Anyways, i am using Fox Farms Ocean Forest soil, and i have the 3 part Fox Farms Nutrients, Grow Big, tiger bloom, big bloom.... And i was about to take a trip to the hydro store today and i was just going to get open saseme, cha ching, and beastie bloom. But not sure if i should still stay with FF. Some people also told me not to use Tiger bloom.... So i need some sagest ion's on whats going to help me produce some good nugs... Thanks guys...
snuggles
04-09-2008, 02:36 PM
I see no problem with the three flower enhancers or tiger bloom. FF is fine, if you have the food just get the 3 supplements for flowers.
I use FF but it's about 3rd on my list behind House and Garden nutes, then Botanicare, then FF. FF is a bit strong but other than that I like it OK.
Were you given a reason why Tiger Bloom is bad? Lots of people just like to talk....even if they don't know what they are talking about. I've had zero problems with it.
Timmyjg6
04-09-2008, 02:40 PM
They just say its not organic and i have also heard that its just personal preference... What can i buy to make the trics go crazy, can i add anything else to the batch? Other than the 6 part FF
Timmyjg6
04-09-2008, 02:45 PM
And also i have bin thinking about Pest control.. I have no sighs of pests/bugs but wanted to kinda buy something to just prevent it before it happened. Is there a good spray or something i could use every now and thin to protect my plants..?
lyfr
04-09-2008, 04:17 PM
hi timmy, if it aint broke,dont fix it.no reason to spray a bunch of crap to "prevent". just keep ur area clean, and dont go near em after hiking through the woods or rollin in the grass. i bomb in between grows, thats all. and be careful not to create a toxic soup wit too many additives. DO inspect leaves wit a mag. glass every coupl days and if u do get bugs you get them before they "infest"
Timmyjg6
04-09-2008, 04:24 PM
Thanks bro... Will do.
bombbudpuffa
04-09-2008, 07:26 PM
If you're using the fox farm line Tiger Bloom is essential, Big Bloom is an additive. All three, Grow Big, Big Bloom and Tiger Bloom, are semi organic. If you were to go without one of the three it should be Big Bloom not Tiger Bloom. Good luck.
Brouli
04-09-2008, 08:41 PM
i agree FF is the SH. but I always use the 3 part cha ching, beasti,open s. with basics and for flavor add Flora Nectar from GH i will love the effect :)
Timmyjg6
04-09-2008, 08:41 PM
I was not planing on just not using a flower neuts, just asking to see what i should use instead?
Timmyjg6
04-09-2008, 08:42 PM
Thanks, i will try that!
snuggles
04-09-2008, 10:06 PM
I was not planing on just not using a flower neuts, just asking to see what i should use instead?
OK with the 3 part FF flower additives be careful. First things first, if you are in soil only give them those supplements every other watering, it's not on the label but is on the feeding schedule. You will kill them real quick if you push it. OK FF is not organic so the original poster who told you not to use it is correct, but none of FF is 100% organic, Earth Juice and Botanicare are the closest you'll get in a prepackaged deal...I'm sure there are other nutes but not that I know of off the top of my head.
OK if you are skipping on flower nutes, don't expect much bud, at least not a ton. If you want to go organic, get some Bat Guano, preferably with some high P-K numbers, Sunleaves sells it and an $8 bag will last you a while. Another thing you could try is Molasses, it's cheap and IMO it works. I might take some heat for it but I do know it works cause I tried it. Good luck and let us know if you need more help.
The Effen Gee
04-09-2008, 10:25 PM
I would recommend the beastie blooms though, I am using them on this current grow and so far am satisfied with the results.
It's like a powder shot of P and K that you can add to water like kool-aid mix, easy to administer and meter.
Molasses is often the "Secret Ingredient" in a whole lot of plant food. It helps the plant fight mold, pests and disease and it also is a microbial food for increased flavor.
I use brown sugar to get the molasses and the sugar increased bud growth.
I would use molasses and either corn syrup or raw sugarcane pulp...I just don't want ant's.
snuggles
04-10-2008, 01:31 AM
I would recommend the beastie blooms though, I am using them on this current grow and so far am satisfied with the results.
It's like a powder shot of P and K that you can add to water like kool-aid mix, easy to administer and meter.
Molasses is often the "Secret Ingredient" in a whole lot of plant food. It helps the plant fight mold, pests and disease and it also is a microbial food for increased flavor.
I use brown sugar to get the molasses and the sugar increased bud growth.
I would use molasses and either corn syrup or raw sugarcane pulp...I just don't want ant's.
Smart man, and the other thing is if you are hydro NO MOLASSES. I also use the 3 part on some of my plants, I like it just go easy....it's potent and shouldn't be underestimated, nothing that isn't 100% organic has a chance to burn plantseasier than organics. Al;so with that $8 Guano you have flower nutes....100% organic.
Richy-B
04-10-2008, 06:35 PM
Botanicare liquid nutes for my suggestion. I also use Plant Success granular, it's a Premium Mycorrhizae. Which is a root enhancer. Mix it with the soil or put under it under a cutting, or use when transplanting. I also use Sub Culture, Which is a Specialty Nutrient & Root Inoculant. It basically contains living micro-organisms that break down the organic nutrients, enabling those big roots to eat/drink alot easier and faster. My grow store swears by these two products, I do too! I could tell a big difference in just a matter of a day or two with the use of the micro-organisms on my first grow! I'll never grow without it!
bombbudpuffa
04-11-2008, 03:39 PM
if you are in soil only give them those supplements every other wateringI'm using FF in soil with Awesome Blossoms as an additive in soil. I feed every watering. I find if you don't you will start having a phospho def before the flower cycle is up(purpling of the stems). I've never burned a plant with the FF line(Grow Big and Tiger Bloom).
snuggles
04-11-2008, 03:57 PM
Molasses is often the "Secret Ingredient" in a whole lot of plant food. It helps the plant fight mold, pests and disease and it also is a microbial food for increased flavor.
I use brown sugar to get the molasses and the sugar increased bud growth.
I would use molasses and either corn syrup or raw sugarcane pulp...I just don't want ant's.
Also molasses, GH Nectar, and Botanicare's Sweet or anything with high sugar will also tighten node space.
I made a mistake with the bat guano too, sorry but guano is not high in K although they do make Guanos more suitable for flower, they have P. Sorry I was out there or something when I wrote it. My favorite for sugars is Molasses, it's cheap. I also like the Nectar cause it's got a bit of everything. The Sweet isn't bad but it's overpriced and I would save my money...don't get me wrong I love Botanicare's nutes I just don't think people really need to pay that much for sugar cane.
