Hey thanks for the help. I'm new to this science and am pretty much just doing it to save my girlfriend money. As my name suggests, I don't smoke, but anything I can make or grow, etc. is fascinating to me. I just started my 13/11 light cycle last weekend, how long into this cycle should I wait before cloning, or is it advisable to do it before flowering? My space is limited to one box, so I have a 70 watt HPS running simultaneously with a 250 watt MH. I'd like to be able to keep the new babies in the same box, but say on a shelf high up inside. Does this sound dumb, or is it possible?