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Old 01-27-2018, 04:55 PM   #101
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Hackeman, I have the Fitbit Charge 2. I don't know the difference between the different models. I also have pretty much beat myself up over the years--hard work and hard play. In addition, I had some bad habits that undoubtedly did harm. I do have to say though that I feel a lot better now that I am retired--that plumbing is really hard work and it was just getting to be too much for me. Yes, I hate getting old, too--thought it would take longer. I had to have someone else haul a foot and a half bag of soil downstairs for me yesterday...don't know how the bags of soil got so much heavier than they used to be.

Back to terpenes. I made about 1-1/2 gram of juice and don't really know how much I used because the bottle doesn't dispense in drips like it was supposed to. I am thinking I used about 5 or 6 drops and it was strong. I would use less next time altho others liked it. This is what I used: https://foggterpenes.com/collections...-br-jack-herer This is the 100% terpene and not a liquidizer with terpenes already in it. I really don't get the piney flavor, but it is a complex flavor that is hard to describe.

They also sell liquidizers with terpenes already in it. I didn't think that the one I used had nearly enough flavor and aroma to it--ie neededs more terps. I used this one: https://treesx.com/product/church-og/

I love the vial holder. I generally use a shot glass with a heavy bottom.
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I just pulled the trigger on the Charge 2. Should be here in a few days. Thanks.
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OMG! This thing is so cool. I'm not sure how accurate it is but it's funny that once you have something... you start to notice how many others have one like it. LOL

We had a gig Wednesday night and I saw 4 people in the bar wearing Fitbits. LMAO 3 got them this Christmas and one guy had a real old model and said he's been wearing it for years. LOL I just got mine yesterday.

The Winter weather keeps me in the house so I have not been to the gym in almost 2 months. Maybe this will get me back there as I explore the features of my new toy.

Although, my main reason for wanting this was for sleep tracking.

First night and it looks pretty accurate so far.

Thanks again for the tip. Pretty neat.
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How many steps do you get while playing drums for the night?
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LOL. I was thinking the same thing. I didn't have it Wednesday when I played but we usually practice on Sunday nights so I may find out this weekend.

One of the guys I talked to said he logged like 100,000 + steps one night playing bass guitar. LOL. However, he was the guy with the older one and he said his was not as good as the newer ones.
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Yeah, I think they are pretty cool, too. As the "steps" have something to do with arm movement, it should be very interesting to see how many you have after a night of drumming.

I think that they are probably fairly accurate. When I first got mine, I would make note of the times I woke up and whether I had been dreaming or not to see if I had corresponding data on my Fitbit and it always seemed accurate.

I'm not much of a gym goer, but it does get me up and moving. This is not a problem in summer, but winter weather tends to keep me inside. You can set reminders, if like me, you find yourself sitting and not moving for too long a period. And we live in a house with a basement, so I can get some stairs in every day, too.

Anyway, glad you like it and let us know how many "steps" you get after a gig.
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I'm still looking for how to set it to remind me at 4:20. LOL

My wife was laughing her *** off this morning when I asked her to log onto my Fitbit page and see what info is "public" on my page. She looked right to the bottom of the page where your friends are listed and pointed out to me that it said....... "Hackerman has no friends" LMAO
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I made some more e-juice today.

Lemon oil sure makes a strange aftertaste. LOL Actually, it's about the best flavor yet.

I am going to try cinnamon next but after that, I'm done with flavors. They all taste like poop. I did try some with just the Vapeur Extract and rosin, with no flavor but it wasn't great either.

I am going to order some of those terps and try that.

I was reading that terps don;t work well in plastic carts. I have plastic and pyrex glass.

I also ordered some ITSUWA LIBERTY V9 GLASS CERAMIC VAPE CARTRIDGE on ebay. These are supposed to be specially designed for thicker oils. I like the adjustable air flow.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2X-0-5ml-IT...72.m2749.l2649

How many drops of terps per ml do you use?

Also, isn't Vapeur Extract made from Vegetable Glycerin? Isn't that well know now to cause cancer when vaped?
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Vapeur Extract is a blend of blend of PEG400, Propylene Glycol, and VG. Virtually all e-liquids and liquidizers are vegetable glycerin, polyethylene glycol and/or propylene glycol. Many are a combination of the these, like Vapeur Extract. I have never heard that vaping vegetable glycerin causes cancer, so I googled vegetable glycerin and cancer and did not come up with much. No one really suggested that it causes cancer. One article talked about an increase chance of popcorn lung cancer with e-cigs (with nicotine in them), caused by formaldehyde, but I never got from the article whether the formaldehyde was from the nicotine or the carrier.

I don't really know how many drops I used as the dropper bottle sucks and really does not dispense well. So, I am thinking somewhere around 5-6 drops, which I think was too much. I did find that those who did not smoke cannabis all the time really liked it though and I gave a filled pen to both my daughter and my niece. This was 100% pure terps, not terps already mixed with a liquidizer, which some companies sell.

I'll check out the carts you linked. Adjustable flow sounds interesting.
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I have not looked at credible data about the VG and carcinogens but I hear a lot of screaming in the bleachers.

I would check into it but I don't vape (other than just to play with it all) so the amount I do wouldn't be harmful anyway. Not when I see these kids walking around in these giant puffy clouds of vapor that look like cumulus clouds. LMAO

If I run across something real. I'll post it.

How about the plastic carts and terps? Did you find any problem there? Something about only being able to use glass with terps.

I'll order the straight terps (and maybe some mixed too) and start at about 3 or 4 drops of the concentrate.

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OK, I think I have this terp thing figured out. I think.

The terps most are selling are also know as (in the true sense) essential oils.

Most are collected from a plant via distillation or, more recently critical CO2 extraction.

Best I can tell it's the same as (most of) the oils that are sold for the room 'diffusers' like my wife has. And, the same as LorAnn's candy oils. Some of them.

Some of them are just 'flavor'. Some are 'oil flavor'. And the real essential oils are just called 'oil, natural'.

Most of the 'real oils' are only available in lemon, peppermint, etc. The 'flavors' are some kind of oil with 'natural flavoring'. LMAO I believe beaver urine would be a 'natural flavoring' wouldn't it? LMAO I love the buzz words. LMAO

Anyway, after some lengthy read and given careful consideration I have come to the conclusion........ BULL !!!!!! LMAO

Almost no one is actually getting the terps from cannabis. I have seen some. But, not many. All the eBay sellers are simply selling natural oil.

They looked at a chromatography report and tried to copy the terp profile.

Everyone seems to agree that NONE of them taste like pot.

Whether it's good or bad is more just opinion.

The "cannabis terps" are selling for about $15 for 3 ml.

The LorAnn oils (which appear to be the exact same thing) sells for about $1.49 for the same amount.

Something is fishy in Denmark.
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I received that ITSUWA cart today. Pretty nice. It's different that any other one I've seen in that the entire center comes out to fill it. No syringe needed, I could pour the stuff out of a boot and get it in this opening. Very nice.

It also doesn't have that "metallic" taste that I get with some ceramic models. The 'wick' models taste like cotton and the ceramic ones often taste like metal. This one was neutral.

I'm not much of a e-cig person but this was pretty nice. I also like the round mouth piece. The flat mouth pieces don't always line up with the way I like the button positioned. A minor thing but, it's not an issue with this round mouth piece.

EDIT: Also, the adjustable air thing is awesome. Major difference from full open to full closed. And, although I have not tried it yet, it appears that you can completely empty and clean this one. Which is great for me. Sometimes I make an experimental batch that tastes like poop and I wish I could empty the cart. I usually just toss it in a drawer. Now, I can actually clean out the cart and refill it clean.

I'll let you know how well it cleans up tomorrow when I remove this crap that I put in it and try to clean it up like new for a new batch.
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HG, we were talking about how a drum session would affect the FitBit. Finally had a practice last night and played for a few hours.

Pretty neat. It has me on a bicycle ride a couple times. LOL 15k steps without ever getting off my stool. LOL

It had my active heart rate at about 120 to 130 while playing. I never would have guessed it went that fast. I sure don't feel like it when I play. I usually feel pretty relaxed when I play. Some songs, excepted of course.

The sleep thing is really intriguing me. I wake up 30 to 50 times a night!!!!! Only 3 to 5 that I know about. I wonder if the rest are just me tossing and turning. I have been reading a little in their sleep forum and people are convinced these things are fairly accurate.

Here are a couple shots of the activity screen during practice.....
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Thanks for reporting back. That s pretty interesting. I do know that drumming is quite strenuous...especially considering that you are sitting the whole time. Guess that might be why the Fitbit recognized it as bicycling. I used to marvel that my boyfriend could keep moving like that all evening with only short breaks every hour. What kind of music do you guys play?

I wake up a whole lot of times, too. I don't really know why, unless it is for a bathroom trip. I like my bed, my pain levels are low, and I don't drink anything with caffeine in it after mid afternoon. Decided to order a memory foam topper to see if it helps as my bed is quite firm. I'll have to check out the sleep forum.
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I would guess that drumming is a lot like dancing except maybe less impacting on the joints. I don’t really feel tired when dancing but I’m sure the heart rate goes up... I found out 2 years ago at my daughters wedding that dancing or at least the way I do, is hard on my joints....Could barely walk for about 2 months...music still moves me to try though.
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I'm not real happy with my e-juice results so far.

I have come to the realization that all that flavor crap is not what I want. I like the plain taste better.

So, I have just been using Vapeur Extract, flavorless and rosin.

I have been going 2:1 with VE to rosin and it's still too thick. I tried some at 4:1 and it vaped great but it was too weak.

I did some 1:1 and it just dried up in the cart.

The rosin is like BHO. Kind of like shatter or wax. It's definitely not fluid in any way. The VE does thin it down some but, definitely not enough for me.

I think the e-juice should be less like Karo and more like Log Cabin.

Are you happy with yours and the way you are making it?

I am going to winterize my rosin next and see if that helps.
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I have to say that I have not found any vape liquid to be strong enough. This includes the ones I buy at the dispensary. They can also make me cough more--can't figure this out as they are supposed to be safer, cleaner. I usually only use the vape pen when smoking is "inconvenient"--say working out in the garden, around other people/children that smoking might bother, in a vehicle. I just like the taste and smell of cannabis, I don't think I could ever go totally to a vape pen.

I have not made my own rosin, but have used BHO (or other concentrate) that I purchased at the dispensary (is the dispensary stuff winterized?). I have also used keif that I made. I (think I) mixed it at about a 2:1 ratio, but it could be off some. Trying to remember exactly how I measured the liquidizer and can't remember. This is with Vapeur Extract (flavorless), so it is the same liquidizer. I'll continue to screw around with vape concentrates some as I really want to like them--so easy and convenient to use a vape pen.
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So, you and I are in the same boat. LOL I don't really like the vape. I use it indoors at the bar on Wednesday nights and that's about it. LOL Or anyplace you just can't smoke.

As for coughing, we are in the same boat there as well. And, we are not alone. Vaping glycerin and PG and PEG and all the other crap that's in e-cigs bothers a lot of people's throats and makes plenty of people cough more than smoking (so they say). I found that turning down the temp lower and lower until it's not "hot" on my throat helps. Albeit, by then, I don't get a very big hit.

I have been making it 2:1 also. I tried some 1:1 but it was so thick after it got in the cart, it just hardened up to shatter again. LOL

Again, like you, I would love to learn to enjoy this. Lots of cool vape toys. And, it is sooooo convenient. Fill a cart and you're good for the entire night. How many pipes can you fill once a night? LOL

I have purchase a Buchner funnel and some Everclear and some other toys. I am going to try to clean this up to get it so I can use a 1:1 (or less) that works. I could probably live with a 1:1 mix as far as potency.

What I really want to do is eliminate the Vapeur Extract. The Ivana (or whatever) cartridge we discussed earlier in this thread is supposed to be able to process straight BHO/Rosin/etc. No way. My rosin is hard. Or, at best sticky. It NEVER flows. LOL It would simply get in that cart and harden up. It would never get through those tiny holes to the ceramic heater/vaporizer thingy.

Like I said, I am going to try some things to thin down the rosin with a little VE as possible. I'll let you know if I hit any breakthroughs. LOL

Heck, I'm a smoker, plain and simple. LOL
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