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:shocked:... well imagine THAT!...:p
thanks ozzie ;). Sometimes I get tired of going and digging up the references for ppl that lack the ambition to do it for themselves.

ozzydiodude said:
From Clarke's Marijuana Botany
 
Limbing is another common method of pruning Cannabis plants. Many small limbs will usually grow from the bottom portions of the plant, and due to shading they re main small and fail to develop large floral clusters. If these atrophied lower limbs are removed, the plant can devote more of its floral energies to the top parts of the plant with the most sun exposure and the greatest chance of pollination. The question arises of whether removing entire limbs constitutes a shock to the growing plant, possibly limiting its ultimate size. It seems in this case that shock is minimized by removing entire limbs, including proportional amounts of stems, leaves, meristems, and flowers; this probably results in less metabolic imbalance than if only flowers, leaves, or meristems were removed. Also, the lower limbs are usually very small and seem of little significance in the metabolism of the total plant. In large plants, many limbs near the central stalk also become shaded and atrophied and these are also sometimes removed in an effort to increase the yield of large floral clusters on the sunny exterior margins.

Leafing is one of the most misunderstood techniques of drug Cannabis cultivation. In the mind of the cultivator, several reasons exist for removing leaves. Many feel that large shade leaves draw energy from the flowering plant, and therefore the flowering clusters will be smaller. It is felt that by removing the leaves, surplus energy will be available, and large floral clusters will be formed. Also, some feel that inhibitors of flowering, synthesized in the leaves during the long noninductive days of summer, may be stored in the older leaves that were formed during the noninductive photoperiod. Possibly, if these inhibitor-laden leaves are removed, the plant will proceed to flower, and maturation will be accelerated. Large leaves shade the inner portions of the plant, and small atrophied floral clusters may begin to develop if they receive more light.



boom!
in your own grow guide it says right there
nothing about fact
nothing about 100%
nothing about unnecessary stress

what i do see
is the words "may" or "could"
and it says cutting lower braches
leaves nodes and all
could be good for over all plant vigor
and furthermore it says leaves may be removed just dont over due it basically
so dont push your ways on me
i am not simple minded
far from it actually
 
You're right syke. The entire world of botany and science are wrong. You have far surpassed all of our experience and knowledge. Keep up the good work! spreading the truth and disproving all of our lies.
THANK YOU!...
 
There is no comparision between cutting off large fan leaves and trimming bottom branches--these are entirely different procedures that produce entirely different results. You have been given the sccientific information. If you choose to ignore it, that is your right. And, JFYI, 1 lb off an outdoor plant is not a good yield.
 
NO PROBLEM
i love teaching the ignorant
to read between the lines
and not trust government

just like the lie they released about Bin Laden
to raise obamas rep
and give our troops hope
that there lives arent being wasted away
over stupid bunk
 
1 pound isnt alot for your first grow
off of 1 plant?
lol
u guys are just buttered because i wont back down
i beleive what i want
and not what some 50 yr old man who has been growning lanky thai weed since the 70's
technology changes expand ur mind
stop beleiving what everyone tells u
 
we're ..."buttered" :confused2: because you're showing the entire planet how ignorant you really are. No one here believes you, or is listening to your faked picture or your false information. They, like I, are simply not going to be dragged to "your" level. .
The facts are their for everyone to see and make their own mind up.
Believe a "self proclaimed" expert, or believe the facts and the scientific evidence that is presented. :) backed up with decades of experience.

btw, I'm "post" 50 year old man. And I have probably threw more bud out the window of my truck after rolling a joint, than you have seen.
I'm not afraid or ashamed to post "my own" pictures, are you?.. ;)
 
lmao buttered
means ur butt hurt
and i never proclaimed to be an expert either smart one
faked pictures huh?
i got tht on the internet because my plants dont look like tht u idiot
and because u cant keep ur site secure enough to keep hackers out
i couldnt show u all my pictures
and its funny how u speak for everyone
they can make there decisions
but one thing is for sure
u dont have one grow journal
to show off anything
so as far as im concerned u are nothing but a book worm
who thinks he has experience
 
Put up or shutup kid.. "show" your superior skills and methods or go fly a kite.
I won't tolerate your name calling or any more exhibitions of your childish ignorance and insults.
You have "nothing" but your unsubstantiated "claims".
It's a very poor excuse for not posting pictures. And an "excuse" is ALL it is. You have NOTHING... :eek:
 
one of the few flowering pictures i have left
this is one week into flower
only two of the 3
both pushin 7'+ in this picture

how did i know the KID joke was gonna come out
lmao u dont know me
i have nothing? like i said ur the almighty mod who has no GJ
wow thts a really good mod
its funny how u assume all this sweet and soft spoken suggestions
when u know the site got hacked and theres nothing left
old man go take ur Viagra
take ur denchers out
kick back on ur lazy susan
and leave the good work to the youthful

i cant say wht i want
but u can call me an ignorant kid?
who knows nothing
when in actuality u dont know fuzzy bunny ears about me

now thts wht i call some good light penetration:p

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lol its ok ozzy u can hate on me too
i know wht i grew
and if u wanna recover those pics for me(oh wait u cant)
i could show u how much they exploded after that point
u see those posts in the backround
they are 10' 4x4

and if u were paying attention ozzy
i said that i take the BIG leaves off that block lower node sun exposure
not remove every water leaf the plant produces

and if u guys stick around you will see my monsters this year
tht are growing in a space 3x times the space i had last year
and u will envy every minute of it
 
I'm not hating on you but don't tell lies and expect us not to jump on you. It's ppl that tell lies that make the mj sites look bad to begin with.
they may have been 10 ft 4"x4" to start but 12+inches are in the ground. I was looking at the 4x8 sheet of lattice setting behind the plants and they are not twice their height.
 
thts funny how im lying but ur the one who can tell my lattice dimension
by a pictures, but if u werent lying about tht.
u would have said tht they are 36 inches by 7'
how can u tell me im lying ozzy?
and also keep in mind u arent reading still
i said in the picture they are roughly one week into flower
the 10' post is buried yes between 12-16"
tht leaves about 9ft out of the ground
the lattice in the picture was leaning can u tell that too?
can u also tell that the lattice isnt even connected?

and if u guys are as "all knowing" as u say
then u should know that some strains cant grow up to 3x there
pre-flowering size
sooo....:p
 
Actually I wouldn't because the only lattice that I know of that comes in 6' x 3' panels is unpainted Bamboo in the long diamond pattern.

All the upper big leaves are blocking light from getting to the lower parts of the plant. So why are you leaving them?
 
Syke said:
ive grown outdoors few times
and yeilded 3 pounds off of 3 plants
if it werent for the FBI hacking this **** and destroying everything
i could show u my 3 8' plants
for my FIRST grow OD EVER!

i dont know why u are trying to compete hick
u have something personal against me or something
but go ahead drop my rep again like u did last year
i dont care

i have my opinion u have yours
show me where it says pruning is bad and causes slow growth
and show me how good of a grower the person is who wrote it is,
and ill still practice my way

lol @stoney u just proved me right
u said" everything green produces photosynthesis"
so if a lower leaf does not collect light it gets the last of or a$$ end of the energy
tht is already used throughout the rest of the plant.
which in turn creates lower scraggle buds
with minimal trichs tht are clear.

furthermore the relationship between light to a bud site are important
proven by all of your guys lower nasty buds

"proven by all of your guys nasty lower buds"

Grow up sonny
 
Those are really sweet syke.
but look, mine are way over this mooses head, standing at around 7 feet at the shoulder.
I thought you grew "trees"...
oops, lost the picture :p gimme a minute syke, don't write me off just yet ;)

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I am not sure why you think everyone is hating on you Syke....what you are saying is dead wrong and goes against the facts in Marijuana Botany....the fact that you think the bud sites need light to produce tricks(trichs) says you don't really understand how MJ grows. Trimming the sucker branches where the popcorn buds usually grow is not the same as trimming leaves. The fan leaves collect the sun that is used to make all the goodies on the buds...can you trim fan leaves and still get good yields? Yes but trimming them did not help you at all....if anything your yields wld be bigger if you left most of the leaves alone. Jmo

By the way this topic gets hot every time it is brought up....it is not worth getting into a pissing match over that is for sure.
 
i leave those because the sun move thus the angle of the sunlight hits it later
i only trim leave for light exposure to lower growth or to lighten a dark area
kinda like the picture i posted

ill post my bunk and ill compare to yours
come time
 
Syke said:
i cant say wht i want
but u can call me an ignorant kid?
who knows nothing
when in actuality u dont know **** about me

:p

Well we know somthing about you, we know your posting wrong info,

everyone else is wrong, but your right, keep telling yourself that.
 

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