dude are you on freaking crack or just sniffing to much paint. MP is on here everday and is very pleased with the site. I'm glad you can speak for him. :aok: I find it very funny you seemed to be the only one complaining. Anywho you don't have to worry about it as you are no longer with us. :ciao: If MarP was on here everyday they would not be happy. I seriously doubt this is what they wanted and what they intended. If I find it so unappealing at this point then I can imagine how they feel.

[SmokinMom]

:spit:

I needed a good laugh this morning, thanks. :)

Please know whenever and wherever you post pics online, they don't just belong to you anymore. Anyone can take them and even claim them as their own. :p

MP prefers the pics be uploaded to the gallery here. It's safer for the group, and most importantly safer for you. It's not hard to understand this. :rolleyes: