hydro vs soil

[zipflip]

ok now this has been bothering me for some time an i cant get a grip on it. if hydroponics set ups involve roots bein submerged in water then why is it that when u give a plant in soil too much water u can drown it possibly damage it but in hydro the roots can be swimmin freely wavin in the wter like octopus tentacles 24-7 and not be harmed in such manor.... just curious

[The New Girl]

ok now this has been bothering me for some time an i cant get a grip on it. if hydroponics set ups involve roots bein submerged in water then why is it that when u give a plant in soil too much water u can drown it possibly damage it but in hydro the roots can be swimmin freely wavin in the wter like octopus tentacles 24-7 and not be harmed in such manor.... just curious

Hi, this is my understanding of it: Because in soil they don't get as much oxygen to the roots with just plain water and overwatering can cause root rot, the plants over feed on water because the root is trapped in water with low oxygen and get droopy etc. In hydro airstones or other means are used to keep the water full of oxygen, which roots need so the uptake has plenty of oxygen and not just water (with small amounts of oxygen) and they thrive in this type environment. :p

[lyfr]

Hi, this is my understanding of it: Because in soil they don't get as much oxygen to the roots with just plain water and overwatering can cause root rot, the plants over feed on water because the root is trapped in water with low oxygen and get droopy etc. In hydro airstones or other means are used to keep the water full of oxygen, which roots need so the uptake has plenty of oxygen and not just water (with small amounts of oxygen) and they thrive in this type environment. :p:yeahthat:

[zipflip]

sounds logical enough for me. :-) thanks

[BuddyLuv]

Once you go hydro you will never mess with soil again.

[Tater]

Good explanation. Just my mums are in dirt and I'm thinking of switching them all to small bubble buckets.

[CasualGrower]

OK the first answer you got was just about the perfect scientific answer........ Basically said.... Roots need O2...... The plant eats CO2 for food but the roots need O2 to be healthy... Kinda a oxymoron in action eh...

Most of the popular systems for hydro now is the the DWC...... This is a Nute solution with a bubblestone that provides the O2 for the plant.


Trust me.... For MJ.. It is ALMOST perfect......

[zipflip]

someday i'll give the hydro a whirl. im still green(no punn intended lol) wit the growin scene this years my first outdoor grow an all so well so far. 13 ladies.
this winter i wanna try do some indoor but debating bout the soil or hydro. can u supercrop when doin hydor too? i love the supercroppin idea considerin im somewhat limited to space availabilkity and i could stealth em more doin super croppin.
one step at a time one project i mean. im doin outdoor bagseed this year this winter i'll try some indoor soil maybe just 2-4maybe 5 plants. then next year i'll go outdoors again an when they ready to i'm gonna tryu some cloning an use soil first and or maybe do soil and hydro a couple and couple soil just to use as learnin exp. this is just a idea of wat i wanna do as the future rolls round.. someday i hope to be a novice like hick an be able to answer people ?'s on here wit ease an sophistication etc....
i am a young jedi soon to be a jedi master. lol.... in the making all

[BuddyLuv]

By an Emily's garden from hydrofarm. It is a good starter for hydroponics. Do a couple plants in it and do a couple in soil. When you compare the growth and yeild of the two your mind will be made up. The Emily's garden is a passive wick system so it is very easy to use and easy to maintain. Even with that system I bet growth rate will be doubled.

[4u2sm0ke]

I only bath in large tubs of water...Im just a dirt farmer from USA...and have smoked Hydro weed a while back and did not care for it..IMO..it has a taste I do not like...and seems to me that hydro would be more work involved..jmo..

But like buddyluv said try both and use what works best for your Grow..I like "LST" when tryn to keep plant low...you can do both as well on the same plant


420

[city]

This is all correct. i love hydro though. the thing i notice the most with hydro is how fast it grows!!!
i have 2 plants seeded a week apart. hydro was the second. it is 4 times the size... too bad its a male..but its the point. getting the pollen for future crop.
dont let hydro scare you off. its actually really simple. DWC is really easy
My first grow was in soil like many of us.. it jest takes for ever!
if you want to get into hydro try something simple
keep track of your PPM and PH and you will be fine.
30 gal tub 4-6 cut outs . wrap in 10 mil tape. run an air stone and an inexpensive pump on drip. when the roots ar emerged in the water. kill the water pump and just run the air stone. change water every 10 days.


Sea of Green Baby!!

[BuddyLuv]

I just made a similar set up like city for my mothers. Cost me a little over 40 bucks with good pumps, not including the lamp.

[4u2sm0ke]

This is all correct. i love hydro though. the thing i notice the most with hydro is how fast it grows!!!
i have 2 plants seeded a week apart. hydro was the second. it is 4 times the size... too bad its a male..but its the point. getting the pollen for future crop.
dont let hydro scare you off. its actually really simple. DWC is really easy
My first grow was in soil like many of us.. it jest takes for ever!
if you want to get into hydro try something simple
keep track of your PPM and PH and you will be fine.
30 gal tub 4-6 cut outs . wrap in 10 mil tape. run an air stone and an inexpensive pump on drip. when the roots ar emerged in the water. kill the water pump and just run the air stone. change water every 10 days.


Sea of Green Baby!!


:confused2: ..How does Hydro make a plant grow faster???? if a strain takes 8 weeks to Harvest..would it not take the same amount of time if done in hydro? please take no offence to what Im sayN..and did you also produce a female..cause Males are known to grow faster.stronger and look better then females...without realy haveing both a female in soil and one in Hydro to do a realtest..and Im sure theres a thousand threads on it but Im to High and Lazy to look..I like soil thats all..

Sorry if i stepped out of line..I will smoke on it now:bong2:

[NorCalHal]

:confused2: ..How does Hydro make a plant grow faster???? if a strain takes 8 weeks to Harvest..would it not take the same amount of time if done in hydro? please take no offence to what Im sayN..and did you also produce a female..cause Males are known to grow faster.stronger and look better then females...without realy haveing both a female in soil and one in Hydro to do a realtest..and Im sure theres a thousand threads on it but Im to High and Lazy to look..I like soil thats all..

Sorry if i stepped out of line..I will smoke on it now:bong2:

Uptake my friend, uptake.
A Hydro plant will have more "uptake" of nuits and thus grow, "faster". All this means is it will get bigger faster.
As far as flowering time, you are correct, they will allways be the same. If a strain takes 8 weeks flower, it will take 8 weeks flower no matter if your indoor, outdoor, hydro or soil.
That is a big misconception of hydro. It just promotes faster growth.
this is very prominant in Veg. You can Veg a plant in soil and one in hydro, the hydro will get bigger faster. So, I guess if you look at strickly veg times to get your plant to desired height, hydro is "faster".

There are also MANY methods of hydro. Some promoting faster growth then others. I would have to say that Aeroponics is the fastest, with DWC coming in a close second. I personally use a hydro-drip system to much success.

The soil vs hydro debate has been ragin' longer then most of the posters here have been alive.And it will allways be. IMHO, I think that soil is easier, as it is a natural "buffer" for folks who are not sure of nuit concentrations. Most folks allways use more then needed, and a soil plant can handle it a little better. In hydro, you can over nuit real quick and kill your plants off because of the faster uptake and nuit soulution constantly being fed.

[4u2sm0ke]

Thanks NorCalHal...That makes more sence 2me now...thanks

[ChatNoir]

someday i'll give the hydro a whirl. im still green(no punn intended lol) wit the growin scene this years my first outdoor grow an all so well so far. 13 ladies.
this winter i wanna try do some indoor but debating bout the soil or hydro. can u supercrop when doin hydor too? i love the supercroppin idea considerin im somewhat limited to space availabilkity and i could stealth em more doin super croppin.
one step at a time one project i mean. im doin outdoor bagseed this year this winter i'll try some indoor soil maybe just 2-4maybe 5 plants. then next year i'll go outdoors again an when they ready to i'm gonna tryu some cloning an use soil first and or maybe do soil and hydro a couple and couple soil just to use as learnin exp. this is just a idea of wat i wanna do as the future rolls round.. someday i hope to be a novice like hick an be able to answer people ?'s on here wit ease an sophistication etc....
i am a young jedi soon to be a jedi master. lol.... in the making all

Hydro is super cropping actually, hydroponic plants get twice as big as soil plants in same time frame. Hydroponic growing is not forgiving as soil though, one mistake and you'll see your ladies dying, begging for forgiveness from the green god of buds (for purple strains there are purple gods as well)...

I am growing in soil as well, as soon as I get my rockwool blocks and ppm meter, I am switching to hydro as well. Soil all but problems for me.

[BuddyLuv]

Yeah my plants in an aerojet grew 24 inches in less then 4 weeks, with two 1000w lamps. My outdoor grown in soil under the megawatt lamp only grow about 6-12 inches in a month with regular waterings. They usually reach 5-6 foot by flower time (april-oct.) If I was to let my hydro plants grow for 5 months they would 10-12 foot.

[NorCalHal]

Hydro is super cropping actually,

This is incorrect. 2 completly different things. You can supercrop soil as well. Supercropping is just a mothod of plant training.

[city]

i agree agree agree. hydro is touchy. hydro is fun. and in veg.. looook out. it will be a grown up in no time. flower does take the same amount of time.
oh just to let you know. get a little furnace condinsate pump from homi depot. there only about 30 bucks. dont get the fountain pumps cost too much///:D