Out Door 12-24 plant limit 2015

Ok guys, so this is the beginning of my outdoor grow up in the mountains of California. I'm a bit away from the Bay this time around, but all the more freedom to do as I wish in the mountains. Although I plan on getting my indoor setup going here in the next few months, this will be my grow journal for my outdoor section. Due to this area, A lot of people apparently grow Illegally and get busted all the time. All the more reason why I am starting with my LEGAL 12 plant limit. However, Within the time I actually move them outside, my plant limit should be raised to 24, as 2 of my close friends want me as their care giver. With that said, here's to the good stuff.
Starting Line up:
2 X Cotton Candy, 2 X Frosty Kush, 2 X Ultimate Purple, 2 X White Grapes, 2 X CBD Griega Y, 2 X CBD OG.

In the months to come, I will pretty much double it to:

4 X Cotton Candy, 4 X Frosty Kush, 4 X Ultimate Purple, 5 X White Grapes, 3 X CBD Griega Y, 3 X CBD OG.

I Will be planting as soon as the seeds get here (purchased today) and I plan on growing under my little set up I've made in my closet. About a 2 1/2" X 3 1/2" Closet, which will in the beginning be under a small low wattage of floro that I got with my humidity dome (perfect for clones and seedlings).
However, from the months to come, I'll be adding a T5 4 tubed 8" setup I believe puts sout 10k lumens? I'll have to double check. But I'll keep them growing in here until late March to early April. Then, I will transfer them outdoors. PIcs for all of this soon to come.

Setup:
Ill be starting in 5 gal. pots filled a 50/50 mix of FoxFarm Ocean Forest, and Happy Frog. From months to come, I'll be feeding via nutrient water with the oragnic FoxFarm Hydro Formula.
I will keep this formula in a 40 gallon tote that is constantly airated with airstones, kept p.h.'ed and at room Temp. with aquarium heater. Then after certain amount of time has passed for the mixing, will water with this.

I will water with P.H.'d water only at first until nutrients in the soil are used up. From there, I will transfer into 20. Gal Pots and feed accordingly for the rest of their period.

I will post all of this process as I do it. Any constructive criticism is greatly appreciated.

mojo your way

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Hey I was curious, Ive put a huge trashcan under my gutter drain out from thew roof. And Although It seems like it'd cause disease, and wouldn;t be ideal to use, Wanted to get some others opinions? Its the water from the roof guters when it rains and drains into a big trash can. If I were to take scoops of this, to fill up a 20 gallon tote or so, threw some air stones with some p.h. adjustment, (add nutes if needed) and just use this water for watering my outdoor plants? I'd prefer not to do this, but were in a bad drought up here where im at, so if it'd be possible to use this water to save money and water in general? Just curious. Thanks. Pics will come when seeds arrive.

I think that is a great idea. Catching rain water has been happening forever. great idea, i think.

Haha thanks rose Appreciate always stoppin in! Can't wait till I get my seeds! Sucks because I'm hoping to get them within 5 days or so, and online is says a maximum of 28 days lol! I'm sure thats just the max to cover their butts, but I assume since the max is 28 days, it'll probably take 2-3 weeks... :.(

Ok guys! SUPER EXCITED!! Finally got my seeds in the mail on saturday! I believe 7 days from purchase!! NOT BAD! Any ways, I germinated them on Saturday as well, and planted into oasis cubes today. Oasis cubes have been soaking in sub culture-M root nutrient for 48 hours at p.h. of 5.8-6.0.

Although I am a bit disapointed to inform that the previous line up I expressed, isn't what I was able to get... As when it came time for purchase, half the strains I wanted, were now "Unavailable"... However, I'm still very pleased to show that the line up I picked out is still very satisfying to me.
As of right now, I only got 4 different strains (6 including the free bees) I got Frosty Kush, Sour Bubbly, Mendicino Purple Kush and CBD Critical Cure. As for the freebees I got "crazy Miss Hyde" and "ultraviolet Auto". I started germinating the strain "Crazy Miss Hyde" today. Will add her to the others in a few days.
All have popped and been transplanted today except for of course the Miss Hyde. I looked up the genetics of this strain and it seems to be along the line of what strains I like, Indica Dom. Hybrid.
Anyways, all of these are feminized seeds, and I plan on turning them all into mother plants, and will clone about 6 of each mother, let them veg in my floro set up 4x3x8 closet, until March or April, from which they will then be transplanted outside. Later this month, or next month, I will be buying 2-3 more CBD rich strains. I will add them to the mix in due time.

I will be choosing (random quantities) of each strain but putting only the best 12 I like outside. The rest will stay in veg until my plant limit is raised to 24, and from there I will add the other best 12 into my Indoor set up, or outside with the others. CAN'T WAIT!!!

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What are the organic Fox Farm hydro nutrients you mentioned?

Funny you ask, Apparently this is what is supposedly "Organic"
http://hydrobuilder.com/nutrient-tr...egps_FX14049&gclid=CML8ibe_2sMCFReTfgodxWwAUA

But after researching it a bit more, seems its not 100% organic after all... Oh well, apparently its mostly organic, but not 100%... Regardless, this is the stuff i've been using for years now, and I freakin love it! It may not be 100% organic, but good enough for me I suppose.

Only the Big bloom is organic. And not 100% organic, is, well, not organic. And they are not really hydro nutes. I found that the Big Bloom gets nasty in a DWC setup--it bubbles up like teas and coats the roots with gunk. My late SO liked this combo. He also used the Beastie Bloom, Cha-Ching, Open Sesame combo sometimes.

The Hemp Goddess said:

Only the Big bloom is organic. And not 100% organic, is, well, not organic. And they are not really hydro nutes. I found that the Big Bloom gets nasty in a DWC setup--it bubbles up like teas and coats the roots with gunk. My late SO liked this combo. He also used the Beastie Bloom, Cha-Ching, Open Sesame combo sometimes.

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Yup, ive found that out the hard way in the past. These nutes are kinda thick, and clog up nozzles and what not very easily. As for soil tho... MY LORD!! GLORIOUS!! My rule of thumb usually is General Hydroponics Nute Line up for hydro, and Foxfarms Nute line up for any type of soil .
Regardless, I love these nutes, don't mind if it's not 100% organic, it's organic enough for me and everyone I know .

Pretty baked, :stoned: , Did i read that right? These are for your OD? Do you plan to sex, clone, then put the clones out in a few months? Hella early if you're going seed to straight out! Gonna be giants if thats the case. Our weather is good enough though. I'd just worry of the early flower/reveg nonsense
mojo

ston-loc said:

Pretty baked, :stoned: , Did i read that right? These are for your OD? Do you plan to sex, clone, then put the clones out in a few months? Hella early if you're going seed to straight out! Gonna be giants if thats the case. Our weather is good enough though. I'd just worry of the early flower/reveg nonsense
mojo

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Nah not at all, especially in this area, the earlier you plant out here the more growth/yield I'm gonna get. (due to global warming season have been real weird.. my apologies for those I offend who don't believe in facts, but eh) Of course within reason... I most likely am going to put outdoor by late April. And I hope/expect them to be HUGE! Especially after an extra month or so of indoor veg growth. Regardless, Yes you read it right, these are for OUTDOOR! Not sure why that'd be surprising to you? Also, I am not sexing them... Or deciding their sex... they are ALL feminized seeds... you might want to actually read my previous posts rather then just a select few words within the paragraph... Don't mean to offend you... But, yes they are all clones that are going to be grown outdoors... Sure, seeds would be more beneficial, however I don't have the luxury of spending hundreds on multiple seeds..... Thus more efficient to make your own mother, and cutt unlimited supply of what ever you need... Sure the production might not be as big, but that's where you make up for it in plant limit, especially since it's outdoor... Thus instead of gaining an ounce or more per plant due to being from seed rather then clone... I could give a **** less when I could just clone 2 more plants to make up for the decrease plus some.. So I hope this answers your concerns, Regardless, I appreciate the constructive criticism as it always keeps me on edge, and thanks for the green mojo, can't wait for yall to see the outcome!

With that said here's an update, 4 days in from popping.

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EsC420PoT said:

I will post all of this process as I do it. Any constructive criticism is greatly appreciated.

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Dude, I asked a few questions. I too am in the bay area and asked a few questions with personal experience :chillpill: I'm stoned and reread your post again, and have still yet to see you say you are cloning and putting those out at a later date. Maybe I'm missing it :stoned:

All i said, and questioned, was from what I've experienced putting sexually mature plants out early in april is a pretty decent risk of them triggering to flower and having to reveg. Your plants will be mature by then. Doesn't matter how nice our weather is, the sun is still up for a limited amount of hours.

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ston-loc said:

Dude, I asked a few questions. I too am in the bay area and asked a few questions with personal experience I'm stoned and reread your post again, and have still yet to see you say you are cloning and putting those out at a later date. Maybe I'm missing it

All i said, and questioned, was from what I've experienced putting sexually mature plants out early in april is a pretty decent risk of them triggering to flower and having to reveg. Your plants will be mature by then. Doesn't matter how nice our weather is, the sun is still up for a limited amount of hours.

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Not sure why you feel I came across irritated with your response? If you misinterpreted my response then I do apologies, but all I simply said, was re-read my previous posts (in a nice manner) because every single thing you asked had been expressed by me in a previous post.. Nothing more nothing less... I am and always have been 100% Chill . To answer your questions again, I am plating outdoors in late April, early March... I am growing feminized seeds into mothers, then from there cutting clones, and letting the clones veg indoor until late April early March... As for the global warming thing, that wasn't directed towards you lol, I was just saying that in general as a lot of people I know believe its a myth... AS for the "Not doing seeds just clone route" I was also talking in general as most people are firm believers of growing all of their plants (especially outdoor) from seed. Where I am a firm believer of growing 1st generation clones. So I was simply throwing out my two cents to not only you but everyone who felt like saying something about that method. Lol, so ya I can see how it came across a bit conniving, but that was not my intentions, I wasn't trying to come at you sideways at all.

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I'm stoned and reread your post again, and have still yet to see you say you are cloning and putting those out at a later date. Maybe I'm missing it

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Dude... seriously scroll up lol! The first post...

"I like, Indica Dom. Hybrid.
Anyways, all of these are feminized seeds, and I plan on turning them all into mother plants, and will clone about 6 of each mother, let them veg in my floro set up 4x3x8 closet, until March or April, from which they will then be transplanted outside."

HEres another... from the one right before your response...
" Of course within reason... I most likely am going to put outdoor by late April. And I hope/expect them to be HUGE! Especially after an extra month or so of indoor veg growth. "

You are correct as I mistakenly said "late March to Early April" .... A typo... Meant Late April, Early May.. NOT MARCH, Woops. Those (at least for this particular area of the bay) is adequate time for veg and flower without the worry of flipping back and forth.

So yes.. Simple misunderstanding off of a typo.. However, I did in fact express everything else about the mothers, and clones.. sorry if you feel I was not "chill" but Al I said was simply read my previous posts as Ive mentioned it 3 times now and you still over looked it lol. It's whatever dude, I'm not trippin

Good Pineapple Express and Larry on rotation from last seasons harvest :stoned: :rofl: Missed those points completely in stoned scanning long paragraphs.
No worries, and wasnt intending my comments to come across weird either. Simple timing of the season is just what jumped out at me being local. Have had clones flip early and have to reveg and it isnt fun.
Good luck on the grow man.

As for your cbd question in the other thread, I grew a couple cannatonic last season and fed them the same as regular thc strains. I believe the higher cbd level is strain dependent, not the way we tend to them during the grow.

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Good Pineapple Express and Larry on rotation from last seasons harvest :stoned: :rofl: Missed those points completely in stoned scanning long paragraphs.
No worries, and wasnt intending my comments to come across weird either. Simple timing of the season is just what jumped out at me being local. Have had clones flip early and have to reveg and it isnt fun.
Good luck on the grow man.

As for your cbd question in the other thread, I grew a couple cannatonic last season and fed them the same as regular thc strains. I believe the higher cbd level is strain dependent, not the way we tend to them during the grow.

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RIght on bro! No worries, I think we both kinda came across in a manner we didn't mean to, all is good man. As for the CBD and nutes thing,That's what I figured, that it purely depended on the genetics of the strain. just wanted to be sure as these are new waters for me lol. And ya I feel ya on the revegging, the seasons have been really weird the past couple years.. But, I think it'll be fine. What time you usually plant yours outdoor? Thanks for the input!

Couple seasons back went out on 4/20 with non-sexually mature plants from seed that were 3-4 weeks old and they grew to be ten footers. Last year held off going out until end of May and they stayed around six feet. I use severe lst also from the get go. Might be going a bit different this year.

Previously went out 4/20 with clones and had one of 4 flip on me.

ston-loc said:

Couple seasons back went out on 4/20 with non-sexually mature plants from seed that were 3-4 weeks old and they grew to be ten footers. Last year held off going out until end of May and they stayed around six feet. I use severe lst also from the get go. Might be going a bit different this year.

Previously went out 4/20 with clones and had one of 4 flip on me.

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HM...Really weird that 1 clone would flower and not the rest..Sounds more like it might have been some shitty genetics.. Regardless, 4/20 sounds like a perfect time for me to plant outdoors, but from what you tell me, I can't help but feel a bit fearful of putting them out to early.. Especially due to the fluctuation of the seasons... I think I might switch outdoor at the beginning of March after all, just to be safe.

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Anyways, on to the update. I, to my disappointment, have found out that my sour bubbly strain Ive purchased was an auto flowering strain... I should have read more into the genetics before I bought, my own fault, but with that said, that means I now have 3 Auto flowering plants, Which at the moment are indoor, but will soon (within the next week or so ) be transferred outside. I also put them in 1 gallon pots, as since they are autos, I really don;t care to put them in anything bigger as I had no intention of growing autos... (my mistake..) So with that said, I will keep these 3 autos for myself.. 1 Auto flower was a freebee from the company I bought from called Ultra Violet. That and the Crazy miss hyde are 5 days old. I recently planted the autos including the regular strains into FF soil. All the ones that aren't Auto flowers, Frosty kush, Purp Kush, cbd Cirt. Cure, and Crazy Miss Hyde, are all in half gallon pots I would say? For the moment... They will in time be transferred into bigger pots. As for the autos, they are in 1 gallon pots, and will put them outside within the next week or so and they will stay outside until harvest (autos). The rest however, Will be under my small dresser set up for about another week, before I put them into the Veg room. 1, 4 tubed 5 ft. long T5 Floro set up until early April. As of now, I realized I had another seed of the sour bubly, (ordered 2 since I really wanted this strain not knowing it was an auto flower..) I was going to save the last one for another time, but since its an auto, I figured I'd germinate it and throw it out with the other autos. I currently added a 2900 Lumen CFL (soft white) for the added seedlings. I Put the CFL over the smallest/youngest seedlings, (as they need the extra growth) and kept my other lower grade floro under the non auto plants that are bigger than the others. The Sour Bubbly, mend. Purp Kush, Frosty Kush, and CBD Crit. Cure, are all 12 days from germination. Crazy Mis Hyde, and Ultra Violet are 5 days old.

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Ok guys, here's an update. Watering with un-nuted water with the P.H. of 5.8-6.0. The Frosty Kush, Mend. Purple Kush, CBD Crit. Cure and Sour bubbly, are all 15 days old. (The sour bubbly is severely stunted due to me moving it out doors for about 3 days when I found out it was an auto... Was to make room since I only had the 1 horizontal light at the time.) As for the Ultra Violet auto and The Crazy Miss Hyde, those are 10 days old. I as well, figured since this sour bubbly strain is an auto I'd might as well plant the other seed of it that I have. That is at day 1. So now I have the 2 sour bubbly autos, and the 1 Ultra violet auto. These will not be included in my 12-24 plant limit grow, these will be grown separately for myself as I never intended to grow these autos... So that leaves the 4 strains, Med. Purp Kush, Frosty Kush, Crzy Hyde, and CBd Crit. Cure, for my main strains of this grow journal. These will be made mother plants. I also decided to add another 2 CBD rich strains called, "CBD God", and "CBD OG". As well as another THC strain the infamous "Durban Poison" Pricey seeds here . These should be here in the next 10 days, and will be made mother plants to join with the previous 4. I honestly feel that these are growin a bit slow due to the soil mixture I put, I'm starting to thin k that there just might be to much clay in the dirt... I might transplant into pure 100% FF soil when I get my shipment in. Any constructive criticism is greatly appreciated, thanks.

Note* I did Want to ask as I've been concerned, but some of the leaves have been getting a bit wrinkled? Not sure as the P.H. seems on point, and the soil is just FF and Happy frog with a small touch of backyard dirt. Any suggestions? I water every 5-6 days or until soil is dry for about half an inch down. I do see that the bigger newer set of fan leaves seem to be fine and healthy, but the previous leaves are a bit bent? Could the soil of been to strong for the seedlings, but are now mature enough to handle it? Any advice is appreciated, Thanks.

Just added 2 tiny fans to help with the growth and air circulation.
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I uses FFOF and yes you need to put your beens/seedlings into light warrior before letting them get into FFOF. Like I said I only nute one time in veg, the plants can go 3-4 weeks feeding off whats in the soil. That being said I have a strain the I just put the bean into the FFOF and she just gets a mild tip burn, others will fry. The plants all look great, greenest of mojo to your grow