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SmokeSum330

06-29-2006, 08:26 PM

Smoof One

06-30-2006, 02:16 AM

great post smoof. i might be taking a test in a couple of weeks, i'm not sure. i ate some weed cookies last weekend but i haven't smoked in a couple months. would it be in my system longer because i ingested it instead of smoking it?

Hey smokesum330! thanks for taking the time to read my post! Anyways, seeing that you are an occasional smoker like myself. i believe that you will be clean seeing that you haven't smoked in the months prior to when you ate the cookies. also if your test is in a couple of weeks this will give you more than enough time to exercise and flush your system. prior to the test though, quit exercising(quit exercising a week before the test to be on the safe side). and if your test is random just start being active and exercising a.s.a.p. and sweat alot! do cardio. do whatever makes your heart beat, which then burns off the fat cells excreting the THC.

Just stay active and drink the recommended 8 cups of water a day(give or take) and you should be in the clear. as for eating and smoking, and the concern you have for it staying in your system longer. dont worry, im pretty sure that its all the same. it enters your body one way or another so its still saturating the fat cells with THC.

Just ABSTAIN from smoking till your test.. worst thing ever is to smoke and then worry your head off about when your test is. Hope my advice helps bro! peace and love.

Sincerely,
Smoof_One

Ganj

06-30-2006, 05:07 PM

Alright so if I eat like 5 of those little Jello snack packs a half hour before it, would I be okay?

Smoof One

07-07-2006, 07:13 AM

I dont agree necissarily with the whole surgel idea but if it flushes your system well enough then i dont see a problem with it. but im afraid to say that if you take a lab test then the lab personal are gonna know whats up and make you re-test, until you give a perfect accurate sample. either that or you will end up having to take a blood test.

thats my 2 cents.

DopeDoctor

07-07-2006, 05:40 PM

well give them fake tests for about a month, and say you really like jello.

bmello

07-07-2006, 08:09 PM

Smoof One

07-08-2006, 02:40 AM

Smoof, interested in more info where you got it in particular. Searched that website you posted but have neglected to see anything Reputable, reviewed, if you know what I mean, the facts you have posted are scientific facts but did you gather this info on that website? I am very interested, thanks

Well bmello if you go to this link.....http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing.shtml you will see that at the bottom of the page there is a bibliography of where this person got their facts. Erowid is a VERY reputable site! There info is accurate and informative. as for you not seeing the noticalbe research behind it i dont know what to say other than browse around the site and click on the links and dig deeper into the knowledge that is presented before you.

also try these links.. all of them have tons of info waiting to be revealed. it took me a while to find alot of it cuz its not really on a linear basis. you kinda have to look for it.

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_info1.shtml
http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_faq.shtml
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_testing.shtml

if you have any further questions i'd be more than happy to help you find what your looking for.

bmello

07-10-2006, 05:09 PM

Yes I tried to contact the person who wrote it but was unable to find him at the university or anywhere...as for the rest, I don't know if I want to spend the time searching for their reputable resources when I can't find the author...:cool:

Don't get me wrong, some of the stuff is facts, like cut offs/confirms, or the kind of drugs tested for what and how they are tested, people don't even know that meth is tested under a different category than amphetamines...but that stuff could be found anywhere, I am just wondering about the other facts that need to be substantiated...:confused:

Smoof One

07-11-2006, 03:13 AM

I am just wondering about the other facts that need to be substantiated...:confused:

what facts? most of the facts stated on erowid and affiliates are reputable and carry some knowledge. most info that is bullshit...well is bullshit and you can pick that info out. but the other info is pretty straight up and obvious. what exactly are you questioning bmello. give me a link or a sentence or something....so i can help you more.

bmello

07-11-2006, 05:41 PM

6. PRODUCING CLEAN URINE
THC is fat soluble, and it gets stored in your fat cells. Cleaning it out of your lipid tissue is very difficult. Many herbal products claim to clean out your system, yet they do nothing to remove THC byproducts from fat cells. A study was done in Germany in 1993 on 50 of the most common herbs used by people trying to pass the test. All 50 herbs failed to cause a negative. Unfortunately, this rumor will not die. Goldenseal (plant) is useless; yet it's the most common thing for people to use. The only way to extract THC from fat cells is to exercise (5.8). Fat cells secrete fat with THC metabolites at a constant rate, regardless of what herbs you consume. You may be able to temporarily clean THC metabolites from your bloodstream, or dilute your fluids to yield a larger urine/THC ratio, but your bloodstream will continue collecting THC metabolites from fat. Your urine will continue collecting THC metabolites from your bloodstream.

Yes this sounds plausible, but he did not refer who did the test in Germany...exercise is the best but he does refer to a very important fact later that I stress but I don't see much of it here on the forum, watch your exercising, and you must be an avid exerciser for this to work...

6.1 Dilution: Hyper saturating your body with fluids will dilute metabolites possibly below the 50 ng/mL threshold, depending on your metabolism. Be aware that creatinine levels are often tested, and will show that the sample has been diluted. Diluting your sample will also produce clear urine, with virtually no yellow color. They will assume that you've diluted your sample, and they may reject your sample on the basis of color alone. It's only necessary to start drinking just before the test. Those who drown themselves in fluid days before a test are only causing unnecessary discomfort. Those who stay up all night drinking don't have any better chance than one who drinks heavily first thing in the morning. Get up early if the test is early, but don't lose sleep over a test that's given in the daytime.

Creatnine level has to be more than 20 mg. Specific gravity has to be greater than 1.003. I have seen urine look like water and go through a SAMHSA cerified lab and pass, color is not an issue. I have also seen non-certified labs give false positives for these situations because they do what they want because they are not certified and regularly inspected like a SAMHSA certified lab.

6.2.5 Certa or Certo: This is an untested diuretic. Certa "has something to do with canning. Some people swear by it. Trouble is, it's always somebody else, a third party not present during the conversation, who uses it" (Pearson). I've heard rumors about people who smoked right up to the day before the test, consumed fruit pectin (a canning substance similar to Certa), and passed the test. However, there hasn't been any tests to validate those claims. Will someone with a lab at their disposal please test this stuff?

Interesting on this due to the fact, if I am correct, isn't this the same stuff as SureGel? I may be wrong...

6.8 Exercise: Athletes have a big advantage over normal civilians. When fat is burned, THC byproducts are released into the blood. This is the only way to get THC metabolites out of lipid tissue. "Normal living will burn them slowly, as your fat reserves get turned over" (Dr. Grow). Due to an athletes high metabolic rate, THC moves through an athletes system significantly faster. Exercising between drug tests will clean THC metabolites from the system at a faster rate, thus lowering the detection period. It is important to stop burning fat cells near test time. On test day, it doesn't matter what's in your lipid tissue. What's in your blood and urine does matter. Exercise increases the amount of THC metabolites in the urine; so quit exercising a week before the test. Be lazy, and eat big. This will put the body in an anabolic fat-storing stage. At this point, the "buried" THC metabolites won't escape and go the the urine. There are drugs that will increase metabolism the way exercise does, but these are the same drugs that they are usually testing for. Exercise should only be considered when the subject knows that he or she will not be given a pop quiz in the near future.

Again, this process needs to be stressed because I don't think everyone is an avid exerciser and may back fire on them...

11. IF YOU FAIL
If you fail the test, raise hell. Failing the drug test has been known to make a quiet person go ballistic. You will be interviewed by a medical review official (MRO), who would try to find out why you tested positive. MRO's are NOT impartial. An MRO is an employee of the lab, and is there for quality control. They are also there to protect the lab by coercing the court into thinking that the person who failed is a drug abuser. "Anything you say to an MRO can and will be used against you" (RDW). If you fight it, your lawyer "can subpoena the proficiency testing records of the laboratory for review" (anon1). These questions should be asked about the lab you are challenging:
How does the lab handle samples? Are they NIDA/CAP certified? Do they participate in appropriate proficiency testing? Whay is their track records in the proficiency testing program? Have they ever failed a proficiency test? What are the qualifications of the technical staff performing the test? What technologies do they use to screen and confirm?

NIDA tests are now SAMHSA tests and are tested under the strictest guidlines due to the fact that the people that fall under these guidlines have constitutional rights. The only labs that are allowed to do these tests are inspected semi-annually and must follow strict guidlines. Also, an MRO is a doctor and works for himself, they do not work for the lab, and what would the lab and/or MRO benefit with a positive test? You can go to the SAMHSA website and find certified labs and ones that got their certification taken away. The paper trail does not go away because of chain of custodies that follow every drug test collected. All of these procedures are in place to protect the donor (person taking drug test). I personally would trust these outfits more than a half-*** lab that will give any result they want, and those are the ones that need to be watched...Unfortunatly, employers will use these crappy labs because they are cheaper than certified labs, and I personally would want to work for someone that drug tests their employees due to the fact that I could be working around someone who might kill me because they have a substance abuse problem, that is my constitutional right. i only wish that pot was not on the schedule 1 list and that does need to change and the way of testing for it needs to change because of the way it metabolizes in the system.

13. POLITICS AND ETHICS OF DRUG TESTING
He kept this short, so will I: He states that it is unconstitutional for people to be drug tested, as long as they are aware of the effects of the drug. I am a pot smoker and did alot more than pot in my early years. Because of this, I started working with kids because of the drug problem we have. Do research and find out how many babies are born addicted to meth...is that responsible drug use? Is it constitutional for the baby who has no choice? Who is going to pay for the baby's welfare? I have yet to have seen the majority users of meth have total control of the drug...

These are my questions and opinions, you asked, I will now get down from my soapbox...I think that people do not have to spend alot of money to buy products that don't work, but everday juices as a part of a daily ritual, along with exercise and plenty of water helps to speed the washing away of toxins from one's body. I don't discount your advice on exercise, it is an important part of the regimine, but I always believe in plan B's and don't put all your eggs in one basket. I believe that if one smokes pot and knows they will be tested, they plan ahead and do their best to ensure that they will pass. Have a great day!!! :cool:

Smoof One

07-12-2006, 04:20 AM

1.Yes this sounds plausible, but he did not refer who did the test in Germany...exercise is the best but he does refer to a very important fact later that I stress but I don't see much of it here on the forum, watch your exercising, and you must be an avid exerciser for this to work...

2.Creatnine level has to be more than 20 mg. Specific gravity has to be greater than 1.003. I have seen urine look like water and go through a SAMHSA cerified lab and pass, color is not an issue. I have also seen non-certified labs give false positives for these situations because they do what they want because they are not certified and regularly inspected like a SAMHSA certified lab.

3.Interesting on this due to the fact, if I am correct, isn't this the same stuff as SureGel? I may be wrong...

4.Again, this process needs to be stressed because I don't think everyone is an avid exerciser and may back fire on them...

5.NIDA tests are now SAMHSA tests and are tested under the strictest guidlines due to the fact that the people that fall under these guidlines have constitutional rights. The only labs that are allowed to do these tests are inspected semi-annually and must follow strict guidlines. Also, an MRO is a doctor and works for himself, they do not work for the lab, and what would the lab and/or MRO benefit with a positive test? You can go to the SAMHSA website and find certified labs and ones that got their certification taken away. The paper trail does not go away because of chain of custodies that follow every drug test collected. All of these procedures are in place to protect the donor (person taking drug test). I personally would trust these outfits more than a half-*** lab that will give any result they want, and those are the ones that need to be watched...Unfortunatly, employers will use these crappy labs because they are cheaper than certified labs, and I personally would want to work for someone that drug tests their employees due to the fact that I could be working around someone who might kill me because they have a substance abuse problem, that is my constitutional right. i only wish that pot was not on the schedule 1 list and that does need to change and the way of testing for it needs to change because of the way it metabolizes in the system.

5.He kept this short, so will I: He states that it is unconstitutional for people to be drug tested, as long as they are aware of the effects of the drug. I am a pot smoker and did alot more than pot in my early years. Because of this, I started working with kids because of the drug problem we have. Do research and find out how many babies are born addicted to meth...is that responsible drug use? Is it constitutional for the baby who has no choice? Who is going to pay for the baby's welfare? I have yet to have seen the majority users of meth have total control of the drug...

These are my questions and opinions, you asked, I will now get down from my soapbox...I think that people do not have to spend alot of money to buy products that don't work, but everday juices as a part of a daily ritual, along with exercise and plenty of water helps to speed the washing away of toxins from one's body. I don't discount your advice on exercise, it is an important part of the regimine, but I always believe in plan B's and don't put all your eggs in one basket. I believe that if one smokes pot and knows they will be tested, they plan ahead and do their best to ensure that they will pass. Have a great day!!! :cool:
1. contact erowid with the specific reference you are arguing and they should get back to you. but i agree that if you are overwieght and/or obese then exercising isnt going to do it for you. also if you do exercise before a test you should stop exercising 2-3 days before you are tested so your body wont excrete any more thc than nessisary

2. eating red meat prior to your test will increase your creatinine lvls. so even if you urine is diluted it will pass. i agree but when i am typing about this i am refering specificly to certified labs. labs that deal with probation and drug offenses. i have been put through the ringer with being on probation myself and i know what they do and dont do. I've been there when they told my creatinine lvls were wack and that my urine was too clear, or the gravitiy wasnt right!

3. i believe you are right on this fruit pectin is a derivative of sure-gel...

4. again these crappy labs are not what im talking about. i do know that they exist but they are less likely to put up a fight over a false positive. so if hell is raised they may back down and ask for another test, thus going through a more accurate lab...possibly.

5. politics surrounding drug tests are irrelivant to this discussion cuz it deals with passing a drug test, not trying to change legislation. i believe drug testing i a violation of the 5th admendment but thats my own opinion. the only thing we can do is write to our congress men/women and raise debate on this issue.

bmello

07-12-2006, 04:50 PM

Well do you know how to get ahold of this guy because I believe that is how this conversation started, I have tried and all emails are kicked back and don't exist. No not all probation departments use certified labs, I know because I use to work for one. You asked me the discrepencies I had with this website, I included all the discrepencies I had with this website, so why isn't the politics relevant? It shows me that someone is being biased when they include their views and opinions, hence is everything they are saying to be believe?

You opinion is your opinion, I accept it, may not agree with it, that is the point correct? Do I think everything you say is disagreeable to me? No, but anything I don't agree with I would ask you to back up with facts to then decide if I change my opinion. My opinion is based on what facts I have found to be substantiated by peer/reviewed writings, meaning that they have substantial backing on their facts. All I have found on this guys website is the same stuff I have found in scientific writings on the government websites, the rest is just opinion. I may be a skeptic with this guys website, but I need more to believe.

This is how I feel and I am not dinging anyone who chooses to believe in this guy, the info he provides that are scientific facts can be found easily anywhere, but the rest, I just think should warrant more value. My opinion...:cool:

Smoof One

07-12-2006, 05:44 PM

Ok...we're getting alittle to far off topic so I'm just gonna say this. If you dont think erowid is a substantial place for some accurate info dont use, simple. but i've been to other drug sites and they dont even compare to erowid in the amount of knowledge and info about the drugs. some of it may be opinion and some of it may be biased but you have to sift through that. there will never be an pure accurate way of cleansing THC from your system other than abstanance and time. thank you!

bmello

07-12-2006, 07:35 PM

You are welcome, no harm, no foul...:cool:

buhbuh

07-20-2006, 05:57 AM

so im kinda new to this whole deal in general. ive smoked it twice ever haha. once at the end of june and once this past weekend. i just got hit with a surprise drug screening for one of the next two days. i only had a few hits on sunday morning (5-6 total?), would it be enough to show up positive? since i dont know potency or my metabolism and what not, say its average.

ajjazz0627

07-27-2006, 01:51 PM

bmello

07-27-2006, 04:39 PM

I just want to thank Cincy Boy for his jello-o idea. My husband had failed two pre-employment drug-tests. He is a heavy user. The first test we tried one of those supposed "not to fail" drinks. What a bunch of **!!! The second time we tried the vinegar drink and cranberry juice. Did not work!!!. That is when I went on-line an came across this web-site. We tried your jello drink and followed your steps. Guess what he passed and has the job!!!! So I want to say again, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!!!:D

I have questions, is he still smoking and did he ever stop? Is he a big man? Does he exercise regularly? Does he have a fast metabolism? How long has he been a heavy user? If you don't mind, I am very curious as are some others on this forum.

Also, to let you know, cranberry only helps and aids in the cleansing of someone who has stopped smoking, and the vinegar is about as bad as kids taking chlorine, not good at all, but the sure jel is something that people seem to be getting positive results on so congrats for you :cool:

ajjazz0627

07-27-2006, 06:01 PM

bmello,

My husband is 5' 9" he is about 150 lbs. As for exercising regularly he doesn't do much but smoke and drink. He could eat anything and doesn't gain a pound (I hate that!!) so he must have a fast metabolism. He has been a smoker on and off since the age of 16 he is now 42. Recently he has been smoking pretty heavily about 8 times a day (by himself). He could go through an oz. of weed in about 2 days.

He knew he was going to have to take a drug test for this new company so he stopped, I believe it was about 2 wks since he last smoked. The other two times he was tested he smoked up till the night of the test. The only thing that came up on the most recent test was a high sugar count. He had to speak to someone about proper diet and all that.

Hope this helps :)

geo943

07-27-2006, 10:35 PM

i had to take a drug test for probation yesterday. i have takin about 6 tests so far and all i did was drink about 4 liters of water and waited to pee white, then went and took the test. all has been good! but yesterday i did the same thing and rode my bike about 5 miles in 90 degree heat and by the time i got there i was sweating pretty bad.when i pee'd it was somewhat yellow. do u think a failed? last time i smoked was 5 days ago. please help!!

bmello

07-27-2006, 11:05 PM

XesiVe

07-30-2006, 04:12 AM

Great information. :D be sure to remember that one and pass it on :D

truthxpride

08-31-2006, 05:01 PM

OK so i am here yet again with questions for D/T's. I got one last joint left and then i'm done because i need to pass a test for a very important union job. VERY VERY important. I think i'm going to smoke it. Now here's what i need to know... and go ahead and correct me if need be.
In less than thirty days from now is it possible to pass after habitual use and one more joint today?

AeroTX

09-02-2006, 03:45 AM

how many days exactly, and what type of build do you have. And depends on your diet. Go here, these people helped me and many others to pass drug tests vavrying from saliva to hair and urine tests! www.passyourdrugtest.com They have IM so you can talk to a rep and they can help you. They are very nice and helpful

drugtesting

09-13-2006, 11:58 AM

If you want to pass a drug test buy the strip 32 oz drink it works for sure every time you can but it at www.passyourdrugtest2.com

cabby1

09-13-2006, 02:13 PM

just using jello will work? or is sure jell a better way?

and can someone please run me through the steps of using it please. i wanna get it just right:D

cabby

drugtesting

09-13-2006, 03:39 PM

Cabby1 thats bull **** if you smoke every day or every other day spend the
$35 and buy the strip detox drink. www.passyourdrugtest1.com (http://www.passyourdrugtest1.com)

I would also get some detox capsules they help speed things along

thruthxpride yes you can clean your self up

(http://www.passyourdrugtest2.com)

cabby1

09-13-2006, 05:47 PM

no bullshit here. ive smoked like 6-7 times n the past month. not interested in ur drinks or pills just the sure jell. thanks anyways

cabby

drugtesting

09-13-2006, 09:21 PM

ok cabby I have been told that it will work But I would not trust that do a trail run go to wallgreen buy a thc test and I bet you the farm you are dirty I dont care how much sure jell you drink O by the way you buy sure jell at krogers

The main active chemical in marijuana is THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol). The membranes of certain nerve cells in the brain contain protein receptors that bind to THC. Once securely in place, THC kicks off a series of cellular reactions that ultimately lead to the high that users experience when they smoke marijuana

The part of marijuana that gets you high is called `Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol.' Most people just call this THC, but this is confusing: your body will change Delta-9-THC into more inert molecules known as `metabolites,'Unfortunately, these chemicals gets stored in your fat cells and then leak out later like one of those `time release capsules' advertised on TV.
Up to three months depends on alot of factors.
chris
www.passyourdrugtest1.com (http://www.passyourdrugtest1.com)

healy-john

10-04-2006, 12:39 AM

be carful you all make sur its a piss test and not a hair test they can get that way too ya know only
im not sure but i think its only for smokin the gud

Loobie

10-04-2006, 02:31 AM

I'm a user for med. reasons as well as just because I like it. I had to pass a drug test recently and bought the Quick Fix fake urine from urineluck and passed no problem. You can smoke on the way to the test with synthetic

healy-john

10-04-2006, 02:36 AM

round of applause

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insert joint here

Walker1

10-16-2006, 03:44 AM

What if you smoke only once a week. How many days do I have to wait to not sweat a piss test? I mean, in my opinion it's none of anybody's business what I do on my own time in my own home as long as I'm cool. Screw drug tests!

cabby1

10-16-2006, 01:46 PM

I know a guy who can smoke once a week on the day of his piss test and pass every week. I wouldn't advise smoking if you get tested though. He is a meth-baby and claims his metabolism can get rid of it quickly. **** he got arrested and piss-tested in jail. Smoked 4 hours prior....and passed! Definitely don't smoke if you get tested though. It's not worth the few days in jail, assuming your an adult. I can't smoke either:mad: and it sucks because I harvested awhile back

skunk

10-19-2006, 03:20 AM

not to change the subject or nothing but i spoke with butcher today, a friends friend and he said he couldnt smoke because of testing every month. so i was telling him about the surejel method and he told me that he knows all about making jello he said you make it with bone marrow and hot water . so i was thinking me being an avid deer hunter maybe next time i shoot 1 just cut a leg off and reach up in there and get me some boil it in hot water and bam no sugars or anything else added . what you all think silly or not ? i know someones gonna say gross so go ahead . i dont care im on probation and i will be looking at 5 years if i fail . i think it would be worth a try. straight jello from the source.

AeroTX

10-20-2006, 02:47 AM

You think it's worth the try? Your freedom? You are nuts, my friend! My buddy is on probation and has been for years and he smokes. He just knows when he can and can't. What are you on probation for my I ask, because his is for alcohol, so in turn, they test him for that, not marijuana most the time.Let me know how it works though.

skunk

10-20-2006, 04:22 AM

nahh i dont think i will go that far as to try it but it would be tempting to mix it with the surejel but really sounds nasty. but on the otherhand i do have 5 kids 2 biological and 3 picked up down the road somehow 14 years ago . so i will probably be willing to try anything to pass . i have only got drug tested 1 time in 2 years that i have been on probation i told them i do not drink and do not do anykind of drugs. but when they did test me they tested everyone there that day so i never know . i do drink the surejel every month before checking in but i wanna be confident i will pass when it happens again. and i tell you what this probation **** is ****** up have to be in my fin house at 11pm every night weekends 12am cant do anything including leaving the surrounding 3 countys.this **** just makes you wanna drink and smoke more. (asault) is the charges. and if i try the method i will let everyone know if it works , but as of now i smoke after the 1st of month when i check in till the 5th or 6th of the month and thats it .

msedna

10-23-2006, 12:24 AM

Ok Cincy, here goes. Tomorrow I am taking a drug test and I have already purchased the sure jel, it was $2.49 at the grocery store. I have read your directions and will follow them. I will post as soon as I know my results.

mengsbu52

10-29-2006, 12:47 AM

Okay, i may have a possible job interview sometime next week. my aunt is hooking me up with a job. she sed that they'll call me for an interview and then they'll test me for sickness and a possible drug test.

-the last time i smoked was 12 days ago. it was one cigarello.

-i am 6'0 226 lbs. a little over weighted.

-i have purchased a 3oz. strawberry jello branded jello.

-i cant find a 20oz bottled water. but i have a 1.5 liter empty pepsi bottle can i use this? just measure 20 oz. of water.

so mainly how long will the weed stay in my system? i havent smoked for more than a year before the one 12 days ago.

and can someone give me the directions for the jello water. and like does it matter if the water is too cold or not cold enough. or if it was shaken too much. or not enough. please help. if i dont pass this drug test my entire family will find out that i've smoked pot! please help. any help is appreciated.

thabongkey

11-08-2006, 11:31 AM

so i gotta a job interview an did tha certo trick would it work if they sent if off 2 tha lab i mean i dont wanna look dumb an have a lemon jello cub with my name on it that would totally **** balls considering my sister an brother haved worked there an my brother in-law works there im bring back tha sticky an im new 2 tha forum really wanna know a shurfire way 2 pass a u/a , cotton swap an maybe a hair ( hope not )

Bubba Bear

11-18-2006, 04:43 AM

drug testing is wrong.....I will agree that if you get hurt on the job then being tested is ok...but random testing to me is a violation of your personal rights......we have drug testing where I work...I never been teste yet but if I do I will fail.....LOL..be cause I have a bad back and have to take strong pain pills daily...my supervisors now about it and we are union and in our contract as long as your boss knows and you show you arent a danger and can still do your job safely and dont put you or others in a dangerouse situation then its ok plus you cant have more in your system than the doc has prescibed.......

86vwgti8v

11-20-2006, 11:56 PM

I just wanted to add,
I have tried certo on a few different occasions. Not once had I been fortunate enough to pass.
I do not know if there is a difference in certo and surjel, but certo does not work for me. I tried it both on probation tests and a recent test that got sent to a lab and nothing good. Tommorow I will be trien a product called stinger total detox. wish me luck.

GrewUp To ScrewUp

11-21-2006, 09:37 PM

Thats why its perfectnot exactly. if you look at the drama engulfing the North American Blunt's cousin the wild roaming Meth you can see a legal presendent. If this jello tonic becomes widespread itr will be blocked. You see I could go to a gas station looking for a large amount of products and chemicals. Even though they are all legal apart and most at times togethor if the police catch you with these items you can and most likely will be arrested or penalized. Now there are scenarios possible when you just might need the items that happen to be ingridients for meth and you are in cuffs. only so many coincidences are tolerated in the realm of the legal system. I suspect if too many testers show up with jelly in their tummies the jig will be up and you saying "I like jello, i like it.. a...lot.." want hold water.

And you know thats the thing about random drug tests, all the methods you concoct will always mostly fail because all of these things you think of take TIME and arnt anything you can really pull out of your pocket espcially if you are pulled right at that instance. the random drug tests you all are talkin about are the not so random kind.. -_-

just my two cents on this ragin debate..

GrewUp To ScrewUp

11-22-2006, 05:10 PM

so i take it no one can get around the issues i posed?:confused: I guess I "nipped that in the bud" excuse the pun..

laylow6988

11-22-2006, 06:51 PM

I have found for me that given 4 days I can pass a drug test just by drinking a lot of fluids. It worked for me many times. I don't like to do it. I mean, even now. I don't have anything to worry about, but I hate to take piss tests. It's degrading. I hope they find it unconstitutional to do testing unless given a reason to suspect to person is using. And I hope by time they do that they make pot legal. But, it's all hopes and dreams. Oh, I forgot to add... I think the 4 day method works for me due to a few things. I am very skinny, eat a lot(metabolizm is off the charts), and have a very high sugar intake. And I drink a lot of water and beer. Oh, and my pot intake is very low even when I do smoke. I hate to get too stoned, don't feel good. I like to just hit my pipe a few times and I am good for hours. 8th bag lasts over a month easy if by myself. That helps a lot I am sure. Last one I fail was a surprize. And I failed with a 42 or some ****. And they said it was very low. I guess around 10 is the limit. I am not sure what high is then. Because I was smoking pretty heavy about week before then due to high stress levels. And it was goooood!

GrewUp To ScrewUp

11-22-2006, 09:38 PM

if u thank u r so special and unable to relate to the general population of test takers why are you telling us this?

Professor bongwater

12-11-2006, 05:56 AM

Could someone please tell me the dry weight of the Sure-gel that is to be added to 20oz. of water? Out of curiosity I mixed 1 pack of jell-o (3oz) to 20oz. of water, ate and then drank another 20oz. of water. I tested my second sample with a home test and failed. I was unable to find "Sure-gel" so I am unsure of the weight of powder to add to the h2o.
Sorry if this was already mentioned I read all 13 pages and never found an answer to my question, so I am asking.
Thanx
Prof. B

AfricanHerbsman

01-09-2007, 02:02 AM

I was also wondering what the dry weight was. I have a pack of 6 OZ lime jello. Is this about the right weight?

ILoveWeed

01-12-2007, 12:30 AM

I've read all post on DT. I took my first pre employment test today and I waiting (very nervous). I took 2 niacin 500mg last night drank a crap load of water. I took 2 500mg this moring before interview and 750mg more an hour before test plus loads of water. I had a little color to my urine. My son in law was in the navy and this is how he passed his test. My Daughter has passed 3 test this way and her friend just passed this week using this method. I sure hope it works for me. I guess I'll find out tomorrow.

ILoveWeed

01-14-2007, 03:55 AM

:D Well I Passed! I was so nervous that it wouldn't work for me. They made me wait till late Friday, I start this week!:peace:

cincy boy

01-14-2007, 06:06 AM

surgel comes in a box the size of jello boxs and i dont no how many fl ozs ar in a moutain dew bottel but i think it 12 or 24

cyberquest

01-21-2007, 05:58 AM

anyone that ever used jello instead of sure gel ever poop jello cubes?? :rofl:

AKA-CBA

01-26-2007, 08:06 AM

Remember it depends on the person. The person was right; the chronic smoker up until the test is in trouble no matter what unless he has 3-4% body fat. Dr.?

thabongkey

01-30-2007, 06:31 AM

jello is ground down pork shoulder fat , only jellos up if it gets cold , i dont think any body i waiting for that mold what ever it is

skigod377

01-31-2007, 11:33 AM

You dont think that jellatin pee would tip them off?

Chronichols

02-04-2007, 06:33 PM

I hope This works,I got an interview coming up and I must pass the piss test. Wish me Luck.

djransom

02-06-2007, 02:39 PM

Hope this works I have a test anywhere from 1-4pm (CST) so... yeah... I have been worried sick about it for days. I didn't smoke yesterday so I think that will give me a little help...

Although I hear you should drink up to 2 quarts of something... also you don't have to use water you can use gatoraide or poweraide or anything really...

I think I am going to go with the water though. Thanks I am countin' on you guys... I think like maybe 3 people out of who knows how many failed tests so i think I will be alright. Wish me luck.:cool:

the_riz

02-06-2007, 11:14 PM

and the cool thing is, i love jelly lol...

pink puffer

02-25-2007, 02:58 AM

I have always heard about the certo and heard good things but never knew the how to's....thank you for your tips! I am a huge pothead and have been tokin up a few grams of chronic every day every night for the past 9 years straight. I have never had to take a drug test until today and PASSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! here's what I did...

Had last toke on wednesday...

Thursday and Friday I took a few extra daily vitamins and a few goldenseal pills...(I hear they don't work but hey I was freakin')and just ate light food like veggies and pasta and then worked out for a solid hour both nights and took a steaming hot bath afterward for 30 min(this makes you sweat, therefore relasing more toxins out) and drank about 8 glasses of water each nite and half a liter of cranberry juice. try to avoid alcohol some say it affects the way certo works...

Saturday (today)
8AM drank 2-3 glasses of water
930AM pissed to empty bladder
945AM took one pack out of the Certo and put it in a jug with lukewarm water and drank within 10 minutes
10AM drank a half liter of cranberry juice
11AM took the other pack and and put it in a jug of water (note: i put a few drops of yellow food dye in the jug as well to make my piss yellowish) and drank it
1111AM pissed again!
1115AM went to taco bell and got 3 tacos and ate...yum
1130AM pissed
1145AM drank a glass of water
12PM went to take the test and had to wait like 30 min
1230PM took the test (note: piss a lil bit before you piss in the cup since supposedly the piss is more potent at the beginning)
1232PM the nurse (i went to Care Now "the 15min test") did the test right there for me to see and some lines were more apparent than others but did not look too faint and she said I PASSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I couldn't believe it really. I am such a stoner. ha!

I am sure the certo would have worked just fine by itself but it couldn't hurt to cover the bases by drinkin cranberry and water (but not overdo it) Sweating and a few vits seems legit too. I was only gonna do the first pack of it but I figured what the hell...might as well... As far as how many times you piss...I don't think it matters as long as you start out with an empty bladder when you drink the sh*t. I dunno thats what worked for this pink puffer and now I will use this method forever!!!!!!!!!!!!! hey and I only spent like a total of 10 bucks.

Toke em up! Don't be scared! :D :D :D :D :p

pink puffer

02-25-2007, 03:05 AM

you can get Certo at Target on the bake isle with the spices and canning supplies. They had sure jell as well but its a powder...I think Certo is a lil easier on the gag factor. It really wasn't that bad...but I'm used to shooting vodka and tequila. hehe:D :D :D :D :o

drugsrkewl

02-26-2007, 03:30 AM

i smoked on friday the 23rd and saturday the 24th jus about 4 grams with the 2 days added i have a piss test on monday and im going to the store to buy sur - gel do you think it will work for me? i also wrote down on how 2 use it. and its for a job as soon as i pass they dont drug test no more. its also at a place called Lapcorp i jus hope i make it. u think i will e-mail me bak @ greyhounds42012@yahoo.com also thats my yim name and my aim name is igon2pistolwhipu any1 wanna chat about it jus holla at me.

pink puffer

02-26-2007, 10:33 PM

I think you will be fine...I have a lot of people that I know that use this method...I guess the only reason why you wouldn't pass is if the test was different or way more complex or you didn't follow the directions. I have read some threads where people say it doesn't work but they didn't do it right and used the wrong sh*t. GOOD LUCK!!!!!! Just make sure you dress nice and don't ask the nurse questions or look nervous. If you act like it's just another errand you are runnin' and you are laid back about it the vibes will be good and if the test is iffy. they will be more likely to pass you! I swear half of the battle is the mindset. (i know im a hippie) Hope you get the job! omg...I am such a stoner I just realized I didn't reply in time...for it is MONDAY.... sh*t. I still want to hear the results so....Whelllllllllllllll maybe this will still be helpful to all the other tokers out there.

let er rip:o :o :o :o :D

drugsrkewl

02-27-2007, 12:14 AM

well all i went to take the test 2day. but i dont know the results yet since they put it into a bio hazard bag and send it away 2 another place 2 be tested. hopefull with sur gel (nasty aftertaste) it will pass. and i didnt add sugar hope that didnt mess up anything jus put the surgel in a 20 oz bottle and drunk it then i drunk another 20oz of water right afterwards and i ate some greasy sausages, exactly 1 hour later (made sure it was right on the dot) i went in and took the taste i didnt piss into the cup at 1st i just used my midstream and i still had piss left but was trying to put as little as possible into the cup. all i know is it registered between 90 and 100 f but it looked kinda clear 2 me so i hope that doesnt mess it up. man they were strict though i couldnt turn on the water , or flush the toilet which had blue in it so i couldn use the water and she took the trash bag out of the room. and then she comes in and checks everything she also made me empty my pockets. but i hope this works and im tokin up 1 for all you guyz. BTW is sur gel in a yellow box? jus tryin 2 make sure i got the right stuff. so plzz reply bak if u think i passed..........!!

dimekiss

02-27-2007, 12:51 AM

hey got drug test next monday and smoked today do you think i will pass with sure gel and cincy boys way?

dimekiss

02-27-2007, 12:57 AM

hey drugskewl dude i hoped you pass after all that searching she did i would think you passed but someone please tell me if im ok for next week cause im nervous as ****

noelstoner

02-27-2007, 07:18 PM

use this method it totally works.....read this about 5 days ago i didnt smoke for 5 days used this and I passed!!!!!!!!!!!! niice thanks cincy boy i failed 2 in a row and this time i passed

dimekiss

02-27-2007, 11:46 PM

hell yeah hopefully it works for me on monday and since you only quit for 5 days im going to burn one yeehah

lilkris420

02-28-2007, 07:57 PM

im a hard core smoker i smoke like 7 times a day everyday.i was recently put on probation and my PO told me i will get tested everytime I come in to see him....i have read all the reviews and i trust the sure-jell all im worried about is since its a probation drug screen how long should i stop smoking before my test.i was thinking maybe 2-3 days before.let me know if thats smart and even if the sure-jell will work on a Probation drug screen

Thanks Kris

dimekiss

03-01-2007, 04:24 AM

hey lilkris i have the same thing a stick test and if all goes well then we should pass dude i hope to god or im going to jail

Walker1

03-02-2007, 10:23 AM

marcnh

03-19-2007, 04:54 AM

Sure way to pass a drug test - drink lots of cold water to dilute your sample. To add colour to your diluted sample take a b multi vitamin every two hours for a few hours before the test. I smoke all the time and I always pass, but then again I always know the day before.

DankCloset

03-19-2007, 03:31 PM

sonies #7 i think u can get it at health stores. all it is, is volcanic ash, brown bottle, white label, red lettering. you cant miss it if u find it, anyway the stuff looks like cum, taste like nothing, and is a little wierd to take. but let me tell you this. i smoke myself stupid. wait till that night, take the sonies, drink 20oz glass of water, take your morning piss, and your good to go. i've passed army u.a's, i did this my whole term pretty much. gotta be elevated :D

Edit: i used to get it at bi-mart, but the store around here stoped carring it, so i started using p-sure.

rebelhaten25

03-22-2007, 12:13 AM

These Will Work To I Did It For Po Ever Month
1.take 4 Vitamin B-compex Befor Hand To Make Your Piss Yellow.
2.have A Bottle Of Lemon-lime Gatorade Handy. Wash Those Vitamin B Pills Down With A Good Swig Of That Gatorade.
3.take (1) Certo Pouch And Empy It Into The Remaining Gatorade Which Should Be About 4/5 Full Still.
4.shake The Hell Out Of It.
5.down The Gatorade..all The Way Down The Hatch.
6.fill The Gatorade Bottle Bake Up With Water And Drink It Do That About Twice.
7.the Above Steps Should Be Done 2 Hours Before The Test.
8.make Sure U Piss At Lest Twice Before U Test.

The Certo Will Work Up To 4 Hours After U Drink The Certo.

Do Not Get The Foam Free

Its The Same Thing As Sure Jell But I Never Use Sure Jell Befor So I Cant Say It Works Th Same Or Not I Been Useing Certo For 2 Years Now And It Works For Me And These Is No Bull

Hash666

04-09-2007, 06:36 PM

DankCloset

04-09-2007, 09:04 PM

well i have to go pee for the p.o, iam using sur jel, i'll be doing it exactly like it was stated, i smoked a tiny snapper this morning. like a pinner roach hahaha. anyway i'll post the results, if not iam in jail haha.

Professor bongwater

04-09-2007, 10:32 PM

Good luck Dank!!

Sticky_Budz

04-09-2007, 10:47 PM

hey guys. well i have a problem. I want to smoke on 420 but i have to go to a physical around may 7th. What should i do. My parents are suspicious and they might ask my doctor if i have been smoking.Please help me. let me see if u smoke on 4-20 and have to go for a physical on 5-7 that gives u about three weeks so if u stop after 4-20 and drank water everyday til then that will fush all the toxins out of ya by then but if u cant stop smoking after 4-20 then that wont work lol good luck peace

Sticky_Budz

04-09-2007, 10:47 PM

Hash666

04-11-2007, 12:47 AM

I just bought 1/8. It seems pretty good because i burnt about 2 hours ago. I have school in the morning tomarrow. Their are two people at my stop that dont get their until 5 mins after i do. Should i bring some herb and burn behind a bush?

HydrO PasSiOn

04-11-2007, 06:34 PM

Hey Guys That Sure Jell Doesnt Work Man. I Had Two Of Them And Ate And Pissed Just Like You Guys Said And Still Failed My Drug Test. I Wouldnt Reccomend This Crap To No Body. If You Want To Pass Just Dont Use Drugs Or Just Buy The Exspensive **** That Rreally Works. Jelly Mix Doesnt Work Man.

Mase 3d

04-15-2007, 09:19 PM

Well I had been reading this thread for a while, i took my test last wed, and i did the Jello Method to a T as Cicny described, I dont know when i will know the results, i cant exactly call my PO and ask if i did well on my drug test, but she has a feild vist tomorrow and i think if i failed she will tell me tomorrow. So i am going to keep you posted.

Mase 3d

04-18-2007, 06:41 PM

Just got the call from my PO, Failed the test. So i guess the Jello method does not work for me.

warreng33142

04-21-2007, 05:32 AM

I Passed using The Directions Cincy Boy Gave Thanks Homie And It Do Work Using Jello

Mase 3d

04-25-2007, 06:20 PM

I Passed using The Directions Cincy Boy Gave Thanks Homie And It Do Work Using Jello

How long did you go not smoking? and was it PO test?

psychoactive

04-29-2007, 10:31 PM

I'm from the south and the sur-gel or cyrto method has always widely been passed around smokers for years and years. Yet recently I had a girl friend (just a friend) needing to pass a test and used the method, and failed. She was an avid smoker. I had used the method once also even a couple years ago and failed as well. It's not a 100% method to pass a drug screening. I wouldn't even give it a 75% score, I would most likely say it's about 50-60% depending on some factors. One factor is if you know a test is coming up 1-2+ weeks just stop smoking and drink 4+ 20oz bottles of water a day. Even then it's not 100% if you've smoked for awhile.

xaxcxixdx

05-01-2007, 10:58 PM

So I read this whole thread. I've got a screening tommorow. I took the take home test twice once yesterday and once the week before. It has been over two weeks since I smoked.

I'm confident that I am pissing below the 50ng/mL, but worried I may still break above the 15ng/mL.

I plan to do the water down method, without the sur-gel. Just wondering at what time should I take those B-complexes so that they show up in my piss? Any ideas.

cloud

05-03-2007, 11:09 AM

but do the results show any dilutiuon?

cloud

05-03-2007, 11:14 AM

but do the results show any dilutiuon?

Jackass9484

05-05-2007, 08:25 PM

I don't think they can tell if its diluted as your urine is made up of mostly water as it is. However your best bet is to just completely stop smoking, work out (if you have low body fat), up your fiber intake, drink a decent amount of water, tea, or juice, and if all else fails you can take a page out of my book. Take a gallon and a half of water and sit in a sauna for 5 hours at 1 hour intervals. That is if you have access to one.

FloydBanks

05-06-2007, 03:35 AM

b vitamins take a few days to work (from what i hear).. u should start taking them regularly to make you feel better anyway

xaxcxixdx

05-07-2007, 01:11 AM

I passed. And yes, as I had previously stated I had not smoked for 2 weeks.

Turns out the testing company only did the EMIT test first which I knew to be negative.

warreng33142

05-07-2007, 10:08 PM

How long did you go not smoking? and was it PO test?

2 weeks and it was a urine test for a job

bigDbudhead

05-09-2007, 02:08 AM

The Sure-Gel method may work for some on assay type stuff like emit, or the panel tests, but let me tell you, if they are running gc/ms you are completely screwed. The mass spectrometer does not lie and it is like finding a needle in a hay stack. Most companies will not spend that much cash, but if you are going to take a test for a government job, beware. Just stop smoking for awhile.

Weed_Man

05-15-2007, 09:57 PM

Besides prayer, what do you think can help me out here...

I'm a 6'1'' 210 lbs. male who smokes a **** ton. I smoke about three blunts a day, normally between about 3 guys. I've been smoking this much for about the past 7 months. I do play a lot of basketball though, so that should help me out I guess, lol.

I smoked two blunts today already, and then I found out I have to take a drug test tomorrow. I can take it as last as 4:50, so that's my plan.

Right now I have a Purified Instant Acting Complete Body Cleanser drink, and a few packs of Sure-Jell. This is my plan, and tell me if I need to add anything to it (like more water).

Tonight, drink the Purified Drink. I'm not sold on these, but since I have it I figured I might as well use it the night before. I'll drink a ton of water after it before I go to bed and piss a few times.

In the morning I'll piss and drink a lot of water all day. Around 2:30, I'm going to drink 20 oz. of water mixed with 3.5 oz. of Sure-Jell. Then I'm going to eat something greasy. After that, I'm going to piss. Following that, I'm going to drink another 20 oz., but I'm going to throw in a little esterfied creatine....

Then it's test time.

Tell me what you guys think.

bigDbudhead

05-19-2007, 01:30 AM

Weed man, I hope you came out fine bro. I have been in your place before, and it's nerve wracking, to say the least. I am 5'10'' with slightly overweight build, and I will tell you what has always worked for me in the past. GNC carries what is called Cleansing Formula. It is about $23. If you know you've got a test coming, take 3-4 every time you eat, drink green tea and plenty of water, and you will be clean in a week, I promise. If it works for a big guy like me, I know it will work for most people. Sure gel method is good in a pinch. I am the biggest pot head you've ever seen. I've smoked almost daily for the past 2-3 years, and I'm being modest. Been a pot head most of my life :)

Mr.pepper

05-19-2007, 08:56 PM

can you buy any jel instead or sur-gel that might work? cuz i cant find any here in asia, i'll have to ride a bus to possibly be alble to buy something like that.... anyway, pls reply... asap...

spook313

05-20-2007, 03:57 AM

i tried this method awhile back and failed. because of this, i violated probation and went jail because of it. apparently this method is not for everyone.

spook313

05-20-2007, 03:59 AM

btw, weedman, i always pass when i use the detox drinks. i heard that they don't help if you're over 180lbs though.

Mr.pepper

05-22-2007, 08:09 AM

can u use any other kind of jel? instead of sur-gel? need help! please!!!

Kindbud

05-23-2007, 02:35 AM

no way dose this really work no joke i have a test comin up in the middle of june i could use this but im not so sure any other people had sucess with this??

missmurder0us

05-24-2007, 05:49 PM

i have a probation drug test at 3:30, just drank the sur-gel about 20 minutes ago. i gots my fingers crossed, cincy boy i'm totally trusting you on this. if i fail i'll go to jail! i'll post the results after 4:00. wish me good luck everyone! :)