can we talk outdoor plans please?

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I am in the midst of reading Marijuana Botany by Clark.

I am planning in my head the garden. I feel my big 2 pounder Nurse Larry needed another week or two to be knock ya down pot. People i give it to say it is very strong.. not to me.. Any way according to Clark topping your plants slow the growth. He says to lst instead. He also says the E to W is the best position for your plants rather then N/S.

So I am thinking of putting some posts and wire up going e/w. Do you guys know any other tricks to harvest early. I am in the northwest..heavy on the north. My plants did show amber a little last year but not what i needed.

Thanks... I miss Ozzy he is so experienced in OD.
 

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Hey Rose :) if you have the possibility of making a small greenhouse, you could be able to control the harvest. I have a big steel greenhouse for veggies, but I have seen cheap cute wooden greenhouses being built quite easily. if it is not possible, then i guess you should do some strain hunting, along with Clark's suggestions, get something that finishes earlier
 

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What do you mean by n-s and e to west? Is this a green house or plant rows?
 

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Plant rows. My fence in my backyard runs N/s. so that is the way i planted last year in fron of the fence. After reading Clarks I was thinking of making the row come out from the fence in a E/W direction by putting up wire..


Zem, tell me more about a little greenhouses. It would have to be pretty small. And the NL did finish the year before... Thank you guys.
 
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I have a small greenhouse (about 5 x 6) that I put up every spring for veggies since I have such a short growing season. You can get an inexpensive plastic greenhouse that is easy to put up and take down for not a whole lot of money.
 

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i know nothing of this east west north south planting.

as for topping slowing your plants.. i think he just means in growth, not that they'll need to bloom for longer if topped.
not that i've ever experienced or read anyway ;) *and makes no sense to me if that's what he means.. why? maybe if you topped and bloomed right away.. but i don't see what effect topping would have months later.


if we're talking building a greenhouse..
let's build a greenhouse where we can play with light deprivation tech ;)

you know me rose; i'm always manually moving my plants to a shed to get the longer runners to finish here, and for some early mid-season smoke (such a PITA and much hassle.. but it's worth it in the end)

i've always wanted (and will someday) to build a light dep greenhouse (a simple greenhouse that you can cover and force the plants to bloom no matter what the light schedule OD)
either on a timer, or even manually cover. (figure manually moving/removing a cover is easier than manually moving a bunch of plants ;) )

one of the best i saw online, wasn't even a greenhouse; a guy made a simple 2X4 box around his planter.. and just covered that to force them to bloom.

biggest concern is airflow while covered, with this technique.

that's really the only way i know to get plants to bloom outdoors early; make them think it's not early.
have tried other tricks like shade planting and early bloom feeding.. they did nothing IME
 

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Was your fence blocking any sunlight from the plants?
 

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Oh dear, do you guys remember how SMALL my back yard is???? I have been working out for 4 months, maybe i could carry plants this year... What size pots do you use Kaotic. I could not move the ten gallon ones last year. I think you need a minimum of ten gallon pots..And Kaotic, you are right, a light dep greenhouse would be awesome... THG, i will look at the link you sent, thank you.

I think, not positive, that what Clark was saying is that when topped you release a hormone that makes the plant go to work to fix the owee and stops maturing till the bit is healed..
Mine needed two more weeks. If they were in pots i could put them in the shed for dark...hm..

After this thread is done i will email it to mr rb. lol

Duck, yes. until they got 5 feet tall.
 

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i don't really grow big plants though rose, admittedly. i do more smaller/mid sized blooming throughout the season (makes solo-cropping much easier too ;) )

my pots range from about 4's to 7's (estimate. don't honestly know)
had one in about a 10 gal last season.. about killed me moving that beast :eek:
there was a member here a while back 2dogs, if i recall; she put her pots on a wagon for easier moving.

IMO best route is in the ground with a frame around it, if possible. they're just way stronger in the ground IME (obviously)


clark is right on that.. puts energy into healing over growing.. i think you're confusing that into making bloom take longer though (or i just read your first post wrong ;) )
.. it only slows veg growth for a while. not going to add any length to bloom.
 

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bozzo force flowers some girls every summer. He has good luck doing it.
 

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Kaotik,you are right, i miss phrased that in the initial post.. He, Clark was talking slowing maturing, ripening. 2Dog did do that... I have one cart thing.... that might be worth thinking about...thank you.


Zem, this is an awesome idea but we do have really stiff up to 60 mph winds at times.
 

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oh it depends on the garden's location. the weather forecast can be windy but your garden may be in a location not highly affected. anyway, i assure you that a single 60mph blow would blow that greenhouse that i linked, like the pig's hay house LOL at that velocity, you need steel and high density polyethylene sheets and proper installation. i have learned from my steel greenhouse the power of wind, last storm, the pulling force on the nylon caused the iron bar holding the nylon to turn causing the tension of the sheet to loosen and i had water pockets all over my roof LOL if you could see the iron bar that i am talking about and how it turned, you would know how much power i am talking about, but my greenhouse is on a roof with the most exposure, and wind was almost 60 mph
 

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I have never grown outdoors. But this year I am. While I have space, and I have a privacy fence, I was planning on building something cheap to hide the grow some. I was talking to NCH about it. He referred me to someone, and I will be talking to him about it next week. I'll let you know what I'm going to do.
 
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I have the same greenhouse that is in the link zem posted. But of course, getting it for $17.50 would require a whole bunch of luck. I paid $50 for mine on sale, but they often go on sale for that price. They always run out of greenhouses in my area before the prices get down to a $17.50 sale price. I put mine on my deck and secure it to the deck and it has survived strong winds. This will be my 3rd year using it. However it would not work for your purposes, Rosebud, as the shelving is part of the structure of the greenhouse. Using galvanized pipe would be very expensive.
 

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Rose you of all people know what needs to be done to achieve whatever your goal is..in the words of Nike.....Just Do It.....I know you'll be successful.
 

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buddogmutt, my friend, so nice to see you again. you better get back here for your summer grow. I want to watch. How's the puppy? Big dog?

I did something stealth. We will be getting new neighbors this summer and they will be able to see my grow. The last neighbors didn't care. we were friends. So anyway, mr rb went over and stood on their deck and found out that if we put those solar shades on the south side of the patio they can't see the plants HOORAY!!! WOO HOO... Pretty proud of that.. I will take pic's when they are put up.
 

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who knows Rose, new neighbors might be cool even happy with you growing. they might think maybe they can get a few puffs with you sometime. keep your hopes high ;)
 

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That would be awesome. The last neighbors were a trip.. they destroyed the house with 4 young boys and a mom and dad that worked full time. I bet the owners put 160K into it.. so we will see who we get over there. But we loved them.. and they us.. I miss um.
Thanks zem, let hope for really cool pot smokers to move in.
 
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