ok so this is my 2nd grow journal see signature to follow first. I have brought 2 seeds to growth out of 4 total seeds. All 4 germinated. I started the germinated seeds in the sure to grow, probably not the best idea since i lost 2 to the medium. On a side note there is not anyone using it for seeds, mostly cloning. The plant has a hard time finding its way out safely and get snarled in the "fabric". But i did get 2 to go so good on me ;-) I strated them ou using pringles singles containers, and cut holes in the bottom to let water out.