Toker's Outdoor Bagseed Grow

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Whats up toker, those little bud burrowing caterpillars are the culprits. I had to dig a couple out of my buds not long ago. They will eat the flowers from the inside out and leave them brown and dying. If you see the silk dig around a bit and you should find it. Stay vigilant.
 
Well i've been finding the little silk nests...Out of all the web's i've dug thru i've only seen one wiggly lookin' worm...9 times out of 10 it's itty bitty spiders...I'd thought it was mites, but i don't think i could see mites this easily...But i'm afraid i might have a Mite prollem also :(, i'd noticed one big clump of silk right on a branch where it splits...I've applied a 3-1 fungicide/miticide/pesticide organic garden solution to 'em last night, hopefully that'll take care...I'd noticed more bugs today tho, but some beneficial, saw one lady and one praying mantis(wasn't on 'em, but right behind it )...But how big are these caterpillers ya speak of??? Another thing i noticed today, on the under side of a leaf there was eggs(i think) ...I first thought it was a caterpiller or worm...But it was harden like eggs i had scrape off, like they were hardened or somethin'... It looked like this ::::: ...A bigger dots, but like 2 rows of 4 or 5 right together stuck on the underside of the leaf...I HATE BUGS!!!
 
Old Hippie said:
Lookin Good Man! are they flowering good yet? if so try some bloom burst by Expert Garden, or one with a very high middle #. they look healthy tho, to be in small pots. I have one in a 25 gal. pot and its doing ok. but my roots have grown thru the holes in the bottom of the pot and into the ground.
good luck man.:48:

I started MG Bloom Booster at the first sign of flower...it's a 15-30-15 ...I wish i could find somethin' bigger than 5 gal....We need a Home Depot around here bad...It's like an hour 1/2 drive to the closest one...but thanks for droppin by hippie...Hope my nugs start swellin up like yours :D
 
Here's an Update...The first few pics i tried to get of the bug damage...

ENJOY

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cant say i see spider mite damage. something i left out in pm was they on the leafs they show like white dots very few at first, then as the infestation gets worse more dots the dots i think are spots the mites take a nice chomp out of your leaf, i could be wrong on that as im not a mite specialist but from my observations thats what i noticed the best first sign is the white dots. anyways i hope that pesticide works out for ya let me know how it works? and how much was it?
 
ps thats funny the second one in the ground looks alot like mine only a bit healthier as im busy with indoors and just kinda let nature take care of it. have you ever put one of them 5 gallon monsters in the ground need a big bag of soil, and a big hole huh?
 
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hey tn toker420 is this the stuff u got? its the exact stuff i use on mine an seems to do the job in combination with the moth balls i lay all over round the women...
but like i said in my pm to u disclaimer type thing. i am a newb still but yet i do use this exact stuff once a month only as my bugs not too bad but other than timely use i use as accordin to instructions on bottle. so if urs are affected negatively please dont hate me bro. it worked an still works for me wit no probs.
anyone else use this an have good or bad results its an insecticidemiticide and fungicide all in one i get it at wal-mart under ten dollars i use bout 3/4 bottle on 13 plants each dose
 
yup...that's it zip ...let's hope it goes as well w/ me...I'm gonna try to find some mothballs for pretty cheap real soon too...And Toke, i've thought about it alot, really wish i could...But my ground's just so unpredictable i'd never try to dig that big of whole...I did however consider 'tubing' it in the ground, by just cutting off the bottom, and digging a whole for the bottom half of bucket...I'd stress them way too much if i ever tried to transplant, after they get into those 5 gals they shoot up pretty big really quick, so i usually just pick which i want in ground and keep in 1-2 gals for a couple weeks longer than the buckets...I'd say i could properly transplant one of those right now if i had maybe a couple extra hands, but it's not worth the risk :D ...i got enough to worry about as is ...thanks for droppin' by folks, i'll try to get an update in the next 2 days i'd say...
 
oh yeah, i've definately identified mites in the garden too...such a bummer i tell ya if you don't know...I don't have any magnification, so it's possibly an aphid prollem, but idoubt it...there's a supposed Aphid infestation of hackberry tree aphids or somethin like that goin on right now...but who knows, i'm gonna take care of whatever it is...I've got some tobbacco tea soakin' right now...And i'm on my way to hit 'em with the 50/50 iso solution too...
 
How often have you been using the mg bloom boost?

I've been using it every 7 to 8 days without any problems just wanted to check and see if it was giving you any problems?

a lot of people say not to use mg nutes!
But they really haven't gave me any problems at all....
 
read this i stopped using miracle grow before i read this but wish i didnt use it know. this is text taken from greenmans grow guide, under kales grow guide under plant food and nutes. now i grow all organic peace.

Tobacco grown with potassium nitrate burns better. Plant foods with PN (P2N3) are foods such as Miracle Grow. This is an excellent fertilizer for vegetative growth, or through the flowering cycle as well. Consider however, potassium nitrate is also known as Salt Peter, and is used to make men have less sexual desire or impotent, such as in mental institutions. So if certain plants are destined for cooking, you might use Fish Emulsion or some other totally organic fertilizer on these plants, at least in the last weeks of flowering.
 
toke@smoke420 said:
read this i stopped using miracle grow before i read this but wish i didnt use it know. this is text taken from greenmans grow guide, under kales grow guide under plant food and nutes. now i grow all organic peace.

Tobacco grown with potassium nitrate burns better. Plant foods with PN (P2N3) are foods such as Miracle Grow. This is an excellent fertilizer for vegetative growth, or through the flowering cycle as well. Consider however, potassium nitrate is also known as Salt Peter, and is used to make men have less sexual desire or impotent, such as in mental institutions. So if certain plants are destined for cooking, you might use Fish Emulsion or some other totally organic fertilizer on these plants, at least in the last weeks of flowering.

the salt peter thing... that would suck. eat a couple brownies wit ya girl thinkin ya two gonna get high and get sexual and hit that "deflated" speed bump... lol... yeah i'd go wit wat u said and go strictly organic on ya grow tn toker its ur grow and urs only so why take shortcuts for "urself" its ur weed man treat it as ya like tho.. but i doubt u can really go wrong anywhere doing strictly organic tho....
 
tn_toker420 said:
yup...that's it zip ...let's hope it goes as well w/ me...I'm gonna try to find some mothballs for pretty cheap real soon too...And Toke, i've thought about it alot, really wish i could...But my ground's just so unpredictable i'd never try to dig that big of whole...I did however consider 'tubing' it in the ground, by just cutting off the bottom, and digging a whole for the bottom half of bucket...I'd stress them way too much if i ever tried to transplant, after they get into those 5 gals they shoot up pretty big really quick, so i usually just pick which i want in ground and keep in 1-2 gals for a couple weeks longer than the buckets...I'd say i could properly transplant one of those right now if i had maybe a couple extra hands, but it's not worth the risk :D ...i got enough to worry about as is ...thanks for droppin' by folks, i'll try to get an update in the next 2 days i'd say...

i was close on the colors of the bottle tho lol
 
The worst part is that Salt Peter is made using urine and feces. its also one of the main ingredients in black powder :D in the military supposedly they put it in the Gatorade like stuff for basic training to keep guys from having erection problems after weeks of no fun. :D
 
after i read that on greensman i had to look into it more and sounds like i read some of the same stuff as you elven. man or your using jedi mind tricks to read my mind haha.
 
toke@smoke420 said:
after i read that on greensman i had to look into it more and sounds like i read some of the same stuff as you elven. man or your using jedi mind tricks to read my mind haha.

I actually learned about it in the millitary. They made us drink 3 glasses of the "basicaide" with every meal. tasted like watered down sports drink.
 
That's horrible to hear actually ...But the truth hurts...That's funny, as i actually live relatively close to a salt peter cave :D ...But i use to the Bloom on a 7 day schedule...And compost tea throughout the week until time for fert...But occasionally i've still been giving them a half-strength dose of regular MG every now and then...They seem to like it :D ...But i dunno if lil man likes the idea or not ...So are we talkin' like long term damage??? or just for the meantime till it gets outta my system..??? i dunno why i'm even asking, it's not like i've got any plans ...But i'll stop about 21/2-3 weeks before harvest, and flush the crap out of 'em...But as i've actually heard that seeds cause impotence, which may be another MJ myth...i could go check but i'll never get around to doin' what all 'needs' done...but i appreciate the input about that...Can someone further explain the PT content and such...Also if i stop the MG, then they have no food except the compost tea...I have no resources except wal mart, which has a very limited stock in this little bitty town...
 
Well i've used M/G for the last six years, and i dont have a problem banging my wife! LOL i'm a Mature male (old)LOL, and I still get a good stiffy when Its time too.:hubba: any who, I like my big plants, and i owe it to M/G and super Thrive. Good luck man with your plants.
PEACE:48:
 

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