I have been doing tons of reading on water curing finally tried it.

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So it's not as harsh? My lungs could use a break sometimes. Maybe I could wash a little cured weed. Wonder if that would work.
 

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I never did it to really strong high THC weed myself , but reg/ 15% comes out good.
But the taste is totally gone and I love the taste.
Let eating out for dinner when you have covid , why bother if you can not taste it, Just like women.............
 

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I’ve read many accounts of people that have done that and they got almost nothing. will know how it is in 24 hours or so
I’m just very analytical so bear with me… I’m assuming the purpose is to “seal in” and co-laterally seal the moisture in to the trichome and the trichome to the flower… excess moisture will “wash” the tri before sealing it… presumably, and freezing will harden and freeze, disrupting adhesion… sonwhy don’t you pack a “thermos” type container (something shatter proof) but insulated enough not to freeze immediately (slower the better) and also put a humidity pack in… it might do the slow cryo you’re trying to achieve…. I suspect the tris were washed, and away goes the smell but it’s (as you described) sounds like an attempt to “marinate” with “too much sauce” in the pan… maybe that’s why they say risky. But i would only try that if I throughly tested the water ( as an army water purification specialist… and even then before i attempt personally, i would take a quick course in “infusion” so you know what happene to the tri when it breaks down… bc in my head, it more oil thAn water…. So an emulsifier additive is something you should small scale consider… if you kinda agree with the “washing machine “ theory. But I’m the dude that thinks an air stone goes in the circulation tank as a mandatory line item.
Just my opinion… but lemme see what you say so I know if my meds are holding up this am . 🤣
 

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The water cure will shrink the buds down so it will be stronger LOL
Back in the day, there were "recipes" to allegedly make your weed stronger. There were some funky books available like :A Childs Garden of Grass, Pot, and a few others that suggested these tricks. we tried two: One was a dismal fail. It was some kind of treatment that wetted and jared buried like Kimchi and then redried. WOW. Stinkarama. threw that away. The other method was pouring boiling water through the pot, redrying to a much smaller volume, but allegedly having lost no THC, it would be stronger. We thought that may have worked. But you had less weed, we didnt like that! It was smoother, but we liked the "great weed taste" of those icky 1/2 composted bricks.....

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So it's not as harsh? My lungs could use a break sometimes. Maybe I could wash a little cured weed. Wonder if that would work.
I have read and it doesn’t matter. Cured, dry, or fresh. But be careful when packing the jars. It all swells up. Both my quart jars had to be repacked into two jars each.
 

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Back in the day, there were "recipes" to allegedly make your weed stronger. There were some funky books available like :A Childs Garden of Grass, Pot, and a few others that suggested these tricks. we tried two: One was a dismal fail. It was some kind of treatment that wetted and jared buried like Kimchi and then redried. WOW. Stinkarama. threw that away. The other method was pouring boiling water through the pot, redrying to a much smaller volume, but allegedly having lost no THC, it would be stronger. We thought that may have worked. But you had less weed, we didnt like that! It was smoother, but we liked the "great weed taste" of those icky 1/2 composted bricks.....

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Dr Golds 1st extraction machine used Acid to change the weed somehow.
@Tattered Old Graywolf knows , he did a few studies for Dr Gold I do believe
 

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Cool. Might try that on weed that makes me cough.
try a few buds 1st then see if you like it.
I enjoy the flavor of my weed to much to wash it all away.
The water removes the terpenes (the smell so to say) thus no smell anymore while the resin glands remain (THC CBD and the other good things remain)
 

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Dr Golds 1st extraction machine used Acid to change the weed somehow.
@Tattered Old Graywolf knows , he did a few studies for Dr Gold I do believe
Probably isomerization. My 70's Isomerizer performed that trick, which leads to a modern trick.... Some of the CBD in the weed is the exact same molecule as THC, except one particle is rotated to a different location, resulting in CBD. By extracting with ethanol then peculating the alch/oil mixture with a specific amount of reagent grade sulphuric acid, amount based on amount of weed extracted. After 1 1/2 hrs or so, cool down, treated with sodium bicard to neutralize the acid. Filter. This procedure rotates that particle to turn that mirror image CBD molecule to a THC molecule.

Modern trick....OK we can buy basically pure CBD cheap. So, wouldnt it work to dissolve CBD in alcohol and perform isomerization?

If you have doubts about the process (Isomerization) there is a very nice work up in the American Journal of Chemistry, where I first heard of Isoing weed oil.

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Probably isomerization. My 70's Isomerizer performed that trick, which leads to a modern trick.... Some of the CBD in the weed is the exact same molecule as THC, except one particle is rotated to a different location, resulting in CBD. By extracting with ethanol then peculating the alch/oil mixture with a specific amount of reagent grade sulphuric acid, amount based on amount of weed extracted. After 1 1/2 hrs or so, cool down, treated with sodium bicard to neutralize the acid. Filter. This procedure rotates that particle to turn that mirror image CBD molecule to a THC molecule.

Modern trick....OK we can buy basically pure CBD cheap. So, wouldnt it work to dissolve CBD in alcohol and perform isomerization?

If you have doubts about the process (Isomerization) there is a very nice work up in the American Journal of Chemistry, where I first heard of Isoing weed oil.

Bubba
I have the newest version of Dr Golds ISO 3 machine
Did not really like the way it worked
Waste of my money
 

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I have the newest version of Dr Golds ISO 3 machine
Did not really like the way it worked
Waste of my money
Isomerizer, well it did extract! And I mean everything, the good the bad and the ugly.

Extracted material was light tan, not a speck of green left.

The isomerization process had mixed results.
Using ditch weed, it would create some oil that would get you stoned, where in the weed would not get anything high. Better pot, well it didn't increase so much as a rule. But once in a while...

Circa '77, buddy grows Columbian Gold seeds. Obviously sativa, they were good sized back yard trees, 6-7 ft tall, no sign of budding.

Return from class, and he sees city notice on door. Complaint regarding need to cut weeds in back yard!

We did cut it, hung it up and dried. We had a lot of "shake" what a bummer. Well we roll one up and start smoking. Tasted like lawn trimmings, but was surprisingly strong. Actually (except taste) was quite smokable, for effect. It was not as strong as the gold the seeds came from, but considerably stronger than the basic Columbian of the day.

Took a 1/4 lbs., Isomerized it, and created some 1-2 toke wonder. Everyone was coming to work red eyed, snuck right up on them.

Normally not the case, rather just start with good weed. Plus, the oil was more like black tar. Too many impurities. But it did reduce it down to where you could redissolve in petroleum ether, or other non-polar solvent and get nice red oil. Smaller amount are safer to work with, most non-polar solvent are explosion danger worse than gasoline. I never attempted to recover ether, just poured it in pyrex dish, in sun. Something gets in it? Redissolve in alcohol, filter, evaporate.

The whole process sort of soured me on it. Too bad those rosin presses weren't around then.

Bubba
 

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