Real test.

( I live in new England)

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As do I Hello fellow NE'er :ciao:

Will get a good list going when I can.. I know I said that, just time has been fickle for me.

:ciao:

Dr. Green Fang said:

As do I Hello fellow NE'er :ciao:

Will get a good list going when I can.. I know I said that, just time has been fickle for me.

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what do you think about chemdawg. It's in our top three list found some good prices too.

Wonderful! I love Chemdawg!

Now, let's make sure you get as good of a breeders Chemdawg as we can possibly find you. Today, I'm working on a full floor install (wood / carpet / etc) in my dads room, so I'm checking periodically. I haven't forgot about you, I willllll bring you a full list hah

Chemdawg.. good one

Okay slower dry. I finally got to test that sample I took. Def better than the last one real mellow high still, but coming more to the body instead of just sitting in the head. I slept really good last night I'll tell you that much and it helped my back a quite a bit too. It's def a fruity blend too. So I think yet another two weeks.

I've altered a variable that had made the bud start puffing out more, the calyx's are starting to swell all at the tops. Mostly cloudy.trichs still no amber.

Will be updating this with a list soon. (Just shot you a PM)

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Curious, if you want to do 4 at once, just know the equipment (mostly lights) needed for them ends up increases your total INVESTMENT. Remember, this isn't a cost that you'll never get back. This is the gift that keeps on giving! Your tent should work just fine for a long time, depending on the zipper. The lights will last 50,000 - 100,000 hours. The fan should last many years, and the filters are good for 2-3 in MY experience. Some say replace once every 1-2 years.

Also, how are you for neighbors and strangers around? I'm curious EXACTLY how stealth you need to be. Everything will be contained to that one room, so just keep em out and you're good, but we'll have to consider where to put your exhaust from your 6" fan ducting. (just like the ducting you use for your clothes dryer)

Ok.. 4 plants is the final answer? This will be a 4x4x7 tent, with a large(ish) fan and filter, and twice as much lighting than for doing 2 plants, obviously. With LED, each plant is getting its own direct light, and then you'll have the lights footprints overlapping, and this makes for one excellent foot print. You'll have a setup veryyyy much similar to me. I just have more than one tent :aok:

Here we go. Understand that if you want to flower 4 plants at once, it's going to cost you 4x more than you were initially thinking. $600 is a bit too low to start up with 4 plants, unless you want to really cut corners and under light / under ventilate. I will never suggest that though, so here it is for what it's worth. You can 1/2 the size and 1/2 your yield but 1/2 your cost to any of this. Maybe a smaller tent, less lights, less vent and you're on, but .. if the goal is 4 then the investment goal is higher as well. :aok:

Seed strain(s): $??(depends)
Cali Connections - Larry OG I haven't run this one, but manyyyyy of forum goers can vouch for it. I have some Larry crosses in my genetics bin that I will be dusting off quite soon.

Cali Connections - SFV OG Kush This is the original OG Kush, I do believe. Or at least one of the most famous and used to breed with. Again, nothing I've personally run.. here I'll get some strains I've personally run

Delicious Seeds - Cotton Candy Hands down, best all around as far as growing health / yield and very decent potency. I've run this one a few times, and it will get its time to shine again very shortly.

Delicious Seeds - Critical Sensi Star This is a strain I got as a clone from a friend in another state. Extremely impressive.

Now, with Attitude Seedbank, I read some people saying they don't take credit cards anymore because of a technical difficulty. I've had great dealings with them in the past and have ordered about 7 times. I was going to send you links from Single Seed Centre, but their website is down....that's new.
We'll worry more about strain after this list. Moving on

Lights: $173 each x 4 = $692 free shipping, discreet packaging, and I got mine in 2 days.. I bought 8 fixtures at once.

Purchase 4 of these units. Mars II 400w. (I'll always recommend LED's) These are actually 180w draw, just listed as a 400w as they are trying to hit the market of the hps 400wer's which they directly compete with.

Ventilation: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Phat-Filter-24-500-CFM/dp/B00598HBQ4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440951999&sr=8-1&keywords=phat+filter"]6" Phat Filter $113[/ame] + [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Hurricane-Fans-435-Inline-6-Inch/dp/B006Z1JLY4/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1440952134&sr=8-4&keywords=6-inch+CFM+fan"]435 CFM Hurricane Inline Fan $97[/ame] = $210

Tent: $118 or $258
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-Hydroponic-Indoor-Growing/dp/B00H9O6UJ0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440952289&sr=8-1&keywords=sun+hut+grow+tent"]Apollo Horticulture 4' x 4' x 6.5' Grow Tent [/ame] Normally, I'd recommend a more expensive tent, but you're really getting up there. If I recommended my tents, which are much better than these, but still not the cost of Gorilla Tents or Secret Jardin Tents, I would recommend a [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Sun-Hut-Horticultural-4-7-Feet-6-5-Feet/dp/B00F2QLBE6/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1440952422&sr=8-4&keywords=sun+hut+grow+tent"]Sun Hut Big Easy Classic 4.7' x 4.7' x 6.5[/ame]' (notice they are slightly larger). Zippers are better, and material is better.

Meters: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Bluelab-pH-Pen-Measuring-Temperature/dp/B005POOJHG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440952840&sr=8-1&keywords=bluelab+ph+pen"]Bluelab PH Pen (best on the market)[/ame] $70 and a cheap [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Hanna-Instruments-Batteries-Resolution-Accuracy/dp/B005HYQQ02/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440952896&sr=8-1&keywords=Primo+PPM"]Hanna Primo PPM Meter[/ame] $45

Then you need to choose your method. I think you mentioned soil, in which I can not really help you. I mean.. I can, I'm not entirely broken LOL. But I would set you up differently than someone like Rose could. Like I mentioned before.. if I were you, I'd do some soil(or soilless), then when it's time for a nute I'd go chem (bit easier I'd think, and less involved than organic.. but I can't or shouldn't really comment on that.) I would do [ame="http://www.amazon.com/General-Hydroponics-Flora-FloraBloom-FloraMicro/dp/B0024NDVRA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440953071&sr=8-1&keywords=GH+3+part+flora"]General Hydroponics 3 Part Flora[/ame] or [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Technaflora-Recipe-Success-Starter-Kit/dp/B0001XGP32/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440953105&sr=8-1&keywords=Technaflora&pebp=1440953121868&perid=1EN5RKAXVHGSB96R1TJH"]Technaflora[/ame] Just not that Fox Farm nute. I believe the soil you have is good, but with my NOOBNESS on soil I (again) shouldn't comment. I believe the stuff you have has nutrients in it for the first 4-6 weeks, then you amend with nutrients... I only have experience with soilless with is inert right from the start and I decide when to add nutrients. I very much prefer this if you're going chemical. If you go organic, there's a lotttt more to the soil to start, but then it's just water. I've never had the time or really want to start that road. Plus... bugs. lol

If you choose to dive into the vast epicness and EASE that is hydro, then let me know.

As it stands now, this is a good start. I'm going to calculate this, and edit the post after. I want to post this now so I don't lose it. I'll add any other thoughts to another post. There's a few more things to get, but we'll get you over the initial "shoot!! you're saying a grand to start?!" shock.

With that in mind maybe we might have to settle for two to flower but hey gotta start somewhere right? I'm so excited. Ok gonna look through all your handy dandy links. And I'll get back to you with more specifics I've been putting together.

What would be involved in hydro I've looked around and I just can't piece it together, but you say it could be easier. Sorry you've got me even more curious now. Haha.

Well.. Hydro speaks my language I could help you 100% with that. We'd have to sort out your best method, but I think I have it all done. First, we'll settle on your room size, then I'll go toward method. Remember, you'll have investment to make in your method and in your nutrients, and a few more smaller items along the way.

I'll get the links for 2 plants. It will come close to cutting your initial cost in half. You'll need half the vent, half the size, half the lights.


Lights: Mars II 400's x2 = $360

Tent: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-Hydroponic-Indoor-Growing/dp/B00H9OJHYA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440957996&sr=8-1&keywords=2x4+grow+tent"]Apollo Horticulture 4' x 2' x 6.5'[/ame] $89

Meters: (COPIED FROM LAST POST).. [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Bluelab-pH-Pen-Measuring-Temperature/dp/B005POOJHG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440952840&sr=8-1&keywords=bluelab+ph+pen"]Bluelab PH Pen (best on the market)[/ame] $70 and a cheap [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Hanna-Instruments-Batteries-Resolution-Accuracy/dp/B005HYQQ02/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440952896&sr=8-1&keywords=Primo+PPM"]Hanna Primo PPM Meter[/ame] $45

Ventilation: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Hurricane-Fans-171-Inline-4-Inch/dp/B007ZU6ZT8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440957908&sr=8-1&keywords=Hurricane+fan+4%22"]Hurricane 171 CFM Inline Fan[/ame] $84 and you'll need the [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Phat-Filter-inchx4-inch-200/dp/B00598H6XM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440958195&sr=8-1&keywords=4%22+phat+filter"]4" Phat Filter[/ame] for that one, which is $70

So my first list for a 4 x 4 room with 4 lights that runs 4 plants, was totalled at $1,135, free shipping.
This list, with 4 x 2 room, 2 lights that runs 2 plants, is totalled at $718.

Now, we have to get you genetics, method (hydro parts etc) some regular little clip fans for blowing on the plants, and I'll get you a price on a proper veg light if you'd like to step away from CFL.. I highly suggest you do when funds allow.

NICE posts DGF... I just smoked some Sensi Star for the first time and it is wonderful for sleep. LOVE IT.

Thank you for such a detailed post. Cotton candy?

Rosebud said:

NICE posts DGF... I just smoked some Sensi Star for the first time and it is wonderful for sleep. LOVE IT.

Thank you for such a detailed post. Cotton candy?

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I love to help someone after it as much as this miss is

And yeah, you should remember some of those times. I have lots of stuff chronicled in many journals, and Cotton Candy is in there. 1st time from seed I hit 7.8 oz dry from one plant and second time I hit 10.2 oz dry from one plant. Exceedingly impressive!

Would this also do, it appears to be the same thing or is the quality noticeably less
[ame]http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00RBDST6G?psc=1[/ame]

oh and would this flora series set bed worth it.[ame]http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008UCCCII/ref=pd_aw_sbs_86_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=0B500CGF988VX9SCDKMK[/ame]

Neither of your links worked, but I'll politely say "I doubt they are worth it" lol!

Try to get the links again? Also, take note.. I cut corners where I saw fit. You don't really want to cut them anymore

Oh no I trust you the flora nite link was the three love flora series 16oz with some extras like ph tester liquid, and some other stuff I can't remember for $42

PH testing liquid is very unreliable, hence buying the expensive brand PH tester. So generally don't worry about kits like that.

Okie dokie

Oh yeah, I wanted to track you down a good Chemdawg. I'm unaware of the best breeders versions of it.. I'll check into it a little bit.