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i have made brownies that made me really stoned. then i tried just putting kiff into an empty pill and when i had that it only made me feel slightly high, i used about .7 of that crystal so it was a big waste but i wanted to try it.

now im thinking of simmering really concentrated oil and then filling the pills with oil. would this work?
 
meh, ive tried it...took 2 big horse pills of it, did nearly nothing, wish a wouldve just soaked a nug in it and let it dry
 
Ahh man, you need an account to check that out. :(

"We tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!" - Ned Flanders father
 
thc right off the bush will get you messed up. No cooking, no heat, no nothing is needed for thc to break the "Blood-Brain" barrier. This is easy to look up.

Why use a pill to deliver it? Just gobble a bud.

Keep in mind that the high from eating weed is NOT THE SAME as the high from smoking it.

When eaten, it takes longer for the high to come on, and if you also have food or anything else in your stomach, then it takes even longer.

I find it to be a great way to enjoy an entire evening out on the town. I eat a couple of buds about an hour before leaving the house and the high from it lasts me for 4+ hours.

I use a glass of whatever with a "Immersion Blender". 5 seconds, drink, rinse the blender, I'm good.

If you're looking for the same high you get from smoking, you won't find it by eating weed. It's just not the same.
 
I found this right up somewhere else but I thought it might help those who can smoke.

The following ‘step-by-step’ tutorial outlines the tools and techniques needed to convert quantities of bud, hash or keif into tasteless pill capsules that can be swallowed to give a measured dose of potent, active THC to the user.

For simplicity and economy we’ll just be using 1 gram of hash or kief (or, one and a half grams of bud) and making it into 12 cannabis capsules, each containing around 0.08 grams of activated THC.
As a guide:
1 capsule can be taken by medicinal users for strong pain relief.
2 capsules will give a regular smoker an intense 4 to 6 hour trip.
3 capsules (experienced tokers only) a 6 to 8 hour plus ‘wild ride’.

To make larger quantities of capsules simply increase the ingredients pro-rata.
i.e. To make 24 pills just double everything, for 48 double everything again and so on.

Part 1. The essential cooking ‘Equipment’:

1. A Crock Pot.

Or:

A medium sized pan, a mixing bowl and a lid and some hot water.

2. A quantity of size 00 Gelatin Capsules. They can be bought from some pharmacies, health food shops or online in quantities of 100

3. A teaspoon.

Part 2 The essential ‘Ingredients’:

Either: 1 gram of good Hashish
Or: 1 gram of fine grained ‘keif’.
Or: 1.5 grams of good ‘Bud’ (no stems, no seeds, or pointy leaves).

And: 7 grams (one and a half teaspoons) of Coconut oil or clarified butter.

Empty pill capsules come in several sizes, the ones I recommend are 00 sized, as the smaller ones are a little fiddly to make and don’t hold much, and the bigger sizes are a little hard to swallow.
Also, select only the Gelatine variety not the vegetarian ones as they can leak when exposed to fats and oils.
An internet search for ‘empty 00 gelatine capsules’ will no doubt give you a variety of sources.
Ideally, you’ll also need a jar of Coconut oil, or failing that some clarified butter (or ‘Ghee’ as it’s called in Asian cookery). If you’re struggling to find either, don’t panic, it’s easy to make your own Ghee using ordinary butter (I’ll explain further on).

Coconut oil (solid depending on room temperature) can be bought from some health food shops and other specialist food stores.
Go for the ‘extra virgin organic coconut oil’ if you can find it, as It’s one of the safest oils to cook with, contains no ‘trans fats’ (unhealthy fat), is high in saturated fat, and most importantly is ‘digestion friendly’ (unlike certain other monounsaturated or polyunsaturated oils) meaning the THC can be absorbed easily by the stomach and liver, and therefore passed into the bloodstream to do its job without loss of potency.


The optional items:

In addition, there are some items that’ll help in making the capsules easier to measure and fill, but you can get by without them as long as you have a steady hand and some patience. However, for those people who are likely to repeat the process, they are inexpensive to buy and make it much easier and quicker to make regular or larger quantities.

They are:

A) A capsule filler container. Google ‘Cap.M.Quik’ which holds 50 capsules.

N.B. Make sure it is sized for 00 capsules.
Typically, if you buy one from ebay you’ll be offered it with the capsules bundled together usually 400/500

B) A syringe or pipette. To siphon off the activated oil and ‘inject’ into the capsules (a children’s liquid medicine dispenser holds exactly 1 teaspoon (5 ml).

C) An accurate set of measuring spoons ( used to scrape exactly the right amount of ‘solidified’ Coconut oil or clarified butter out of the jar or tub (assuming it’s straight out of the fridge). Once you’ve leveled off the spoon, you’ll have the precise amount, 5 ml (Useful for dosage control).
 
Part 3 - The science behind it.
The key to making effective capsules is in the THC extraction process.
In short, the secret is to expose the bud, keif or hash to prolonged, low heat (simmering) in an oil or butter high in saturated fat* in order to thoroughly break down the structure of the resin heads and allow the THC to ‘bind’ to the fat molecules.
If the temperature is too high, you run the risk of losing potency due to the vaporization/evaporation of the THC (if the smell is strong, you’re doing it wrong). Too low, and you won’t convert the inactive compounds into active, or allow them an opportunity to effectively combine with the oil/butter.

This fat is then added to the capsules, which once swallowed, release the concentrated THC directly into the stomach for maximum absorption into the bloodstream.

*The type of ‘short chain fatty acids’ that are found in Coconut oil and Ghee (clarified butter) are excellent conductors of THC, and much easier for the human digestive system to metabolize. Therefore, where possible, go for an oil or butter high in saturated fats rather than monounsaturated or polyunsaturated. Although they’ll still work, much of the potency will be lost, requiring much greater amounts of weed to eaten in order to achieve similar results. As coconut oil is far cheaper than good weed, you’re better off investing in a jar.

This step is the most important part. Heating the weed must occur to decarboxylaize it.

This converts THCA to THC via a decarboxylation reaction.
In whole-plant cannabis, THC content is expressed as THCA (tetrahydrocannabolic acid) prior to decarboxylation into THC, which takes place when cannabis is heated during cooking, and smoked or vaporized ingestion. THCA is a mild analgesic and anti-inflammatory but does not have good affinity with our CB1 receptors, so in order to make a THC-rich mixture that has many of the same therapeutic effects as smoked ingestion (including rapid absorption, quick relief and ease of self-titration), we must convert the THCA in the plant matter into THC prior to consuming

Part 4 - Now the ‘how to’
I usually recommend using ‘hashish’ or ‘kief’ over ‘Bud’ when cooking, because it is a quicker and simpler process of conversion, and the effects are (slightly) more predictable. However, if you only have access to ‘Grass’ don’t worry, you can still make them just as easily using the following method.

Grass method:

Due to the difference in THC strength, you’ll need to use 1.5 grams of good quality well cured bud in order to match the potency of 1 gram of hash or kief. Firstly, remove any stems, seeds or obvious leaf material* then grind to as small a grain (powder) as you can manage, then just follow the rest of the steps as detailed below.


The Canna-oil Method: If using a Slow Cooker (Crock pot).

The beauty of slow cookers is you can pretty much switch them on and forget about them.
Typically, a slow cooker will have 2 or 3 settings (low, medium and high).
Due to the size of these ‘cookers’ I recommend placing your oil/butter in a much smaller ‘oven-proof’ container otherwise it’ll just make a thin coating on the bottom of your pan.
In my case I use an eggcup (or a coffee cup when making larger quantities) the shape makes it easier to ‘siphon’ off the oil and to scrape out the residue.

Simply set the cooker to ‘low’, add the ghee/oil and then the hash/kief or bud and leave to slowly simmer for the required time.

1 hour for hash.
1 and half hours for kief.
2 hours for bud.


The Canna-oil Method: If using a Pan and Mixing Bowl

Pour around three inches of boiling water into your cooking pan, then sit the mixing bowl in the water so that it’s floating just off the bottom (very important), add the oil or Ghee (clarified butter) to the mixing bowl and let it melt, then add your hashish, kief or powdered bud and dissolve slowly while keeping the lid on and the boiling water just barely simmering beneath.

Floating the mixing bowl in the water and keeping the lid on prevents ‘burning off’ the THC which evaporates/vaporises at high temperatures.(over 180. The boiling water keeps the butter/oil at the perfect temperature of around 170 degrees centigrade (boiling point) to slowly ‘wring’ out every last molecule of ‘spacey goodness’!.

This step is the most important part. Heating the weed must occur to decarboxylaize it.

This converts THCA to THC via a decarboxylation reaction.
In whole-plant cannabis, THC content is expressed as THCA (tetrahydrocannabolic acid) prior to decarboxylation into THC, which takes place when cannabis is heated during cooking, and smoked or vaporized ingestion. THCA is a mild analgesic and anti-inflammatory but does not have good affinity with our CB1 receptors, so in order to make a THC-rich mixture that has many of the same therapeutic effects as smoked ingestion (including rapid absorption, quick relief and ease of self-titration), we must convert the THCA in the plant matter into THC prior to consuming
 
Part 5 – Filling the capsules:

Now that you’ve made your concentrated THC saturated oil/butter you need to get it into your capsules.

Firstly, wait for the oil to cool down a little otherwise you run the risk of melting the capsules.
Both the coconut oil and Ghee will remain liquid around the 74 degrees mark for quite a while, therefore it’s easier to add the oil while it’s still in this form assuming you have something to draw up the liquid like a children’s medicinal syringe, pipette or similar.
Just add it in equal measures to the capsules.

Once you’ve added even amounts of the oil to your caps you’ll need to scrape out and add the residue. I’ve found that the handle of a teaspoon or coffee stirrer is ideal for this process, however if you want to take it to another level you can always purchase a laboratory spatula.

Depending on whether you used hash/kief or ground bud will dictate how easy this process is. For example hash and kief will be mostly oil with a small residue at the bottom, while ground bud will be more like a paste, and as such hard to draw up in a syringe.
In this case (or if you don’t have a syringe), you may want to pour the oil/butter onto a small plate and then put it in the fridge until it sets. Later, using the tip of a sharp knife, cut the butter into twelve equally sized pieces and poke them into the capsules using a chopstick/match etc.

Part 6 - Techniques and tips.

If using bud, remember ‘no stems, no seeds or pointed leaves’.
Anyone who’s grown and studied their plant under a x30 jeweler’s loupe will be able to describe the microscopic thorns that the pointed leaves are covered in. Even when finely ground, some of these thorns can survive and irritate the stomach lining.

Also (contrary to most advice given about eating cannabis), I don’t recommend you take cannabis capsules on a completely empty stomach. Therefore by eating something like: a slice of toast, a sandwich or a packet of crisps beforehand, you’re preparing your stomach to digest food and thereby activating the gastric juices which will break down your capsules quickly and efficiently.


Effects will start to ‘kick in’ after about an hour and a half, and last for around six to eight hours (depending on how many you took). Should you begin to feel overwhelmed you can shorten the ‘trip’ and reduce its effects by eating sugary foods, or drinking fruit juices rich in vitamin C







enjoy:holysheep:
 
Keep in mind that heating MJ isn't really necessary to get high from eating it. Decarboxylaization may add 10% to the high, if that.

If I'm going to get high from weed, I'll take a nice fat bud, throw it in a cup or two of my favorite drink and blend hell out of it.

Drink it down and 45 minutes to an hour later, it's high times at Stoney's stompin grounds.

It's the KISS principle.
 
i aint callin ya liarstoney but i ate a bud a couple times an didnt do nothin for me :confused2:
still debatin on wat HIE told me to try . mix a bit of some iso oil wit soe cookin oil and warm it in like a shot glass on a candle warmer or somethin and shoot it and ofcourse chase it wit somethin i guess.
just dont know bout the whole drinkin strait cookin oil thing really is all. yuck lol
 
zipflip said:
i aint callin ya liarstoney but i ate a bud a couple times an didnt do nothin for me :confused2:
still debatin on wat HIE told me to try . mix a bit of some iso oil wit soe cookin oil and warm it in like a shot glass on a candle warmer or somethin and shoot it and ofcourse chase it wit somethin i guess.
just dont know bout the whole drinkin strait cookin oil thing really is all. yuck lol

It's not me saying it man. It's every Neurologist on the planet. There is no doubt about it.

Step one: They test to see if the blood is free of thc.

Step two: The subject eats the weed.

Step three: They take blood again and find a bunch of thc in it.

You may have just not eaten enough to give you a buzz.

Try it again with a couple of grams of good stuff while you're not drinking or smoking anything else.

If you still don't get high, maybe you're from Mars. :eek: :D
 

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