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Old 11-06-2008, 09:01 PM   #1
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Ok, so i took cuttings for the first time yesterday

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misted plants occasionally when dome was dry or had less water than i initially sprayed.

problem, The clones are falling over and have not come back up yet, its been about 10 hrs since i cut them and put them in rapid rooters

i dont have pics, but you should get the point

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Old 11-06-2008, 09:21 PM   #2
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ph'd water with superthrive
IMO... could also be something like... the cutting utensil contaminated every cutting it came into contact with.

what r rapid rooters?... I'm stunned... I just plop my cuttings (with cloning powder) directly into soil into small pots... and I'm pretty darn successful.

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Old 11-06-2008, 09:27 PM   #3
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Rapid rooters, compressed tree bark, very good for cuttings and people love them from what ive heard.

the razor i used was cleaned with alcohol.

never cloned before, so im not sure whats going on, i know they will bend over for a while, but when do the point back up?
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:32 PM   #4
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all my clones is fine..didn't die on me..

but IMO if it did.. I would put it back with just water and let it sit under the light until the roots grow.. then process to the next step..might take less than a week.. my next clones just rooted.. I will stick with soils (haha..)
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:36 PM   #5
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I think that compressed tree bark would be pretty acidic. peat pellettes I'ved used before too, but now I just use the same damn sheet that my stuff grows in... works just dandy. one less transplanting at a fragile age.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:39 PM   #6
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:44 PM   #7
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there ya go... these things r pre-treated... yer superthriv was the culprit....like I initially thought. wait a min... do you just stick cuttings into these plugs?... ya can't pre-treat cuttings before ya stick 'em in, then prolly.

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Old 11-06-2008, 09:45 PM   #8
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all my clones is fine..didn't die on me..

but IMO if it did.. I would put it back with just water and let it sit under the light until the roots grow.. then process to the next step..might take less than a week.. my next clones just rooted.. I will stick with soils (haha..)
papa, i love ya to death, but how does your post help me brotha!?!?!?!?
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:50 PM   #9
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TCVG, youve been very helpful man, but im going off of someone elses success with the exact method im using, but who knows, maybe i should just take more cuttings and see if they survive and not use superthrive, i used about 1/4 the reccomended dose, but who knows, i will check them when i get home, maybe they will have perked up, need to be patient i suppose!
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Old 11-06-2008, 10:02 PM   #10
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i've noticed with some of my cuttings it will take them a little longer to perk up than others, if its only been less than 24 hours i would wait to see how they arein the morning. i have 6 cuttings left that have just started to root after almost 3 weeks.. so when in doubt wait it out. jmo good luck man..
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Old 11-06-2008, 10:05 PM   #11
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Try this take a new cutting making sure after you clean your razor give it enough time for the alchol to evaperate off. Let the cutting set in water for 15min. Then make a new cut UNder water. then dip in the powder and pop in some dirt and put it under the dome and under the light on 24hrs ( no dark) and see if you have any luck that way. It took mine about a week and half to take off growing again. Sometimes we try to do to much to get it to work that we end up being the problem. Who knows I'd give it another try with a couple new clones and see if you have any luck

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Old 11-06-2008, 10:10 PM   #12
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i've noticed with some of my cuttings it will take them a little longer to perk up than others, if its only been less than 24 hours i would wait to see how they arein the morning. i have 6 cuttings left that have just started to root after almost 3 weeks.. so when in doubt wait it out. jmo good luck man..
Thanks bro, i just have noticed that in pics of trays full of clones that some of the clones are standing up, and some are laying over, im about 50/50 with my clones standing up and laying over, i just figured it wouldnt take them long before they perked up, but i will wait until morning, thanks again man.
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dude, you know how long ive been looking for that thread? you just made my fricken day! thanks man, my clones look exactly like his in his pics, not so worried now

thanks again bro, i mean that!
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I use rapid rooters and have good luck with them with both seeds and clones. When clones wilt badly and do not perk up right away, they might have an air bubble in the stem, which prevents the uptake of water. I always cut my clones underwater, as Jane recommended. I like to use a cloning gel, also. But since I have always used a cloning gel, I do not know if it is truly necessary. I just like to try and up my odds of success.
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all my clones look like **** until they root then after that there good to go.
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I like "That crazy vancouver guys" method. I dont think you need all that stuff to make clones. Seems like alot of things can happen to kill them. No dome, superthrive, rapid rooters. Save your money and keep it simple. 20 ounce cup, happy frog soil, rooting hormone, phd water is all I use and will put my system up against any of those expensive high tech systems.

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Old 11-06-2008, 11:25 PM   #19
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yeah vancover's method will work.. what I posted would help yours if your donors did not root yet.. and dying.... just have a dark cup and some screen for little "scrog" or some couple of glasses for 4 to 5 clones each cups..

let it sit with distilled water.. until it roots.. if you do see little root.. then you can go with your next step.. roots is very important..
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I like "That crazy vancouver guys" method. I dont think you need all that stuff to make clones. Seems like alot of things can happen to kill them. No dome, superthrive, rapid rooters. Save your money and keep it simple. 20 ounce cup, happy frog soil, rooting hormone, phd water is all I use and will put my system up against any of those expensive high tech systems.

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I Like your style, but rapid rooters are tried and true, i need them because im going dwc with my clones and dont want to have to wash away dirt potentially harming the roots in transit.

btw, i use a dome so im not sure what you meant by that, but thanks for your insight, very much appreciated
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