Leaf curling down on some of my plant

[GreenWizard]

For a few days i had leaf from a few plant starting to curl down from the bottom of the plant. I have been watering normally when they need it.
They are in a very N rich soil (shrimp) and I have been feeding them wirh 5-3-2 chicken manure every 2 weeks or so .
The first 5 pic are crack berry started from seeds around may 1st. The rest is cbd cheese auto flo and the last picture is kali X OGKush as u can see that one is not affected and the cheese leaf dont curl but they start to turn down and they are very dark green.

I cant figure out what cause this.
I know the crack berry need re-pots soon but i dont think it would cause this.

 

[GreenWizard]

Today

 

[Wny_outdoorsman]

How old are your plants, what size are those containers and are indoor,? What light source and what is the medium they are growing in?

 

[pcduck]

Over watered

Hot source of nitrogen

 

[The Hemp Goddess]

I'm thinking that they look overwatered, too. Tell us about your soil--what all is in it. I am thinking that maybe it is not draining well and keeping the plants waterlogged. And like duck mentioned, chicken manure is quite a hot source of N.

 

[GreenWizard]

Hm i think you guys are right. I did not realised how wet the midleof the pot is. I killed a male today so i could check the roots. Also inoticed the compost and soil mix i use have a extra wAter retaining formula.... what would be a a good solution to save my girls here?

 

[tcbud]

Both of your bigs in the pics say helps retain water. You need some soil conditioning there. Something that drains well. You could also try watering less, wait for them to dry out some between watering. Water meters are pretty cheap, could try that to monitor the plants.

 

[The Hemp Goddess]

I would repot them in a better soil mixture. You have a long way to go here. You don't really want anything that retains water with cannabis. Check online for good soil mixtures. I always use perlite in my soil mixtures.

 

[GreenWizard]

I would repot them in a better soil mixture. You have a long way to go here. You don't really want anything that retains water with cannabis. Check online for good soil mixtures. I always use perlite in my soil mixtures.

Thats exactly what i did, the guy at the gardens center told me the mixture i was using is terrible for that, it keeps water too much...
I repoted them, hopefully they recover, one of my lady is looking pretty grim.

Here i have a pic of the roots of the dampest one
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Thanks for all the replies, I will keep you guys updated.

 

[umbra]

ph is off

 

[Wny_outdoorsman]

I'm thinking that they look overwatered, too. Tell us about your soil--what all is in it. I am thinking that maybe it is not draining well and keeping the plants waterlogged. And like duck mentioned, chicken manure is quite a hot source of N.

Water retension 4 sure thats what I thought when I 1ST saw them and after seeing later pics of medium and roots Imma convinced ...... get al0t more perlite or vermaculite in the new mix!! Root rot is a killer .....fortunately they are young and strong but if they were mine i'd start over or if big dollar seeds I might try cuttings from them.......because the strain they endured will undoubtly effect them unfortunately these girls aren't forgiving!!!

 

[umbra]

vermiculite will retain water. Perlite

 

[Wny_outdoorsman]

vermiculite will retain water. Perlite

either is better than none ... I always use perlite bc it's the only one I can find in large pieces

 

[umbra]

https://gardenerdy.com/perlite-vs-vermiculite-which-is-better-for-your-garden

 

[Wny_outdoorsman]

Well interesting article I have both products for the same purpose .... aeration haven't used vermsculite in some time in my mixes as I said I found perlite from a local landscape wholesale in bulk use it for all my delicate flowers .ie and it's in chunks 1" 2" dia. By time I get it mixed with other amendments there's still big chunks the stuff in that article (perlite) looks smaller when I used it it seemed to break down to small and end up at bottom of containers or wash out

 

[pcduck]

Ummmmm... I have never seen perlite in cube form. Are you sure you are using perlite and not rockwool or florist foam bricks?

Perlite is composed of white, porous granules, that have sharp edges.

 

[Wny_outdoorsman]

Ummmmm... I have never seen perlite in cube form. Are you sure you are using perlite and not rockwool or florist foam bricks?

It's not cubed it's just larger pieces than the little pieces pictured and yes sure it's perlite however I have no idea where they get it but i love it


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They talk about it being easily broke down, the stuff I get is from local nursery in bulk they load my pickup truck bed with a frontloader and it's quite reasonable

 

[pcduck]

I use the large chunk/course perlite, but it is only 1/2", maybe 3/4" occasionally. Most of it is smaller.

My thoughts with perlite is the more surface area the better to hold air and microbes.

 

[Wny_outdoorsman]

Actually no it's not they say Average Size Range: 0.132" to 0.187"

 

[Wny_outdoorsman]

I use the large chunk/course perlite, but it is only 1/2", maybe 3/4" occasionally. Most of it is smaller.

My thoughts with perlite is the more surface area the better to hold air and microbes.

Yes that's what I have always used until i happened onto this