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Smoker777
05-04-2008, 11:03 AM
I have 7 plants in the 2 square feet floor and 2 feet in the height cupboard, those plants are currently on the vegetative stage but right now are only at like 3 inches with four leaves on the top with two small tiny growing leaves in the middle of four leaves. The two of four leaves are seems mixed yellow and green, but other rest of each plants are pretty green. The light I am using right now is a 20 watts spiral flourscent bulb with the foil papers on the walls, the light are like 2-4 inches close to the top of the plants, but some of the plants might be too far from the light due to the bulb size, also I watering them fairly light every two days.

Before I am going to bring what my problem is, I want to know if any of above that I explained sounds okay? Isn't the height too short? If so, then I can try to remove the ceiling of that cupboard and add other 2 and half feet height from another cupboard at the top of that cupboard where the plants are sitting at.

Now, the problem is that the light. I have been researching alot of things about the lighting for the plants, I have been having hard time to understand what they are saying because they seems too big descriptive, so I decide to go to the Home Depot and ask a worker if he know the better light for the plants indoor, I have been there for 2 hours and working so hard to find which was the right one, the worker even don't know what he is doing so I have to ask everything like how many lumens does it have, how much temperature will it produce, many things I have been asking as best as I can, and finally I decide to buy a mercury vapor and then I brought it to home, thus found out that it is not plug in lamp, it's a ceiling lamp which made me feel so disappoiment, but I am still not sure if the mercury vapor is right one. Also it was surprisely expensive costed me $50 dollars for that mercury lamp. I was looking for the lamp that can do the work for both vegetative and flowering stages, I wonder if two 2 feet flourscent light tubes with the hanging can do enough for that small space? Also I have been checking the temperature, it have been always at 71 with that little 20 watts spiral flourscent lamp, was it okay? I just know that it does need more lights, but the temperature seems doing okay, also when I was at the Home Depot, I read one of floursecent light tube's specs which said that it doesn't produce any temperature which confused me.

Sorry if I post a big post, but I was just make sure it was descriptive as best as I can, also I would be very appericately for your helps. I don't really have enough time to read many of threads around here, also I am new here :)

Hope something will help those plants into a happy healthy plants.

thc is good for me
05-04-2008, 11:12 AM
Plants need lots of light to grow a 20 watt cfl isnt enough light and mecury vaper lamps are a bad choice its all about lumans the more lumans a light puts out the faster the plants will grow you should buy a cheap 400 wat high pressure sodium if you really want to grow smokable MJ you can get one of these lights for $100 at insidesun.com and 71 deg is fine temp anything between 65-75 is great

Smoker777
05-04-2008, 11:29 AM
Plants need lots of light to grow a 20 watt cfl isnt enough light and mecury vaper lamps are a bad choice its all about lumans the more lumans a light puts out the faster the plants will grow you should buy a cheap 400 wat high pressure sodium if you really want to grow smokable MJ you can get one of these lights for $100 at insidesun.com and 71 deg is fine temp anything between 65-75 is great

Will the HPS make more heat and raise the temperature?

slowmo77
05-04-2008, 01:29 PM
an hps light will raise your temps. if your looking for some cheap lights that do a good job just get some compact floresence (the spiral kind). try to find them in 42watts they're a full spectrum so you can use them for veg and flower. the more you have the better. hope this helps

Hick
05-04-2008, 02:04 PM
.."IMHO"... 2 feet is NOT tall enough to cultivate mj in....
"2 sq ft" .. a 400 would definately be over kill in that space. I would consider possibly a low wattage hps(50-75) and suppliment with cfls.

trillions of atoms
05-04-2008, 02:44 PM
MV is the wrong spectrum to grow with....hps would be better try a 150.

Crazy Horse
05-04-2008, 06:46 PM
U only have a 2'x1' by 2' tall growing space!:holysheep:

MARY-JANE
05-04-2008, 07:40 PM
:p well i understand ur growroom. I started out the same way. Everybody would say use this, use that. But if u don't have alot of money use what u can. I use a shoplight fixture the come in 2ft. It used 2 t-8 lights (floresent lights). the fixture will run u bout $8.00 @ wal-mart. And u can pick up the bulbs (long ones) @ home depot for bout $6.00 a light. full-spectrum 40watt plant light.

When u ready to flower jus switch to two 32watt (still t-8) natural sunshine, the lumens is 2950 per light; plus color temp is 5000k and color rendering is 86. I use these and they work great. (Check out "Butter Cream" in indoor growing forum) and u shall see what I got using these lights.

Good luck.....Happy growing B Safe........;)

Smoker777
05-05-2008, 12:48 AM
U only have a 2'x1' by 2' tall growing space! :holysheep:

Well yeah, it's not easy to have big space growing or they will be easily recognized by any visitors coming to my place which might cause trouble, that spot in my place are the best place to hide those plants with stuff they need.

:p well i understand ur growroom. I started out the same way. Everybody would say use this, use that. But if u don't have alot of money use what u can. I use a shoplight fixture the come in 2ft. It used 2 t-8 lights (floresent lights). the fixture will run u bout $8.00 @ wal-mart. And u can pick up the bulbs (long ones) @ home depot for bout $6.00 a light. full-spectrum 40watt plant light.

When u ready to flower jus switch to two 32watt (still t-8) natural sunshine, the lumens is 2950 per light; plus color temp is 5000k and color rendering is 86. I use these and they work great. (Check out "Butter Cream" in indoor growing forum) and u shall see what I got using these lights.

Good luck.....Happy growing B Safe........;)

Thank you so much! This way does make sense, it should works perfect for that space for 7 plants. Also I checked your thread "Butter Cream", your plant look so beautiful :) Thanks again, I guess I will go to the walmart and see what I can find.

Thank you everyone else for the help :)

Crazy Horse
05-05-2008, 02:13 AM
Goodluck lol!

Smoker777
05-05-2008, 08:59 AM
Here's the update, I went to the Wal Mart, and bought a special garden flourscent light, my indoor garden does look like it got lights from outside now! I think they will do fine :) Thanks again everyone.

smokybear
05-05-2008, 09:15 AM
Get as much light as you can in there for the best results. The more lumens, the better. Keep us posted. Take care and be safe. Welcome to MP, by the way.

CasualGrower
05-05-2008, 12:51 PM
For flowering go with a Kit/Bath bulb.... they are 3000K and that is a LOT more red spectrum light which the plants will utilize MUCH more during flowering.....If you are using a 2 bulb fixture... or 2 fixtures, go with a Daylight spectrum. 6500K and a Kit/bath 3000K bulbs.

MARY-JANE
05-05-2008, 03:38 PM
ur welcome smoke777 any time :p



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