DynaVap VapCap

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  1. Apr 29, 2018 #41

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    Be careful with that. It's in the 'raw' form and needs some tweaking to be safe.

    Most of all, do not leave it turned on for more than a couple minutes. Even when they are not in use, they draw an incredible amount of amps. Eventually, it will burn itself (or the power supply) up. We are only using it for a few seconds at a time so we are safe.

    The power supply will have to be a high power supply. I am using my 18v 3 amp bench power supply and 3 amps is not enough. I ordered a 6 amp, 12 volt power supply. It should be a constant current , not constant voltage but they are almost impossible to find so I went with what was available.

    Also, gate voltage is weird on this module. I put a standard 10 amp switch on it and it was acting all weird. I had to flip it off and on to get it to go on. I think we're going to have to add a mos fet switch. I have seen some setups work without it and I would rather not use it but, I ordered one anyway.

    Pipes used a glass tube inside his coil but I don't see that it is required and he has a glass cutter and I don't so, it's probably going to be raw coil unless I find a stock piece that fits. I doubt that.

    Here is a link to the power supply I bought. I'm not 100% sure this is the right one but as soon as I get it and find out if it works, I'll post here.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/AC100-240V...var=521046992596&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

    Here is the mos fet switch I ordered....

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/15A-400W-M...448218?hash=item2ef404c25a:g:O1AAAOSwZQRYeEwQ

    Again, won't know for sure if this works until I get it.
     
  2. Apr 29, 2018 #42

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    I am not ordering that until you tell me which one to get Hackerman, thanks for all your info.
     
  3. Apr 29, 2018 #43

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    Once I get a design that works, I'll post links to all the parts.

    What is cool is the different enclosures people come up with. Everything from cigar boxes to glass jars. LOL

    The coolest one is the one that's in a go-cup and the VapCap looks like a straw coming out of it. Pretty neat.

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  4. May 9, 2018 #44

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    Hey Rosie, was it you that said you were going to buy the Motor rosin/concentrate attachment for Mr. Rosie?

    I recently found an awesome way to adapt it to the bong.

    This piece is the adapter from my Arizer ExtremeQ. Pretty much available anywhere. It's the only adapter I could find that allowed the use of one of these concentrate vapes without having to turn the vape upside down. And, if you do that, all the rosin spills out. LOL So, I used this adapter from my Arizer Extreme and a little piece of rubber hose to make it 'bongable'.

    I love water pipes / bongs whatever they call them today. I use this for rosin most of the time, now. It's nice because it's 'on demand'. No waiting for heatup and no burning off your rosin during a session that you can't keep up with. The battery (or box mod) seems to last forever. I just switch between this and the VapCap Novavong (their waterpipe version) all day long. Back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. LOL

    Oh yeah, once in a while I hit the G9 vape with a load of rosin. This is a standard mouthpiece I bought on eBay and I turned it upside down and it works great. Everything is 18/29mm so it all fits real sweet. I believe this will also work with the Dr Dabber that is like the G9.
     

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  5. May 12, 2018 #45

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    Sorry, I have not been on this Induction Heater thing lately. I got the high amp power supply and it didn't work. So, I had to get a refund and buy another one. :( It should be here Monday so I'll be back on this.

    I did buy the mosfet but I am going to try to make this work without it. I'll have something next week.

    And, HG can clear this up but there is a washer that is always included with the standard toilet tank repair kit. The kit comes with 2 washers that are molded together and you tear them apart and use the one that you need and discard the other.

    I always use the larger one and the smaller one goes into the parts bin.

    This puppy fits around the VapCap M and fits it into a 14mm or 18mm bong just PERFECT. And, depending on where you placeit, you can entirely or just partialy cover the carb hole on the VapCap.

    This is a perfect adapter to use the M with a bong without having to buy the DynaVap "vong" adapter like I did.

    Also, I just bought something from a guy at FC called DDave. It's a glass bong adapter that uses the VapCap tip and cap. It does not use the condenser (the pipe that goes down the inside of the vapCap). It only uses the tip and cap. Here 's a shot.

    I like this idea as I believe it will reduce the draw restriction and give a beefier hit (I hope).

    Still, the VC give the tastiest bong hit yet. :)

    Here's the Ddave thing...

    https://www.ddavemods.com/store/p68/The_VapCap_Water_Wand.html

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  6. May 12, 2018 #46

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    Well, as luck would have it, I had to repair a toilet today. LOL So, I was in the 'toilet' box and found exactly what I was talking about. I even found it in 2 flavors.... before the tear-apart and after. LOL

    As you can see, it fits the VC perfectly and can leave the carb open or closed. Fits real sweet in a 19mm. vcwasher-1.jpg vcwasher-2.jpg vcwasher-3.jpg vcwasher-4.jpg
     
  7. May 15, 2018 #47

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    OK, I finally got the power supply today and got a chance to play a little.

    I am using this with a standard AC/DC power supply at 12v and 6 amps. The only other thing I am using is a toggle switch. It's rated 5 amps, not 6 but, since we are only using it as a momentary it should be fine. I would recommend a 6 amp is you have one.

    Also, this is a momentary switch. That means it's never on unless you are HOLDING it on. This way, the induction heater board can not be left on by accident and start a fire.... which it would likely do if left on with nothing to heat.

    SO... BE CAREFUL

    Other than that, this puppy is working fine without the mosfet that pipes said was required. I think he isparanoid about charging batteries so he adds a lot of safety. As well he should when using these high amp batteries. Since we are not using batteries, it's only important to make sure the unit CAN NOT be left on by accident.

    Either a pushbutton switch or a momentary toggle switch.

    I would like to mount a switch inside the coil so that when you insert the VapCap, the heater goes on and when you remove it, it shuts off.

    First prototype is working great with nothing more than the 14v, 6 amp power suppl yand a momentary 6 amp switch.

    Heatup time to the second click is about 10 seconds. I would like to shorten that to about 4 or 5 seconds. :)

    Let me know if anyone has questions.

    :)
     
  8. May 17, 2018 #48

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    I am trying to find a 10 amp tactile/momentary switch to use and I am having a problem finding a suitable switch ( I bought an 8 amp power supply so I an just covering myself with a 10 amp switch).

    Most switches that are rated at 10 amps are pretty heavy duty and the push button resistance is more than I want.

    I am hoping to place a switch inside the coil so that the heater is activated when the VapCap is inserted into the coil. As it is now, it requires 2 hands to operate. One to hold the VC and one to operate the switch.

    I suspect this is why pipes used the mosfet in his design. With the mosfet in the circuit, I could use any tactile microswitch.

    I'll keep looking. Here is a shot of what I am using now for testing. Just a 12v,6amp power supply, a 5amp toggle/momentary switch and the heater board. I have the switch mounted to a piece of wood simply to make it easy to operate.

    It does work. I am experimenting with how far to insert the VapCap into the coil. Not far enough and the little discs heat up too fast and the click comes early. Too deep and the stem gets too hot. I'm also trying a little of the old in-out with it while it heats. Once a proper insertion depth is established I'll need some kind of spacer to set the switch to the established depth.

    Geeze, by the time I get this done, they will have the commercial version available online. LOL

    Are you using yours, Hush?

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  9. May 19, 2018 #49

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    Playing around a little more today. First shot at an enclosed unit. Just a prototype. Trying to get a feel for what will work and what won't.

    I didn't have room in this box to put the switch into the coil. And, there are certain problems that came up during testing like.... the VapCap tip gets so hot, it would melt the plastic button. So, a buffer of some kind, probably wood, will be required.

    This one works OK. The coil sticks out just enough so I can easily access it and still, the lid closes. So, I can hold the VapCap in my fingers while resting my hand on the push-button switch and it is now, a one-handed operation.

    I could put a couple magnets in. Or, a leather strap to hold the 2 VapCaps in place. Maybe a place for a small storage jar so you can pack this up and take it with you on the go.

    Like I said, just trying to get a feel for things and how they fit. Having some fun.

    There's more to cannabis than getting high. For me, it's a hobby. LOL

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    EDIT: I Might add that this particular proto requires zero soldering. I found the 6 amp pushbutton switch at my local home depot and it has screw terminals. Albeit, I hate screw terminals and I like solder but if you can't solder, this is an option.
     
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