Autos, autos, autos...

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mistisrising

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This is my very first indoor room. The flowering room's dimensions are 30"x72", and it contains five 150w hps, a 180cfm exhaust fan, and a 12" wall mounted oscillating fan (yet unmounted). The veg chamber is about 30"x30", and I put the clones from this years outdoor into it. For them I have a 70w mh, that I haven't got up yet, and two fixtures for cfl's. Plus it vents directly into the fan, and gets fresh air from the flower area.

I've been chomping at the bit to see what these autos can do. I have 5 buddha white dwarf fem, and 10 of each of these- auto ak, auto white russian, diesel ryder, masterlow, low life mix, joint doc's mix, and lowryder 2. Germ so far is good, those eight empties on the end are two of each of the following; white dwarf, white russian, joint doc mix, lr2, and the low life mix. I'll let them sit there and keep watering until I need the room.

The clones are; milenium bud x skunk #2, kc brains' mango, hog, kali mist, ak x blue berry, big bud x blue berry, Roc (?), and bubble berry.

there's one of the main flowering setup, the other ones are in order three, five, and eight days from seed. Then the last ones are all at two weeks. Minus the pic of the clones.

The reason that I broke up the potting setup is that I want to see how they do in each type of container. The red cups will be transplanted when they show sex, the black round ones are 6" mesh bottom, and the ones in the back are the same bread containers that time4tokin is using in his grow, approximately 1.5 gallon. I would imagine that the ones put directly into the bread containers will do the best, but time will tell.

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Very nice setup you have. ;)
WOW you have some EXCELLANT STRAINS!! :cool:
Hope ya don't mind if I keep an eye on Your Grow!! :hubba:
 
GrandDaddyToke said:
Very nice setup you have. ;)
WOW you have some EXCELLANT STRAINS!! :cool:
Hope ya don't mind if I keep an eye on Your Grow!!
:hubba:

Don't mind if you do, I've been keeping track of yours, unfortunately, I haven't dropped a comment yet.:eek: I only have all these strains so I can figure out what two or three I want to mess with. From your grows I would have to say that the ak looks the most promising. I would add the lr2 to that since they are the biggest so far, but between two not breaking ground and two males already, I'm not sure how I'll like this strain. Certainly looks promising though.

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Day seventeen update: I was there today (yesterdays pics were from saturday). We have some sex showing! One female so far, a diesel ryder, and nine males that were all well formed at seventeen days. There are a couple more that I thought were male, but I'll be back in three days (day 20) and two days after that, so I left them in the flowering area. I was surprised to find a few spider mites when I got there, but I had this stuff from my outdoor called Garden Safe Insecticide. It's good for mites, aphids, etc., and it says you can use it up to the day of harvest. I would hope I have it under control by eight weeks from now, it was only noticable on a couple of them.

Pics: First is a pic of the males I kept. I figure if I'm gonna grow autos, it would be smart to keep the first males that show sex, and all five of these boys were balls out! Only the white russian and the joint doc's mix didn't have any to show sex. The next three are all three sections of my experiment; and obviously starting them out in the bigger pots makes a difference, but we'll see how the yields go I'm going to transplant the red cups into both the 6", and the bread containers to really compare the final outcome. Finally, there's a pic of the veg area with the males in the front. When I'm done separating the males I'll put the room into 12/12 to get some of this pollen on some hog, kali mist, and mango. The bubble berry might be interesting too, but it's an f1, so the next generation is gonna go ape shat on me. I'm not interested in the blue berry, but the bubble gum pheno will HAVE to be separated if possible. I freaking love that strain, I'm just worried because most of the bubble gum I've grown was f1, so it'll be harder to breed since the ones that show the right pheno will probably mix up again in the f2(3?), since it won't be stabilized. But what the heck, what else have I got to do? Anyways, I'll have enough to do with just one of the other mixes, so let me not get ahead of myself. Auto ak x everything I have!

For those of you that have grown autos before; how does it compute with you(s) that the smallest plant in the whole garden had hairs on it bigger than itself? I didn't have my optic, so no close up, but I'm telling you these friggin' hairs were sticking up a half an inch above the top head. I've never seen anything like it, of course I've never grown this type of strain before.

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YES The Auto's IMO are a GREAT pant to grow with their low maintenance and durable characteristics and fantastic rewards @ the end of the grow!! :cool:
This is a link to a Auto 4 strain grow I did a while back.
Not sure if you seen it yet but the Master Low was my favorite.
I wish I would have gotten seeds from that strain. :holysheep: What a DUMB *** I was!!
Here is that link to that grow you may find something of interest to you!!
I think it produced the largest yield I ever had!!

http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20531

:fly: AUTOS ARE THE BOMB :fly:
:joint: :bongin: :48: :ccc: :smoke1: :bong:​
 
Got into my garden this morning and did a little transplanting. I now have a sure 28 females collectively, and one male from all strains. I also have ten more plants still awaiting transplant, four of them are most likely males, and six more were still mysteries. I was really disappointed in the white russians, I only have one female. The other girls are; five eack ak and low life mix, four each diesel ryder and lr2, and three each white dwarf, joint doc mix, and masterlow. The six unknown are; four joint doc mix, and one each diesel, masterlow. So, best that can happen is thirty four females. Five of the seeds were fem, so really thirty one out of seventy. In actuality, considering the heat and low humidity problems, close to fifty fifty isn't all that bad. Oh, and I have one that I somehow forgot to tag when I transplanted today, so one mystery girl also (i think its an ak).

Pot size means the world, at least so far. Their sizes coincide with the size of the pots, and while the experiment will continue, I would expect the yeilds to follow suite. I am positive that next time I'll go with all big pots, and deal with the empty room in the garden when the males go bye bye. It'll just cost an arm and a leg in soil. I tried to re use a couple of pots that I pulled males from already, but most of them had roots all the way to the bottom, so I had to dump almost all of it anyway.

I went to town on the clones. The heat took it to them this week, so I trimmed 'em all up tight and pinched the heads to start 'em a branchin'. I'm hoping to get one seed crop with these auto males before the outdoor cloning starts, but it might be too tight. We'll see when they start kicking off some pollen.

Auto growers; About what time do the males begin to drop pollen? I'd like to have the girls in flower by then.

Edit: they sure do kick off some strange leaves (see pic 1). Besides the twisting, I have a couple of these with a single short digit. Strange looking...
Be back in a few days for another installment...

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Was there yesterday. I decided to condense the garden and shut down one of the lights to combat the heat for now. By the end of the grow, I should have gotten a stronger fan.

I did the last transplants, but there's still two that I'm not sure of. Looks like I could have thirty five females. Cross your fingers. Clones were responding great to the pruning. Should be transplanting them on day 25. We'll see what happens.

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wow big setup!! How did I miss this man! Gonna pull up a chair :D Looking good!
 
There to water today, took what I think is two more males out of there. Down to thirty three females, I'd say heat will affect your male/female ratios. With the one light off, temps were at 85f when I got there today. I can deal with that, but I need to get that bigger fan as soon as I can. When these puppies branch a little more, I'll need to spread them out a little, and the last light will be needed. Maybe I can supplement with some cfl's.

I was afraid of burning them with nutes, so I thought I would wait until they looked like they needed it, and I thought that I saw a little nute deficiency this time. I gave them 1/4 strength fox farm big bloom, tiger bloom, and grow big. I included the grow big since this is the first time I fed 'em. A few of them were getting pretty big. Two of the lr2 and two of the white dwarfs where the biggest.

Nothing about my observations concerning pot size has changed. From here on out, I'll put them all in the biggest pots to start and deal with the empty room. The females that were started in the bread containers are dwarfing everything else. Even the girls started in the six inchers aren't performing near the level of the others. And, the one's that got transplanted after showing sex are tiny compared to the others.

The outdoor clones are coming back with a vengeance. They look as if there's a growth spurt coming. I may need to move them somewhere else soon, there's no room to do any cloning here. But, I did my job keeping them alive throught the winter.

The photos are; all the girls; all the boys; a boy close up; a white dwarf close up; the same white dwarf; the veg area.

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I want to make seeds for sure, actually I'd like to make seeds from all the strains, but I may miss one or two. I only have one female out of the white russian, so I'm on that one, and I figure I'll cross the ak with a bunch of stuff. The lr2 actually look the most promising.
 
Watered and fed a little more today. Still only half strength nutes, although I think they responded well to the last shot. Next time I'll hit 'em with a little molasses and check the ph.

A little bud porn for ya this time. I have a shot of the three biggest plants, and their top heads. Plus a shot of the veg chamber.

Luckily for my harvest, all the little ones seem to be coming along nicely. Six weeks (or so) to go, and from the previous growth, I'm psyched to see how this turns out.

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Just a pic update. I was there to water and feed yesterday, and all looked good. They don't seem to be having any averse reaction to the nutes, and I think the food is bringing the little ones (transplants) along real well.

I found that two of the still unknowns' finally showed sex, female. So I have thirty five females now. Once I found that, I decided that the unknown transplant could become my breeder. I think it's an ak (which wouldn't suck) but I'm not sure. I have a picture of the top head, it's the one with the brown hairs, i would imagine that it means some of them have picked up some pollen. Now I'm just waiting until they drop their collective loads in these plastic bags here, and i'll be off to paint the town, or a few bottom branches.

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I am really curious about these auto strains because I am considering sneaking a few into my veggie garden next summer :)
 
Yesterday was five weeks, and everything looks good. I may drop the grow big next time, I'm used to keeping the N out of the mix late in the game. I may just reduced the amount, I'll have to check the other nutes and see what the N content is. They are taking the half nutes well, but I don't think I'll move it up on all of them. I might try to move up to full strength on half and see how the reaction is. Three quarters even.

As you can see from the pics, five weeks equals trichromes! That is amazing to me, I've never seen development like this. I'll save the updates for weekly now since we're down to the main event.

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Everything is looking really good so far. The only probem is that I must've contaminated some of the flower room with pollen. I figure that I did it with my hands or clothes because most of the females seem to be unaffected. At least I'll have more than a few seeds for future grows. I should be able to keep them viable for at least a few years.

The pot experiment might as well be considered over. The deal is that it doesn't matter whether you start them in the smaller pots or not. All the plants that were started in the bigger ones, or were transplanted by the twenty first day of their lives into the deep pots are all in the ballpark of each other size wise.

The clones are barely making it through the three day stretch I need to take between waterings once in a while. I just don't have enough room to repot them into bigger containers, but they really need it. My buddy will take them at the end of january, and I can't wait to get them out of the way. Of course that means that we'll almost be ready to put them out again next summer.

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