Lights for 5x5 coverage

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It is the right choice to go with SP250. The Spider Farmer 4000 looks amazing too.
Yeah. Im trying to find the difference between the hlg550 and spiderfarmer 4000. Samsung diodes with a mean well driver. The hlg is 200
Or 300 dollars more.
 

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One difference is the spiderfarmer uses ‘dideos’... ;)

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Read some reviews of HLG on reddit and most people say their customer service and communication is really bad. Couldn’t find much info on their warranty. Poorly designed website...
 

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Yeah. Im not seeing what the extra 300 dollars gets me. So far im 85 percent spiderfarmer fs4000.
 

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Gavita 1700e will just about cover a 5 x 5. Its not cheap though.
1700 umol.
Gavita is around 635w actual draw.

1000w Hortilux HPS is 1600 umol

1150w Gavita DE is 2100 umol.
 

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Def. Not Cheap....i have checked that out. It shows stats for a 4x4 grow but i could work. Its just the price of 3 spiderfarmer lights or 2 hlg 550
 

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Yeah Im more in line with 4 x 4 because its only 100 more umol vs the Hortilux HPS, which I consider to be the standard of which all other single ended HID are compared, and its geared for 4 x 4.

Consider this, which I fell is misleading.

The best Spyder Farmer light I could find, that says will replace a 1000w HID is only 1217 umol vs 1600 umol.....25% more for the HID 1600. MORE for the 1700e 28%-29%

They also rate this light for up to a 6 x 6????? 5 x 5 in Flowering??? Which I feel is overestimating the capability of the light.
And the Gavita is 1700 umol???
Gavita recommends replacing the 1000w HID with 1700e, and I believe them. If its 1700 umol from 645w, its a very powerful light for the watts.

This one also states Lumens. Though I don't know the lumens of the Gavita, the Hortilux HPS is 145,000 lumens. 9000+ Lumes sq/ft The Spyer is less than 80,000.

The sun is 10,000-12,000 lumens sq/ft


Spider farmer SF4000 full spectrum led grow light replace 1000W HID

Specification SF-4000
Spectrum 660-665nm,3000K,5000K, IR 760nm
Par Value 1217umol/s
Coverage Veg:6x6ft Flower:5x5ft
Lumen 79296Lm±5%@AC120V 79095Lm±5%@AC240V 79395Lm±5%@AC27

 

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Yeah. 5x5 flowering for that 1 light is wishful thinking. I am finding that 800 to 900 umol is from my kind led is a bit much for the plants. I have to back it way off or they show signs of stress. Im thinking i will get the spider farmer or hlg and run it with my 2 sp250 lights. That gives me around 850 watts to cover my space with. That gavita led is a bit on the pricey side, and its a bit much for not running any co2.
 

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Two Viparspecta R900's in a 5x5 tent. Works great, full coverage.
 

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What is the wall draw and out put on those?
 

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I looked at their website. 405 watts. Looks like the PAR is really focused in the center and drops off rapidly as you move away from the sweet spot...

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Hmm. I think i want to stick to full spectrum anyhoo
 

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I did end up going with the spiderfarmer sf 4000. I will post my ongoing impressions.
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does anyone have experience with the 900w G8? Supposed to cover a 5x5 with crazy canopy penetration.
 

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I have 3 of those Viparspectra 900's in a 4'x9' area. They have produced ok but not what I had hoped for. Best I have tried for veg but didn't do as well in flower. I have 2 of the sp250's in a 4x4 and I'm liking them a lot better. Haven't tried the G8 lights, kinda had to focus funds in other directions.
 

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I have 2 of those sp250s. They are a quality light. I would need 2 or 3 more to get the same coverage. Im not opposed to a bunch of sp250s hanging around though.
I heard Mars sell the daisy chain cord that can put three SP250 together.
 

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Yeah Im more in line with 4 x 4 because its only 100 more umol vs the Hortilux HPS, which I consider to be the standard of which all other single ended HID are compared, and its geared for 4 x 4.

Consider this, which I fell is misleading.

The best Spyder Farmer light I could find, that says will replace a 1000w HID is only 1217 umol vs 1600 umol.....25% more for the HID 1600. MORE for the 1700e 28%-29%

They also rate this light for up to a 6 x 6????? 5 x 5 in Flowering??? Which I feel is overestimating the capability of the light.
And the Gavita is 1700 umol???
Gavita recommends replacing the 1000w HID with 1700e, and I believe them. If its 1700 umol from 645w, its a very powerful light for the watts.

This one also states Lumens. Though I don't know the lumens of the Gavita, the Hortilux HPS is 145,000 lumens. 9000+ Lumes sq/ft The Spyer is less than 80,000.

The sun is 10,000-12,000 lumens sq/ft


Spider farmer SF4000 full spectrum led grow light replace 1000W HID

Specification SF-4000
Spectrum 660-665nm,3000K,5000K, IR 760nm
Par Value 1217umol/s
Coverage Veg:6x6ft Flower:5x5ft
Lumen 79296Lm±5%@AC120V 79095Lm±5%@AC240V 79395Lm±5%@AC27

The data is not bad. sumsung diodes might make it better.
 

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