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  1. Aug 20, 2009 #1

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    hey guys i am new and have never attempted or thought of making hash until now... can you guys give me like a step by step or just give me any info you can. anything would help. thankful for any help i can get. thanks guys:D
     
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    look up

    QWISO ON YOUTUBE


    EASIEST HERB EXTRACT TO MAKE!!!


    1. You take 90% or stronger isopropyl alcohol and put it in your freezer.
    2. Fill Mason jar full of leaf trim from your crop (alternately you can save all of your leaves/stems from the bud you buy).
    3. Freeze Mason Jar.
    4. Get a 2 liter bottle and cut the lid off (funnel) at the label.
    5. Insert a coffee filter into the funnel and set up the funnel on a pyrex dish.
    6. Pour cold isopropyl alcohol into mason jar (16oz bottle for large jar)
    7. Shake vigorously.
    8. Strain through filter into dish.
    9. Let alcohol evaporate over 48 hours.
    10. Scrape up hash and have fun!


    *remember, the longer you wash the leaves with isopropyl, the more hash you get - THE LESS POTENT IT BECOMES. I recommend 1 minute of shaking.
     
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  4. Aug 20, 2009 #4

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    pretty sure you're thinking of oil there OG, not hash. (and tip, don't shake vigorously.. you may get a little less, but a much more potent product ;) )
    *nm, i see you edited it now :p

    follow the links posted for the real ways to make hash.

    my old ghetto method for making hash was simple;
    take your trim, get a pantyhose (new preferably :p ), and get something to pile the crytal on (photo paper works well)

    take a handfull of shake and swish it around inside your hand, inside the panty hose (without stretching the pantyhose to much or you'll get other crap)
    repeat untill all trim is finished
    collect the crystal pile,
    place in the corner of a regular baggie (or use seran(sp?) wrap. i found baggie safest)
    find a good movie (cause you'll be here a while)
    and just start pressing it around together in your hands. the heat from your hands will eventually make a ball (you may need to add like a drop of water, i usually didn't though)
    once you form a ball.. break it open and press somemore (as the middle will still be mainly crystal)

    there ya go, ghetto hash.
    i recommend the proper ways.. but this always worked for me (haven't made any in years now though)
     
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    actually no...ISO is not how oil is made...

    You are telling us how to press kief. Not make hash. :)



    I edited my post to add the wash info I took from this thread:

    http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44822


    If you want hash...you have to get the oil, resins, and "crystals" extracted.

    Real hash can put a person down like a tranquilizer! Kief and/or oil alone is not gonna get me up there. ;)
     
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    i was saying YOU were telling him how to make oil.
    what i posted was how i used to make GHETTO hash
    ;)
     
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    kao is dead on.. ;) pressed keife IS hash..The use of a solvent renders it an "elexer" .. an oil..IMO
    hXXp://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/hash013.htm
    hXXp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashish
     
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    I own a Natural Goods 12x6x4in square "Kiefer". In this is a Silk Screen Mesh. This mesh only gathers out the dry sifted particles that are smaller than the size of the mesh used. This method is only good for removing the very small and dried parts of the plants. It will not remove a vast majority the resin glands dissolved in the plant and "crystals" stuck in untouchable parts of the buds and therefore is much weaker than Hashish (why we always called it kief).

    This "solvent method" (also h20) can be used AFTER the material has been "kiefed" to remove the dissolved resins that the screen cant sift out. Once all the compounds have been disassociated from the "stem and leaf particles" then subsequently recombined in this elixir...is what every smoker has yearned for or wondered about his whole life.


    TO ME - AND EVERYONE I KNOW - Hash is the wet resins, and dried trics together in a gooey black mass, that stretches by hand and melts if you leave it in you car, and bubbles into your bowl when u light it. numnumnum

    My experiences to completely extract the components of the plant that get you high go much farther than one single process of sift screening the material. I was hammering kief in the corner of a bag, in the corner of another bag, an so on, on a brick in my bedroom about 8 years ago now


    This "Bubble" hash or "ISO" hash is so much better. IMHO

    -wish we could all sit face to face and smoke some bowls, that would be the most awesome circle of all time...
     
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    h20 is not a solvent for thc, it does not "extract" essential oils nor "resins" in the bafs process. It will leech out some of the chlorophyl, but thc is not water soluble. Water is used only as a medium that forms a "solvation", a transportation method for removing and gathering the 'glands' for pressing with bubble bags. Bubblebags don't extract essential oils, all that they do is separate and collect the trichomes.
    ISo, ether, butane, ect. actually dissolve thc and other essential oils(tars, terpines, ect) into a "solution". The solvent is then evaporated away, left with nothing but the essential oils.
    hXXp://books.google.com/books?id=1YeyucgLHnQC&pg=PA89&lpg=PA89&dq=essential+oils+in+marijuana&source=bl&ots=QFmTFaXO_N&sig=38LPlGdRqAKJhQeQNbsyxJinvoo&hl=en&ei=poSOSuP9FpOcswOc5cDrCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5 <-- what I found on "Noncannabanoid" essential oils.
     
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    We can quote Wikipedia and all sorts of other books..... These are also just other peoples opinions on the subject. NO laboratory studies have been conducted and published on the subject so we are just arguing with the breeze anyways...

    It does not change that Kief and Hash are 2 different products.

    They are made 2 different ways, from two different strains, and return 2 different forms.


    But, scientifically speaking, Water is the UNIVERSAL SOLVENT. And it will dissolve the THC. :)
     
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    I am not following...:confused:

    Google Scholar sounds like an oxymoron. :rofl:

    Of Oaksterdam in Oakland, Cannabis College in Amsterdam, and a few others I have only heard of over the years; I do not know of one that holds valid accreditation. I dont know of one study that has been conducted in the last 50 years that is accepted by the AAAS.


    Sorry to get off topic we totally messed up this hash thread with a tomato tomAto thread...:rofl:
     
  12. Aug 21, 2009 #12

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    Google Scholar is a freely-accessible Web search engine that indexes the full text of scholarly literature across an array of publishing formats ...

    xxx.scholar.google.co.uk/
     
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    I always took a small piece of metal pipe (almost like small conduit) bought plastic ends for both sides that screw on and drill small hole on one of the ends just big enough for butane refill container end to fit in nicely and take other end and drill a bunch of holes in it. Takes a coffee filter and place on the end before screwing on the multiple hole end. Then take your (make sure it's bone dry) shake and pack it into the tube real tight and screw the one holed end on the other end and make sure your wearing gloves and in well-ventilated area away from flammable objects, and start sprayin the butane into the tubing and out will come a green sort of brown (they call it honey hash and depending on the weed) liquid...I usually spray it onto a flat piece of glass with a small heater underneath to dry up the excess butane liquid. Then I shake the tube when it looks like nothing is left to get out excess liquid. Then let it sit for a bit and dry up and scrap with razor and usually need lighter to melt off of the lighter onto a bowl or somethin you want to store it in. I bought bubble bags now and wish I had them before because the hash you get is a lot better, safer, and healthier. Good luck! Be safe!
     
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    does any1 no if males can be used for anything smokeable
     
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    you're right! keife must be pressed before it is technically called 'hash'..
    If thc is water soluble, then exactly what am I catching in my screens?..
    Why do the trichomes 'not' dissolve?..
    Are trichomes not nearlly pure thc?
    Why doesn't everyone make oil useing "h20" as a solvent? (wouldn't that be a lot safer)..;)
    Different strains??.. If I don't grow a hash strain, I can't make hash from the trichomes?

    I'm sorry, but I and I believe the majority will agree, that "Hash" is made by collecting the trichomes, "in what ever manner", and pressing them until enough heat is generated to meld it into a single form.
    "Hash" is not made by extracting essential oils from the plant material.
    fer krise sakes, "research" it for yourself.
    I posted at least two links for you.
     
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    jeeeeez guys put your dukes down ? C-MON its friday high day !!!
    lets all get really stoned and then argue hahahaha......( impossible)
     
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    no no no, you misinterpreted.

    The screening method used to make kief, like you mentioned somewhere up there, is made from a less resinous, more powdery form of marijuana what most think of as fluffy sativa (known locally here as BC or B'sters). It makes blonde kief powder and is usually a light to lime color. This type requires pressure and/or heat to make a solid mass before it ever appears sticky.

    The water method, just like the alcohol, used to make hash involves the hydroxyl OH-. Found in both H20,+,-, Isopropyl alcohol, ethanol.......
    These REAGENTS, (I believe) are usually non-toxic, and have the ability to dissolve other nonpolar substances. This method (Like you stated above) is used in Afghanistan, Nepal...etc. and we think of that as indica or kush. This highly resinous type needs the kief to be spread on your table, hands, and jars like flour when using dough, to keep it from sticking to everything.

    Correct me if I'm wrong there, Im was never a very good chemist.

    You are catching different size grains that are variant on a whole crap* load of factors. Trichomes can dissolve when binding to a polar substance. These studies have not been conducted (that I know of) and I am very skeptical about taking stuff to school to use our equip to study.

    I have mounted some kief in a slide and observed it at 40,100, and 400x with the barlow lens, focal on, and did not get a 2V, extinction angle, color,...nothing. I put in a gypsum plate and could see only see grain size, the grains were isotropic (did not let light pass through). This means that kief is not at all a crystal, nor are trichomes in any way.

    Reminds me...I have stuck about an oz of dried BC in our school ROTAP. :rofl:





    You have some **** good questions that WILL get ansewred in our lifetimes...but, it is going to take some major univ. to allow studies to be conducted, or a major major MAJOR contributor to donate and fund years of projects, salaries, and equipment. That or legalize it.:)

    :bong:







    edit:
    Sorry fruity86 we missed ur question!:confused:

    No, IMO if they are males do not waste your time. Bury it in the yard. Deep.
     
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    hmmmmmmmm

    what form of less resinous or powdery form of marijuana would that be????

    cannabis sativa..?
    cannabis indica..?
    cannabis ruderalis..?

    does it turn lime colored because you are collecting and contaminating your trichomes "hash" withvegetave material........??????


    OK

    IMO

    The water method uses water simply as a medium to wash your cannabis in and the so called "Bubble Bags" are screens to seperate vegetive waste and collect your trichomes with.
    Ice and chilled water are often employed to cool the trichomes at which point they break away from the vegetive material much more freely and with care less contamination of your collected trichomes a higher grade "Hash" is often collected, subject to the quality of cannabis material used in this process.
    Therfore this process is nothing like any method using solvents.........

    Or

    maybe hick is collecting different size trichomes with as little contamination as possible with diligence care and understanding gained from research information learned and practiced.........;)
    from which hick then makes HASH.....



    no no no,

    I think you may have you misinterpreted the question and or questions at hand...........:rofl:
     
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    As stated:
    OK? I posted some of my own legitimate research and your response is OK. Well...I think we are done here. ;)


    Lets just agree that Hashish and Kief are 2 different products. That it is quite obvious they give different effects, are made different ways, and the processes used to make them originated from different strains which formulated the style of extraction. :)

    Peace :bong: ...off to post the first pics of my dried Bubba! :D
     
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    but but but... I find it ..ironic, that you wish to be soooo specific and particular about the particulars between hash and kiefe, yet call your f1 bubblegum cross "Bubba Kush"..

    NONE of th "hash" making methods include ANY essential oils extraction.. that's a fact not an "opinion".. :confused2:
    " The quality of hashish depends on the quality of the plants used and the sieving and pressing procedures."

    I'm pretty confident that I have provided the answers already..
     
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