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Exarmy
06-29-2009, 05:31 AM
I heard from some where that there are mythical strains not allowed to compete!
Any Truth?
Anybody else have any?
phatpharmer
06-29-2009, 05:43 AM
I don't no about that but I have heard that the cups are bought not Won, I've heard that Greenhouse seeds are the worst for this, mind you these are all rumours its not like I was there for the payoff!LOL I heard the 420 cup is better to go to mind you I would love to go to either!
Phatpharmer
SPEARCHUCKER
06-29-2009, 05:59 AM
Yea I think there some truth I guess.
Sensi NL got banned after 3 wins right?
Then their Jack Herer got banned?
Then I read somewhere that the company got banned. I checked and the last couple years they havent had a single entry.
I dont know if their is any real truth. But they must not be entering strains for some reason.
NorCalHal
06-29-2009, 02:30 PM
I was never down for some "judges" to tell me what the "best "weed was anyway. I'll decide for myself....
hanfhead
06-29-2009, 02:45 PM
I was never down for some "judges" to tell me what the "best "weed was anyway. I'll decide for myself....
QFT
kaotik
06-29-2009, 03:42 PM
Yea I think there some truth I guess.
Sensi NL got banned after 3 wins right?
Then their Jack Herer got banned?
nothing's won 3 cup (from the info i could find)
Super Silver Haze won twice.
1st Cup 1988 - Skunk #1 from Cultivator's Choice
2nd Cup 1989 - Early Pearl/Skunk #1 x Northern Lights #5/Haze by the Seed Bank
3rd Cup 1990 - Northern Lights #5 from the Seed Bank
4th Cup 1991 - Skunk from Free City
5th Cup 1992 - Haze x Skunk #1 from Homegrown Fantasy
6th Cup 1993 - Haze x Northern Lights #5 from Sensi Seed Bank
7th Cup 1994 - Jack Herer from Sensi Seed Bank
8th Cup 1995 - White Widow from the Green House
9th Cup 1996 - White Russian from De Dampkring
10th Cup 1997 - Peace Maker from De Dampkring
11th Cup 1998 - Super Silver Haze from the Green House
12th Cup 1999 - Super Silver Haze from the Green House
13th Cup 2000 - Blueberry from the Noon
14th Cup 2001 - Sweet Tooth from Barney's
15th Cup 2002 - Morning Glory from Barney's
16th Cup 2003 - Hawaiian Snow from Green House
17th Cup 2004 - Amnesia Haze from Barney's
18th Cup 2005 - Willie Nelson from Barney's
19th Cup 2006 - Arjan's Ultra Haze #1 from Green House
20th Cup 2007 - G-13 Haze from Barney's
21st Cup 2008 - Super Lemon Haze from Green House
now there is a few different catagorys they have, but this is the list for 'cannabis cup winners'
i agree with Hal though. and i'm sure there's some crazy stuff that some recluse grows that the world doesn't even know about.
SPEARCHUCKER
06-29-2009, 04:39 PM
Why does it always say this.
Northern Lights. A pure Indica, won the Cannabis Cup in '88, '89, '90.
Maybe its the pure indica division. Dont know, why I put question marks. Just rumors Ive run across.
But I agree with Hal. You like what you like, you dont what you dont.
Like with movies, all awards do is help sales.
kaotik
06-29-2009, 04:53 PM
^ yeah, there's also different side cups for indica, sativa, hash etc.. you're probably thinking one of those.
hanfhead
06-29-2009, 04:54 PM
QFT
Whoever sent me an infraction for this, learn the internet please. THIS MEANS "QUOTED FOR TRUTH" I WAS AGREEING WITH HIM, WOW. Learn internet slang before sending me this.
offensive, uncalled for, breaking the rules.
What is offensive about saying "quoted for truth" ???????????????
:chillpill:
kaotik
06-29-2009, 05:02 PM
lol (i honestly thought it was 'quite F'in true' for years ;)
hanfhead
06-29-2009, 05:04 PM
lol (i honestly thought it was 'quite F'in true' for years ;)
Haha, I guess it kinda means that too. :)
SPEARCHUCKER
06-29-2009, 05:11 PM
I didnt know what it meant hanfhead. I was going to ask in my last post.
Doesnt seem offensive. But like Kaotik, I thought it was bad at first.
I do get offended at the use of, U for You, 4 for for, L8ter, N for And. And lazy, childish, 2nd grader stuff like that. I wont even respond to a post using that mess. Arg! it ticks me off. :laugh:
ozzydiodude
06-29-2009, 05:15 PM
I didnt know what it meant hanfhead. I was going to ask in my last post.
Doesnt seem offensive. But like Kaotik, I thought it was bad at first.
I do get offended at the use of, U for You, 4 for for, L8ter, N for And. And lazy, childish, 2nd grader stuff like that. I wont even respond to a post using that mess. Arg! it ticks me off. :laugh:
:aok:
NYC_Diesel x Jack_Herer
06-29-2009, 05:17 PM
In the Sensi Seeds marketing blurb for their Northern Lights, they wrote this, "For many years, Northern Lights dominated the various harvest festivals, winning cup after cup, leading to a more than one request that she be retired from competition in order to allow other strains a shot at the title."
However this is taken from their blurb on the strain, who knows how true it is.
There are MANY cups and competitions in many different countries. There is NO STRAIN out there that has been banned from them all, and there never will be. If someone on a website is ever advertising a strain that is so good it is not allowed to compete, they are LYING.
hanfhead
06-29-2009, 05:31 PM
I didnt know what it meant hanfhead. I was going to ask in my last post.
Doesnt seem offensive. But like Kaotik, I thought it was bad at first.
I do get offended at the use of, U for You, 4 for for, L8ter, N for And. And lazy, childish, 2nd grader stuff like that. I wont even respond to a post using that mess. Arg! it ticks me off. :laugh:
First of all, sorry to have derailed this perfectly good thread. I assure you all it was not my intention, I moderate two other forums and know how annoying it is. I only wanted to agree with a user because I was going to say the same thing but he had already done so.
Again sorry, I didn't mean to offend anybody. And Spearchucker, if those little things "offend" you, you had better chill out and smoke one man. TBH (that means "to be honest") your name offends me, it comes off as a bit racist.
You are all entitled to your opinions, but if I can not express myself how I see fit, (within reason) I will go elsewhere. I mostly come here for entertainment and to help some new growers. (Feel free to check my post history. It's not much, I am new here)
HH
NYC_Diesel x Jack_Herer
06-29-2009, 05:47 PM
I'm not sure about companies buying cups, though I am sure there are attempts to pay off the judges. If you look at laotik's post above like the last 11 years Barney's and Greenhouse have won every year except for one. Having grown strains from both breeders I can attest to the fact that they have some GREAT genetics. Are they good enough that they deserved to win every year over the last decade?....I am not so sure. There are hundreds of breeding houses out there, some I would say are better overall such as Sensi Seeds.
ozzydiodude
06-29-2009, 05:54 PM
We all know that one seed may lead to the next greatest smoke there is.
NYC_Diesel x Jack_Herer
06-29-2009, 06:13 PM
We all know that one seed may lead to the next greatest smoke there is.
I agree. That is what is tough about looking at cup winners. You will never know the genetic diversity of the strain. I ordered super silver haze from greenhouse which has won a cup. I got ten beans and 6 were female. But none of them carried a pheno that I thought was good at all, I just didn't think it was good period. Perhaps the pheno that won the cup only displays itself in 1 out of 100 females. But of the 10 Jack Herer beans I got I germed 5, 3 were female and two displayed GREAT sativa dominant phenos that produce some great smoke. The third just did not have very good trich production at all.
Check it out. I grew two different NYCD females from seed. I took clones and flowered the seed plants. See the fuzzy one without as many trichs? Those clones were destroyed. The other one with all the trichs, those clones were kept. As you can see, the genetic diversity even inside a strain is huge. The one on the right below is the dried product of the pic I put up for BPOTM. If you blow it up you can even see trichs on the stem where I cut away some bud for smoke.
My last grow for a while :(
crizzo357
06-29-2009, 10:25 PM
Sweet bud pics NYC!
Whoever sent me an infraction for this, learn the internet please. THIS MEANS "QUOTED FOR TRUTH" I WAS AGREEING WITH HIM, WOW. Learn internet slang before sending me this.
What is offensive about saying "quoted for truth" ???????????????
:chillpill:
It was me who reported it and negative rep'd you. The only QFT I had ever heard before stood for "quit _____ talking". I misunderstood, and I apologize. If I could take back the negative rep I would. :48:
Super Silver Haze
07-02-2009, 02:24 PM
i guess this says something about typing out completely what you want to say instead of using acronyms.
i didnt know what QFT stood for either. i know i couldnt insert words that fit and then take offense but why, this is online not in person.
why take offense at what you assume someone ment by that acronym in question, just ask for a clarification.
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