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xtreme888
04-03-2008, 08:56 AM
First i like to say Thanks all of you guys on this forum. I've learn alot by spending alot of time reading and getting educated on this wonderful world of green. This is my first grow. I just got a rubbermaid closet, covered with tin foil, running 6 23w cfl's and a 6" exhast fan. I got these seeds from a bag that I bought(I don;t know what kind) and decide to start a grow. It's been growing since Jan 21/08 and decided to flower it now. they're about 25 inches from the soil. I was using 20-20-20 for veg stage. Now I picked up this. Is this any good? Dutch Nutrient Formula(DNF)It's a two part formula promotes plant fruiting and flowering.Please let me know if I am doing anything wrong. Any Idea of what strain is this? I'll post some pics to show what I have. Once again Thank you.......

xtreme888
04-04-2008, 01:06 AM
Any opinons?

tankdogster
04-04-2008, 03:31 AM
I'm just doing my first grow too. I can't tell you about the nutrient but I read that you should us Mylar or anything bright white before the foil. I like the Rubbermaid closet idea. Your grow looks good under the CF's but I bet we hear from others that you should use HPS light. I like the colors you got going. Good luck and keep it [COLOR=SeaGreen]GREEN
:watchplant::watchplant:

xtreme888
04-04-2008, 03:38 AM
Thanks, I agree with you alot of people say use hps but it was cheap using cfls.

lyfr
04-04-2008, 03:42 AM
howdy888, yes,dump the foil and paint it flat white or get mylar.that plants a beauty! yes,HPS would be much better for sure but ive heard people get good results with cfl's too. i'll let one of those guys help on that. lookn good...gl

smokybear
04-04-2008, 03:48 AM
Hi there xtreme. First of all, welcome to MP. Good to have you here. It definitely looks like you read over the site pretty well. Great work on the babies you have there. They look fantastic under those cfls. I would get rid of the tin foil. Flat white paint would be better than tin foil. Mylar is the best though. You can pick it up reasonably cheap online. It will be listed as an insulation or craft item. It will be easy to find. As for your lights, it will work for flower but an hps system would increase your results exponentially. Much much better than cfls. A 400 watt system would run you about 100 dollars so you may want to think about it. Looks great though. Nice work once again. Keep us posted on your progress. Take care and be safe.

Joseph James
04-04-2008, 05:11 AM
I suggest a 400 to 600 watt sodium set up with = exhaust for your babies there man.

Peace!

xtreme888
04-04-2008, 07:33 AM
I tried with the flat white paint but some reason the rubbermaid closet won't let lt stick. I tried couple coats and still won't work. it rejects the paint so I gave up and went to the easiest thing tin foil.

Joseph James
04-04-2008, 07:38 AM
If that won't work...try mylar man...that should def. work! :eek:

xtreme888
04-04-2008, 07:55 AM
Yeah, I will try to get and put it up after this grow. Thank you all for the response.
How about this nutrient that I bought, the hydro store said it was ok to use for soil.

massproducer
04-04-2008, 03:05 PM
I can not really comment on the DNF, as i have not used those nutes before, but as everyone said, you need to get rid of that tin foil, because it will create hot spots in your grow room that will overheat part of your garden.

Also it looks like you have a very sativa plant going there, based on the long skinny leaves. The one thing i would say though is that your plant looks underfed. Also CFLs do not have very strong penetration into the garden, so based on your set up, you may want to take off the bottom 1/3 of your plant as the buds that grow here with cfl's are not even going to really be smokable. It would be better to let the plant focus all of its energy on production in the area's that are well lit.

Overall excellent job, keep up the good work

xtreme888
04-06-2008, 06:46 AM
When is it a good time to feed it and how much? Right now, It's in flowering stage. After the 12 hr. dark stage I usually put 500 ml of solution in that bucket. It's mixed with 5ml of each DNF into 2L of water. Should I put more? How can I get it to thicken up before it start to bud?

trillions of atoms
04-06-2008, 07:49 AM
Scouring the surface with sandpaper should do it, but I love mylar so Id go that route.

isthatjohnstamos
04-06-2008, 06:17 PM
you room looks a little big for just 6 cfl's, that would be around 9,000 lumens. I grow using cfl's and i doubled mine light from my last flower and the buds are denser and fatter. so i think your a little under powered in the light department especially for the flower stage. If i were you i would add about 6 more, but what size is your grow room? also get those lights closer to the tops with cfl's you only need to be like 2 inches from the tops of the plants.

The Hemp Goddess
04-07-2008, 04:14 PM
Use the Krylon paint made for plastic--it should stick. Make sure that the cabinet is clean, prime first (with the krylon plastic paint), then paint with flat white.

When you are considering your lighting, remember that that is the single biggest factor in the size of your finished plants. Your yield from cfls will be SUBSTANTIALLY less than if you are using HPS to flower.

xtreme888
04-09-2008, 10:03 AM
It seem the closet is not wide enough cause some of the branches are pushed on the side. It's 29'L x 70'H x 15'D. It probably won't fit 6 more cfl's. The 4 outer cfl's are already touching the walls.
After flowering, I definity going to rip down the foil and get a electic sander and scor the walls of the cabinet and paint flat white. Do I need to do anything else with it?
What kind of setup would be ok for 2 or 3 plants cause it seem like the closet I have barely hold this one? Any ideas? or modification?

Timmyjg6
04-09-2008, 03:16 PM
No man if its plastic get that krylon paint.. It works..

xtreme888
04-12-2008, 07:06 AM
Well, This what she looks like after 8 days, she kinda clutter up in there, but what can you do.....just let her be.

The Hemp Goddess
04-12-2008, 05:55 PM
I tried with the flat white paint but some reason the rubbermaid closet won't let lt stick. I tried couple coats and still won't work. it rejects the paint so I gave up and went to the easiest thing tin foil.

Tin foil is bad to use. Try the Krylon paint for plastic and paint flat white. Be sure to prime with the same paint for plastics.

CFLs will do good through vegging, but if you want any weight on those buds, you are going to have to go with a HPS.

xtreme888
04-22-2008, 04:11 AM
It's been 10 days now after the last post and this is what she look like. Not bad for a first grow with cfl lights. After the harvest, I will rip off the tin foil and paint it flat white. Overall, I'm still happy to see how this baby grew up to be a nice plant. What do you guys think?

brushybill
04-23-2008, 12:42 AM
:smoke1: hey xtreme, thats a great looking plant you got there. you should be happy. just imagine what your next grow will be like:

xtreme888
04-23-2008, 06:09 AM
Thanks alot, I though to put a 400 hps light but it seems that the closet won't be big enough for it and also it would cost me about $345(I think) at the hyro store. I would like to try it cause many prople said it would give me bigger buds but it too expensive for me. Lets finish her with the cfls and see how big the buds will get. I keep you guys posted.........Once again thanks

xtreme888
05-03-2008, 07:54 AM
What do you think, is it time to harvest? It been flowering for 4 weeks and it looks and smell great. The buds are not a bad size on top but the middle ones are like your thumb size.Should I just cut the top ones off and let the middle ones grow for another week or two?
Here's some pics................

smokybear
05-03-2008, 08:16 AM
Nope. Not time to harvest yet my friend. They need at least another 4 weeks of flowering. You should harvest according to the color of the trichromes. Search around the forums on harvesting and you will find all the information that you will need. Like I said, another 4 weeks or so and they will be ready. If you harvest now, you will lose probably half of your yield and potency. Just my thoughts. Keep us posted. Take care and be safe.

Crazy Horse
05-03-2008, 08:26 AM
Get a 30x microscope to look at the trichromes, they will tell u when she's finished. U can get them at grow shops or Radio Shacks and sorts (they are really cheap)

xtreme888
05-03-2008, 08:36 AM
Hey smoky, they didn't refund the hps so I guess I have to keep it.S**T Man,I seen some of them on fleebay for $100 like u said. That really made me mad what a rip off that hydro store......I know it will be great for flowering better than my cfl but it's the money thing that gets to me........
Thanks guys. I'll keep you posted It's just it look so temping not to harvest yet. I just have to remember to just water it without any nuts the last two weeks. Once again Thanks!

smokybear
05-03-2008, 09:03 AM
Patience is one of the hardest things when it comes to growing mj. 4 more weeks and you will be thanking us my friend. Keep us posted. Take care and be safe.

xtreme888
05-07-2008, 08:37 AM
Hello once again. I went out and bought me a 60x/100x microscope from the souce for $10. All I can say thanks to you guys for helping me out on my first grow.:clap: I could belive the trichromes on these buds they kinda turning a little amber but not much it's still kinda clear white but it's mixed, I guess. I'm still feeding with nutes, should I switch it to plain water now? Once again Thanks...........

THE BROTHER'S GRUNT
05-07-2008, 08:51 AM
Whats up mang. The ladies are looking great. From the looks of things they still have some growing left. I would keep doing what ya been doing. I wouldn't start feeding them plain water until about 2 weeks before harvest but that's just me. Your doing a great job keep it up. ;)



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