View Full Version : how many lbs. does 9 plants warrant?
chal7ds
08-19-2006, 08:02 AM
Hey,
i saw a bloombox i was thinkin about buying and it says it can warrant 9 mature plants.
How many lbs of mary will 9 plants produce? does it depend on the seed strain or is it pretty much consistent no matter what seeds u use?
chal7ds
Biffdoggie
08-19-2006, 08:07 AM
It can and will vary wildly depending on both the strain and the conditions they live in. It could be anywhere from zero to who knows. With 9 in a box I wouldn't get too excited about pounds and pounds.
chal7ds
08-19-2006, 08:15 AM
a couple pounds i'd be satisfied with..hell...
Canso
08-19-2006, 06:10 PM
I don't know much about boxes, but you would be very lucky to get a pound.
naturalhi
08-19-2006, 07:21 PM
I got 28oz from 8 plants last grow, Theres a learning curve when beginning so don't worry be happy!
Stoney Bud
08-19-2006, 07:51 PM
Hey,
i saw a bloombox i was thinkin about buying and it says it can warrant 9 mature plants.
How many lbs of mary will 9 plants produce? does it depend on the seed strain or is it pretty much consistent no matter what seeds u use?
chal7ds
There are way too many variables to even answer you. What you've asked is like asking "How far can a car go on a tank of gas?"
1. The final harvested size of the plant
2. The lights used to grow the weed.
3. The Nutrients
4. Temp controls
5. CO2?
6. Dirt, hydro, aero?
And on, and on, and on...
Using Hydro in a 3.5 x 5.5 area with two 430 watt HPS, I grew 4 plants to 5 feet tall and got 19 ounces of cured bud.
It goes down from there if you use dirt, less light, temps are too high, plant is shorter, nutes aren't right....etc.
How are you planning to grow?
Stoney Bud
08-19-2006, 07:54 PM
I got 28oz from 8 plants last grow, Theres a learning curve when beginning so don't worry be happy!How big of a grow area did you have? Did you use dirt or hydro? Lights?
That's the same yeild as I get per/plant under optimum conditions.
Good job man!
Dr.GreenThumb
08-19-2006, 07:55 PM
It goes down from there if you use dirt
:confused: Hater !!:D
chal7ds
08-19-2006, 11:26 PM
There are way too many variables to even answer you. What you've asked is like asking "How far can a car go on a tank of gas?"
1. The final harvested size of the plant
2. The lights used to grow the weed.
3. The Nutrients
4. Temp controls
5. CO2?
6. Dirt, hydro, aero?
And on, and on, and on...
Using Hydro in a 3.5 x 5.5 area with two 430 watt HPS, I grew 4 plants to 5 feet tall and got 19 ounces of cured bud.
It goes down from there if you use dirt, less light, temps are too high, plant is shorter, nutes aren't right....etc.
How are you planning to grow?
it would be an indoor box unit, with 3 ft high plants, not sure of the nutrients, but the box has 2 75 GPH pumps for water drip & a C02 tank which i can add to it. it's a seperated box, so the flowering chamber has different lumens. it powers up to 80,000 lumens. The output box where the plants would mature has an output of 400 watts HPS.
so what u think i can pull from 9 plants out of a box like that?
I got 28oz from 8 plants last grow, Theres a learning curve when beginning so don't worry be happy!
28 oz...let's see...that's about 1.75 lbs...hmm..so i would probably yield 2 lbs from my box, don't ya think? (with experience)
Stoney Bud
08-19-2006, 11:57 PM
it would be an indoor box unit, with 3 ft high plants, not sure of the nutrients, but the box has 2 75 GPH pumps for water drip & a C02 tank which i can add to it. it's a separated box, so the flowering chamber has different lumens. it powers up to 80,000 lumens. The output box where the plants would mature has an output of 400 watts HPS.
so what u think i can pull from 9 plants out of a box like that?
28 oz...let's see...that's about 1.75 lbs...hmm..so i would probably yield 2 lbs from my box, don't ya think? (with experience)
What amount of space in square feet will you have and what strain are you planning to grow?
The reason I'm asking, is that the amount of weed produced by a plant is directly proportional to the area in square feet of canopy, if all other factors remain constant. You've told me the tallest the plants can grow is 3 feet, now I need to know how wide and long the flowering space is.
I've asked about the strain of your intended grow because there is quite a variation in the amount of cured weed you can produce on one strain or the other. Some are very select strains, but produce the least amount per/sq/ft of growing area. Some aren't that great of weed but produce serious amounts of weight per/sq/ft.
We're getting close to a realistic answer to your original question of how much you can produce in your grow room.
Stoney Bud
08-20-2006, 12:05 AM
:confused: Hater !!:DHhahaahahahahahaaa
MyBad! Hey, ALL my Mothers are in dirt! I *LOVE* dirt!!
It makes awesome building foundations too! Hydro can't touch that!
Hydro's only the best for growing MJ! It can't do most of the stuff dirt can!!!! Hhahahahahahahahaa!!!!!!!!
I'm killin me! OhhhhhhNoooooo, I can hear Hick comin.....
Swimmin pools! Dirt makes great swimmin pools. And, and, ponds! How can ya have a decent pond without dirt? It's impossible!
Dirt is our friend!
naturalhi
08-20-2006, 12:48 AM
I use FFdirt and nutes in a 5x5 space under a KW-HPS as I've told u before, What! don't tell me Stoney's Stoney and don't remember!
Stoney Bud
08-20-2006, 12:55 AM
I use FFdirt and nutes in a 5x5 space under a KW-HPS as I've told u before, What! don't tell me Stoney's Stoney and don't remember!
You crazy man! I'm talkin to chal7ds.
Hahahahaha, and yes, I'm stoned Stoney!
chal7ds
08-20-2006, 01:06 AM
What amount of space in square feet will you have and what strain are you planning to grow?
The reason I'm asking, is that the amount of weed produced by a plant is directly proportional to the area in square feet of canopy, if all other factors remain constant. You've told me the tallest the plants can grow is 3 feet, now I need to know how wide and long the flowering space is.
I've asked about the strain of your intended grow because there is quite a variation in the amount of cured weed you can produce on one strain or the other. Some are very select strains, but produce the least amount per/sq/ft of growing area. Some aren't that great of weed but produce serious amounts of weight per/sq/ft.
We're getting close to a realistic answer to your original question of how much you can produce in your grow room.
the grow area in the vegetation chamber is 40" X 26" and 48" high
and how about this for the strain? http://www.drchronic.com/products.asp?recnumber=746
lol..i don't know where else to get seeds...i don't have friends with any...
Stoney Bud
08-20-2006, 01:44 AM
the grow area in the vegetation chamber is 40" X 26" and 48" high
and how about this for the strain? http://www.drchronic.com/products.asp?recnumber=746
lol..i don't know where else to get seeds...i don't have friends with any...
Now we're getting there! You've got roughly a 3.5 x 2 or 7 square feet of area for your canopy. With the type of plant you're going to grow, you should be able to get a reliable ounce per/sq/ft., or 7 ounces from that area with the height restrictions you have. Count on about a half pound of cured weed on each crop.
Not quite the two pounds you wanted, but a half pound is a good stash.
Good luck man, let us all know what it does turn out to be.
chal7ds
08-20-2006, 02:01 AM
anyone have any experience ordering seeds online? is it legit? you actually get seeds in the mail? and they're real..and they grow??
half pound eh? hmm. well, i guess i can deal. do u think there would be any way i could take the plants out when they hit 3 feet and let them grow taller under a light in the corner of my basement, allowing them to produce more? i could manually water them at that point maybe...? i don't know..just an idea to produce more...
also, does anyone know a good (cheap) growing book or instructions of some sort i could buy or get to get me started with this?
Stoney Bud
08-20-2006, 03:08 AM
anyone have any experience ordering seeds online? is it legit? you actually get seeds in the mail? and they're real..and they grow??
half pound eh? hmm. well, i guess i can deal. do u think there would be any way i could take the plants out when they hit 3 feet and let them grow taller under a light in the corner of my basement, allowing them to produce more? i could manually water them at that point maybe...? i don't know..just an idea to produce more...
also, does anyone know a good (cheap) growing book or instructions of some sort i could buy or get to get me started with this?
If you haven't commited to buying the other system, I've put a 4 unti hydro system in the DIY section that would work for you if you use only two tubs instead of four. If you have an area that you can let the plants grow to 5 or 6 feet tall, you can harvest a hell of a lot more bud in a larger area. Can you set up a 4' x 5' area?
Between a couple of other hydro guys here and me, we can get you going good man. Ebb and Flow is my speciality. I think we have a DWC guy here and a couple of drip guys.
Think about the size area I've mentioned above. If you can do that, you'll have a pound per/crop.
On the seeds, yes, I've ordered all my seeds online. I had great luck doing so.
chal7ds
08-20-2006, 04:32 AM
well, my main issue isn't space. i got plenty of basement space. my main issue is keeping this unseen. that's why i'm going with this box. but, if your system covers everything in a box unit, i'd be happy to buy a bigger box unit. the thing is, i can't have this showing in my basement becuz my landlord shows the place every once and awhile. she's actually cool with what i'm doing, but she said as long as you can't 'see' it or 'smell' it, i'm good to go...
this particular unit i'm thinking about getting says it has fans proven to totally wipe out the scent, so i'm good there and it has doors with a lock, so i like that feature...
astra007
08-20-2006, 05:36 AM
sorry to butt in but the fans will not get rid of the smell, only move it. ya will need a carbon filter for odor control.
chal7ds
08-20-2006, 06:40 AM
it has a filter too..oops..forgot to mention that...
astra007
08-20-2006, 07:16 AM
listen to stoney bud; if ya are starting out. he's got sum great posts on hydro here and check out www.nirvana.nl (http://www.nirvana.nl) these good prices to start out with fer seeds fer newbies. order the NL, its a good beginners strain and has a good yeild. IMHO i think if you can get the height up to 7' or more then ya can flower and veg in the same cabinet. complete stealth grow. some1 told me this here. you can run a 600w HPS for 9 plants flower and put a 400w MH in the basement for veg. you can get these wired to 110v and run both ballasts off a 15 amp circuit. put the ballasts outside yer cabinet to help heat issues. you will need a second locked small 1 anyway fer nutrients and other stuff.
Stoney Bud
08-20-2006, 01:05 PM
well, my main issue isn't space. i got plenty of basement space. my main issue is keeping this unseen. that's why i'm going with this box. but, if your system covers everything in a box unit, i'd be happy to buy a bigger box unit. the thing is, i can't have this showing in my basement becuz my landlord shows the place every once and awhile. she's actually cool with what i'm doing, but she said as long as you can't 'see' it or 'smell' it, i'm good to go...
this particular unit i'm thinking about getting says it has fans proven to totally wipe out the scent, so i'm good there and it has doors with a lock, so i like that feature...
I see the problem. Being in a rental has real drawbacks for a grower. Thank God your landlord is cool with it.
If you build a more permenant structure, I guess it would then look like part of her house and something a potential buyer would want to look in. You certainly can't have that.
Mutt is the best on this site with the stealth box grows. If you need help with the hydro part, please, ask anything you need.
Hey Mutt! Help this guy with his box grow man! He needs your stealth mastery!
Well man, If he's got the money to spend that Bloombox is pretty neat. It will be noticable. With a pro system like that, a lot of the bugs are worked out for ya. I think you could do a 6-plant system in it. I think 9 would be a little jam packed. but the seperate mother area is sweet.
Honestly, growing in a rental that is gonna have potential "uncontrolled" traffic it may not be a great idea to grow period. I hate to discourage, but no matter what ya do, something homeade will attract some attention, unless you get a pro-system or change a peice of furniture that will take mounds of time to get it "super-stealth" for plain view. Hidden and stealth is easy, but to have it right there in plain site would be a lot harder. The hard part would be the filtration system and keepin that quiet and hidden.
chal7ds
08-20-2006, 04:37 PM
well this particular box i may buy looks somewhat like a storage bin or freezer/fridge unit. what i was thinking is maybe put it down there so that
it looks like a downstairs freezer for ice cream and such. lol. you know, how grandma used to have a good ol' freezer downstairs? heh. that would explain why it's plugged in too. i could lay some grocery bags by it or something, and then screw a logo off of a freezer in sears or something and put it on there. see, that's probably generic enough that a landlord would know somethin ain't right, but since she's cool with it, i figure a 'passerby' lookin at the place wouldn't think twice. whada think of my idea?
astra007
08-20-2006, 08:55 PM
oh god, the fridge thingy again. hehehe i have a buddy who has a grow in 1 of those old clothes upright cabinets on wheels, this is in his storage place and plugged in from the rear. they have monthly inspections at his apartment complex and he has been running stealth fer 8 years there. these are fairly large and he has 2 of them there; he says to any1 who asks that he stores old clothes and nic nacs in them. winter boots ect.. as his apartment closet is only so big - right? a new fridge outside casing might work as you could tell the landlord - its fer yer new home that someday you want to acquire. appliances have a tendancy to disappear to summer homes and such while a bulky old wooden cabinet will stay for years. IMHO
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