Does anyone else find this outrageous?

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hxxp://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/index.ssf/2011/02/ready_to_edit_evan_emory_suppo.html

In case anyone doesn't actually want to read the article what it's about is a 20 year old michigan man going into a 1st grade class room video taping himself signing a kids song. Then later without the knowledge of the school he edited the video to make it seem like he was singing an inappropriate song. Some of the parents of those kids found out and now this 20 year old is having criminal sexual conduct charges brought against him with a potential of spending up to 20 years in prison.

Does anyone else find this to be a joke and a waste of tax payers money?
 
No joke. This man is sick for planning this. What is his next plan if he was not caught? Maybe something more sick? Why should he be excused? What he did was twisted and perverted against small children, using them for his own pleasure in a pornographic way.Prior to his arrest Monday, Emory told WOOD-TV 8 he deceived school officials because if he would have told them what he planed, “they would never have let me do it.”Muskegon County Prosecutor Tony Tague said what Emory did by posting a YouTube video of him apparently singing sexual explicit lyrics to a Beechnau Elementary School classroom last month is “disturbing.”It was also criminal, Tague said.“The bottom line in this case is that he walked into a classroom and took advantage and victimized every single child in that classroom,” Tague said. “This case is very disturbing to law enforcement officials. We have launched a full-fledged investigation with the sheriff.”Tague said Michigan law “provides penalty” for those who actually manufacture child sexual abusive material “but also has a provision for those who make it appear that the children were actually abused.”
 
Those children were harmed in no way sure it was a stupid inappropriate joke but I would not say criminal. He didn't actually sing the inappropriate song to the children and just the illusion of doing such a thing in my eyes isn't a criminal act. That law was to prevent child porn and sure he made it seem inappropriate but it was by no means child porn. Even if he had gone into the class room and sung an inappropriate song in front of those kids he wouldn't deserve as sever a sentence as the prosecutor is attempting. Everyone makes mistakes and this kid doesn't deserve to spend even a few years in jail for something like this.That's what's wrong with our justice system. Putting a kid in prison who isn't a hardened criminal is putting him in a situation that could make him one.
 
So any adult who likes little children in sex way can make movie with your child in it that shows him doing sex things? Saying sex things? As long as child is not in room it is ok now with you?This is 20 year old man. He no child. He plans sex song showing real children in movie. This is sick. This man will not get big time in jail, they now know he sick and will use this sickness to watch for a long time.Very good this man got captured by policeman. He would not be caught and then he does more? Next time with live child in his sleeping room?He will be very happy it not my child. In my country, he would not live to night time for doing this.----ibong talks almost no english. He tells me and I put it here. I say nothing. This is ibong words. I see ibong every week or so. I will help him speak then. I am ibongs friend.
 
You clearly don't know anything about this guy if you look him up on youtube he has all kinds of musical stuff he does and all kinds of jokes. This is just a joke gone bad. This mean is no child molester he simply thought he was being funny and as it turns out it was inappropriate. How many people have gone a little too far when trying to be funny. This is not a criminal act. I don't want to start throwing around insults here but you make me sick. Have you never made a mistake in your life? This hurt no one and it was simply meant as a joke it wasn't ment to be used in any sort of pornographic way.
 
ibong says you no answer him. If your child was put into movie with man who sing sex things, that is ok with you? Your little girl child or boy child in movie looking like little child likes sex with man?Answre this for ibong. He says you are sick of ibong if he asks question? Why is that? Is ibong question no good here?What is your feeling if your little child in this movie? Movie will travel into many sick man seeing. Some look in sex way to child. This man helps them if he wants to or not want to.ibong says you will be sick man if you make this ok.
 
I'm not saying I would be ok with this happening to at my kids school but I don't think this dude deserves prison time for this. it wasn't meant to be pornographic and it's not pornographic it's inappropriate but not criminal. These children were reacting to him singing kinds songs to them. Then he made the poor choice to edit it in the way he did but he doesn't deserve to have to pay for a stupid mistake that hurt no one but the parents ego for the rest of his life
 
ibong say you still not give him answer to question he says. If you have little girl or boy and next year this song in sex movie all over world, how you feel then? You show sex movie to little girl your own? She is star in movie becauce bad man makes sex movie only can becase this man fool everyone to make it first. If push man on bridge to make joike and man bump more man who fall from bridge then first man cause death of last man. It make no big deal it was joke first. Man is dead now.Little girl and boy now in sick movie. No take that back. Now sick sex mans all over world can use this mans joke as sex with child. Man very wrong to make this. Very wrong. No jail long time wrong. Just on paper now to make sure he is not also sex man with child. He learns lots from this wrong thing he does.ibong says that is all he can say now. He hope that you know how he thinks of this bad thing. He say he sure you no want your girl child or boy child to be in movie like this.
 
I never said I would want that but to be honest sending this man to jail for this is wrong. This kids were not hurt and won't be even if this video is spread all over the world. Tell me do you remember a single thing from when you were 6? no and even if these kids weren't hurt in any way. I understand what you are saying I just believe that you are wrong in your thinking and believe that sending him to prison is too sever a punishment for what he did and it's making a mockery of the united states judicial system in my opinion.
 
now you say you not want your girl child or boy child to be in sex movie. What if man do it and not care what you want? How about your little girl or boy child is in sex movie? it be diffrent tehn maybe?Now ibong want you to say what you do if man fool you to put your girl or boy child into sex movie? He say he ask 3 time now and you not say. ibong say that makes answer with you silent. you want man who push first man to just go home no matter how many he harm in string to others.Bridge no place to play joke.Little girl child and boy child room at school no place for joke.Sex about childs no joke. childs no belong in sex joke. Not good. Very bad.I tell ibong we do this some more other time. it take me long time to make english this way.bye bye now for new day.
 
It is not a sex movie! it was a movie made as a joke and these children were not put through any sexual acts this man deserves no punishment. If they want to sue him to take it down then go right ahead but since its already been taken down that would be pointless.
 
omg Ibong are you serious? :doh:


Joke gone bad....


While you are arguing about some jokester NOT making child porn there ARE child porn and rape and molesting and murder going on so just get over it...

Friend of Toa say:

Dont just raise awareness....make a change!
 
So iBong, we're gonna say that this smiley is you

:hitchair:

Now since the smiley getting smacked is you, and I am the smiley smacking you with the chair, should I go to jail?? By your logic I should, because you are saying that crime is what is presented to the world on surface level, rather that what has actually taken place. So I have presented to the world that I am the chair wielding smiley and you are the beaten one, am I to be drug away?? Of course not, because that isn't what happened. Just like horror movie directors shouldn't be arrested for murder, even if they goaded a naive young actress into being drenched by far more fake blood than she would have ever agreed to up front. Much like our justice system doesn't work on coincidental evidence, because appearances dont mean crap if they aren't whats really happening.

Next you say that he should be locked up because to even think of making a dirty joke with kids in it will inevitably lead to child pornography. This is the most ridiculous line of thinking ever, basically invoking thought police. That means I should be locked up for wanting my smiley to beat you with a chair, because that thinking will inevitably lead me to Mansonesque murders. That means if you ever get cut off in traffic and yell damn you, you might as well go hang yourself, cause who knows where the road starting with cursing people to hell will lead, but the road has to involve genocide at some point, certainly deserving of the death penalty...

Now if you want to try to be logical, which it looks like you really want to do but are flailing in the wrong direction, push for him to be sued for defamation of the little children's character, because they were prolly laughing along to what ended up looking like a twisted joke, making them appear to be twisted little kids to laugh along. Now that is worth considering.

And would I want my kids subject to this, no of course not. But I'm also not silly enough to want a man to go to jail for this. I would never approve of this, but it would also take nothing more than an apology to fix the situation as he is just a young guy tryin to think outside the box and has gained much experience about when to stay in the box in what im sure is a humiliating process.

edit: spelling...
 
blancolighter said:
So iBong, we're gonna say that this smiley is you

:hitchair:

Now since the smiley getting smacked is you, and I am the smiley smacking you with the chair, should I go to jail?? By your logic I should, because you are saying that crime is what is presented to the world on surface level, rather that what has actually taken place. So I have presented to the world that I am the chair wielding smiley and you are the beaten one, am I to be drug away?? Of course not, because that isn't what happened. Just like horror movie directors shouldn't be arrested for murder, even if they goaded a naive young actress into being drenched by far more fake blood than she would have ever agreed to up front. Much like our justice system doesn't work on coincidental evidence, because appearances dont mean crap if they aren't whats really happening.

Next you say that he should be locked up because to even think of making a dirty joke with kids in it will inevitably lead to child pornography. This is the most ridiculous line of thinking ever, basically invoking thought police. That means I should be locked up for wanting my smiley to beat you with a chair, because that thinking will inevitably lead me to Mansonesque murders. That means if you ever get cut off in traffic and yell damn you, you might as well go hang yourself, cause who knows where the road starting with cursing people to hell will lead, but the road has to involve genocide at some point, certainly deserving of the death penalty...

Now if you want to try to be logical, which it looks like you really want to do but are flailing in the wrong direction, push for him to be sued for defamation of the little children's character, because they were prolly laughing along to what ended up looking like a twisted joke, making them appear to be twisted little kids to laugh along. Now that is worth considering.

And would I want my kids subject to this, no of course not. But I'm also not silly enough to want a man to go to jail for this. I would never approve of this, but it would also take nothing more than an apology to fix the situation as he is just a young guy tryin to think outside the box and has gained much experience about when to stay in the box in what im sure is a humiliating process.

edit: spelling...
hu hu, ha hu hu, ehh ehh hu hu, he said Mansonesque murders, ehh hu hu.
 
trillions of atoms said:
While you are arguing about some jokester NOT making child porn there ARE child porn and rape and molesting and murder going on so just get over it...

!


I sure hope I am misreading this because it reads VERY badly for you.
 
JCChronic said:
I sure hope I am misreading this because it reads VERY badly for you.

It doesn't read badly imo, He is saying to stop making a fuss over someone making a joke and look at the people who are actually doing wrong. Nothing wrong about that.
 
I'm going to weigh in with iBong on this one. The guy has a serious lack of morals and deserves to be punished for his actions. As responsible citizens, one must think before one acts.

Unless he got signed releases from all these kids' legal guardians before posting this video for the world to see- I would advocate those parents sue him; He is unneccesarily putting those kids in danger.


Here's a perspective twist for you-

Hey isoman- that video of you singing songs with all those homosexuals and singing about the things you do to each other- that was a riot! Or was it the one with those white supremists and the racist songs you were all enjoying. Different perspective, yes? What if we show that to a group of gay bashers or perhaps some militant ethnic groups- what happens then- you tell them it was a joke and you weren't really singing those songs? Good luck with that. (No offense meant, just providing an illustration).

Unfortunately, the world is full of some very sick people. Knowing some pedophile can see these kids, and perhaps acting upon the urges, is putting people in danger that no one has the right to do to another.

He wants to go jump off a building and hurt himself for a laugh (a la Jack-azz)- more power to him.

But if it was my kid, I might not wait for the courts to deal with him.

But that's just my perspective. No offense meant.
 
I would not say it was a good idea but it was a video of him singing a song to a class of kids. It showed them smiling and giggling, nothing else all fully clothed and un-harmed. Im sorry but i have seen worse things on MTV.

A 20 year jail sentence for this is just ridiculous when there are real real rapists and child molesters out there that they should be more concerned about.

When he was told to remove the video he deleted it. He is stupid but not a criminal IMO
 
The way I see it is, the guy has a demented sence of humour but he didn't actually harm anyone. Take the video down, let the guy reap the public humilliation he richly deserves, maybe even confiscate his video camera and guitar, but jail time for this is just rediculous.
For the people supporting him getting jail time considder this, with the budget shortfalls all states are facing, everytime a new person goes to jail,someone else gets early release, maybe someone who commited a sex crime against a child. Is it really worth the trade off ? Do you really believe we'll be safer as a country.
Make him march up and down main street with a sandwich board proclaiming his stupidity, make him clean toilets at a homeless shelter, something creative, but jail should be reserved for people who are an acctual threat to the general population, not people who are just plain stupid.
 

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