dwc bucket system

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i was thinkin of doin a dwc setup with 6 buckets with 6 different airpumps to supply em with oxygen.. the couple questions i had were how often will i have to change the water and will 2 400 hps lights be enough for 6 plants... wut other circumstances must i be ready for??? wut size buckets should i get? help will be appr3ciated
 

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The lights will be more then enough, they'll do very well... 1 air pump to each plant will definately be enough... a 3 gallon bubble cloner uses one pump... w/ a couple airstones... water in hydro is normally done every 7-14 days... a lot even do it a while longer then that. Changing out allows any salt buildup and any algae to be cleaned out. Buildups of either vary emmensely depending on too many factors.
 

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Buy a pump that moves enough air to supply your need. They have pumps from 1 gallon to hundreds of gallons.
 

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You can run one hefty pump and get a "gang valve" to route it into the buckets.
 

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if i was in your place i would buy one every large airpump they come with 4 outs so no need for valves and they will be about the same price as 4 smaller pumps if you need a link to one of this pumps PM me
 

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are there any gang valves sold like at home depot or something??? ive seen them online jus lookin they should just fit the size of the air pump rite???
 

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delloman knows-

they have pumps that go all the way up to 14 outlets for hydro. for less expensive than 6, dual output airpumps from the petstore.

you can get one pump with 6 outlets. and have it central to your bucket setup.

how many gallons are the buckets you plan on using?

also remember with DWC, the more air you have the better EVERYTHING will go.

so two 6 outlet airpumps wouldnt be a bad idea- so you could have the standard 2 airstones per bucket- and you wouldnt have to worry about valves and connections- and importantly, inconsistancy in air flow.

i would say 2, 6 outlet pumps would be the most efficient way to go.

where i go has only the 2,4,8,and 14 outlet pumps. you could have one 8outlet, and one 4 outlet for a very efficient 6 bucket system.

they also have variable control which is always good if you ever need to move anything around.


http://www.hydroempire.com/store/product_info.php/cPath/17_37/products_id/770

thats the 8 outlet
 

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ghettodreamz said:
i was thinkin of doin a dwc setup with 6 buckets with 6 different airpumps to supply em with oxygen.. the couple questions i had were how often will i have to change the water and will 2 400 hps lights be enough for 6 plants... wut other circumstances must i be ready for??? wut size buckets should i get? help will be appr3ciated

the biggest problem most people have- and is the least talked about with DWC, is PH.

Ph levels can mean the world. it is harder to control PH in small buckets. 5g buckets would be ideal. but just be prepared to stay ontop of your PH levels. just a couple extra bucks on 'ph up' and 'ph down' and a PH meter (or even PH test strips which are only like 7 bucks) - it can change your whole crop from "what the ****, (that word just isn't allowed. Even if you misspell it :) ) is going on" to "damn them mothas is huge!" :)

you want your PH to be between 5.8-6.0 ideally. give or take a 10th. and distilled water is the easiest to work with.
 

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yes i am using 5 gallon bukets... would just 1 pump supply enough for 8 plants or wuz it better just to use 2? lookin for all the help i can get thanks dawgggggggg
 

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1 heavy heavy duty pump might do it- but i personally use 1, dual outlet pump for each of my buckets. IMO its more efficient in airflow and easier to control each bucket if something happens or needs to be done.

when you have a heavy duty pump that goes to one large tube which splits off into multiple smaller tubes, you run a higher risk of minor-major airflow inconsistancy.

i like pumps that have multiple outlets. like the ones i posted above from hydroempire.com

if you can go all out with air pumps, you should. the more the better. you never wanna skimp on the air. -maximum airflow can basically make your entire grow go successfully if you have the other nonsense out of the way (PH and nutes).
 

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so 1 dual pump from say pets mart for like 20 buks would be an inefficient source of air for my little children??? not trying to skimp but trying to find the best price because ive already spent 2 much newayz :0 ....keep wit the info im lovin it
 

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I gotta ask you guys somethin... my airstones all try to float a bit when the pump is on... what u guys use to keep em down? just some random heavy object?
 

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i have rubber balls ziptied to the tubes right where they connect-so it still floats a little, but it mostly just lifts up. but man check these out-

http://cgi.ebay.com/6-Air-Diffuser-...goryZ519QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

i just found them today. Im gonna grab some- this is a wholesaler so he will have them for a long time im sure. but they are farelly new.

not only do they not float but they are top of the line. alot of fine bubbles, and extremely efficient in distribution. -clog proof. they look great.
 

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ghettodreamz said:
so 1 dual pump from say pets mart for like 20 buks would be an inefficient source of air for my little children??? not trying to skimp but trying to find the best price because ive already spent 2 much newayz :0 ....keep wit the info im lovin it
yes you would be puting shame to your setup and wasting alot of time and nutes. 1 dual output from the pet store cant efficiently handle 6 buckets.

you should check out that link i posted on hydroempire.com

their pumps are grade A, made for hydro, and inexpensive. honeslty, i know what you mean when you see money flying in every direction. but good equipment is well worth it. and your air pumps should come before anything especially with DWC.

you could always use less buckets for your first op, and then scrape your ends together at a later date to get the rest running.

but if you run all 6 with weak airflow you risk all your girls- rather than just running 2-4 buckets and harvesting a modest crop. you know what i mean?

its all about efficiency- whatever the **** it is you got make it efficient.

in your case you only got a couple bucks left. so your efficiency will be in using a smaller system. i think its about $60 for an 8 outlet heavy duty pump. - that would be extremely efficient for 4 buckets running on max cap.

so i dont know, what do you think
 

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I'm just gonna rebuild, get a dual diaphram pump and do one long *** string of airstones.
 

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Shibumi said:
"I'm just gonna rebuild, get a dual diaphram pump and do one long *** string of airstones."

Dont do this. You'll get air to the first couple stones and then it will fade as it gets to the next ones.

You would be better to go to WallyWorld and buy a few $10.00 pumps. Your plants need max air to surround the submerged roots or all will rot away slowly but surley.

Here's the deal. You can have one HUGE plant in one bucket with its own air supply that will grow stupendously or you can have 4 plants that equate to that same single plant in weight but you will have many problems in growing.

I'll take the single plant anyday.
I guess u dont know my setup.... that doesnt matter, I'm just rooting/vegging clones a couple weeks......
A dual diaphram pump has at least 4 outlets... it blows enough bubbles it makes water have a broiling looking effect..
 

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