My town and COVID-19

[rubrown]

Traffic is back a 90%, people are out walking down Main st in groups of 2 and 5. I haven't been to the store in 48 hours, last time I was there (fareway) everything was stocked TP, Meat, everything. Signs were posted for customers to stay 6 ft away from each other while standing in line. Walmart 3 days earlier was completely wiped out of everything. So, here in North Michigan right now 3-26-20 it's like nothing happened. No one appears concerned nor is anyone wearing masks or social distancing. People are speaking in whispers while shopping. That's it. Thanks to everyone for participating. May God Bless America!

 

[hollowpoint]

We have a new order to stay at home from the local City Government...State is still just a 10pm to 5am curfew....supplies have all most returned to normal here just like ru's area. I have noticed one thing here....traffic is 10-15% of normal...State police do not have their radar on anymore...everybody is flying out there..today on 65mph posted 4 lane road...big truck I paced was doing 84mph...they ALL seem to be going at the trucks top speed. Guess that is one way to hurry things along and with the low traffic count safety is not being compromised...much. Yesterday at our local grocery it was up-beat mood wise...they managers were standing around with a "job well done look" on their restocked store. There are groups that seem to take it harder than others...most in these parts do not worry much. Stay safe ...hopefully Summer will be the end of it.

 

[stinkyattic]

We're down to a near skeleton crew at work with folks taking leave... guy with nasty form of Crohns, guy with chronic pneumonia issues, guy who lost his childcare, etc.
Bestie (teacher) is home making instructional videos for her kiddos and the den table is a primary school art room until further notice. Dog is delighted to interrupt taping on set.
I live across from a major conservation and recreation area and foot traffic is heavy but folks seem to be respectful of space.
Downtown is eerily quiet- there's still traffic but for the first time since our economic renaissance took hold, there are magical PARKING SPACES!!! Not like anything's open though.
I saw a guy rollerblading down the street with a hockey stick. Not sure where he was headed, but nice day for whatever shenanigans you're up to, you knife-footed ice gremlin!
Everything still feels like time has stopped. I hope the powers that be don't jump the gun on declaring us Open For Business again. Our local nursing homes are now having an outbreak. It's gonna be a long haul to kick this one.
Be in good health, friends

 

[Lesso]

Everyone is flying on the roads here too. I was going 80 and cars were wizzing past like i was slow.
I read some thing about spanish flu. It sort of died off on the summer that year. People went back to work. Everything seemed normal. Then fall came and by winter 20 million died. That virus killed more people than world war 1. It resurged when we let our guard down. Im worried on this one folks. No one around here is taking it very seriously. As soon as the cases drop, and we go back to work like the government wants us to, i think the resurgence will happen on this one too.

 

[stinkyattic]

Everyone is flying on the roads here too. I was going 80 and cars were wizzing past like i was slow.
I read some thing about spanish flu. It sort of died off on the summer that year. People went back to work. Everything seemed normal. Then fall came and by winter 20 million died. That virus killed more people than world war 1. It resurged when we let our guard down. Im worried on this one folks. No one around here is taking it very seriously. As soon as the cases drop, and we go back to work like the government wants us to, i think the resurgence will happen on this one too.

This exactly. The Spanish flu also managed to mutate into a less virulent strain that took longer to show symptoms, and thus was spread to more people due to not knowing they were carriers due to average slower onset. This is the lesson we should have learned: viruses operate on the same evolutionary principle as everything else- survival of the fittest. A virus that makes its host quickly immobile (=less spread) and then kills them is not evolutionarily ideal. Evolution for a pathogen, be it a virus, parasite, fungus, amoeba, whatever means optimizing spread. And that requires a living host.
If we don't kill this thing dead (=stop spread so it peters out in its existing hosts before they infect others) before it evolves, we're gonna end up with flu round two.

 

[stinkyattic]

Also the Spanish totally got boned on that, it didn't start there but they got in some political feud and got it pinned on them. Lol the endless cycle...

 

[The Hemp Goddess]

LOL--it is kind of funny when you realize that your normal lifestyle is social isolation and distancing. I have not "been to town" since the 17th and have no idea how supplies in stores are. We have seen 2 other couples who we are friends with a couple of times and I am having some electrical work done on the place, but that is the extent of our interaction with other people over the last 11 days.

Lesso, I have concerns like you do. While many think that there is a lot of over-reaction, I am not one of them. I am very concerned about us letting our guard down wanting things to get back to normal too quickly and having this thing explode on us in the fall and winter months when people seem more susceptible. I am somewhat surprised, too, by the people that seem unconcerned. My ex-husband is going through chemo, but feels it is okay to just pop out to do a bit of shopping several times a week. A woman I did volunteer work with doesn't want to miss church even though she has numerous health issues. We don't have many cases here in southern OR, but that is all the more reason to not let your guard down.

 

[rubrown]

LOL--it is kind of funny when you realize that your normal lifestyle is social isolation and distancing. I have not "been to town" since the 17th and have no idea how supplies in stores are. We have seen 2 other couples who we are friends with a couple of times and I am having some electrical work done on the place, but that is the extent of our interaction with other people over the last 11 days.

Lesso, I have concerns like you do. While many think that there is a lot of over-reaction, I am not one of them. I am very concerned about us letting our guard down wanting things to get back to normal too quickly and having this thing explode on us in the fall and winter months when people seem more susceptible. I am somewhat surprised, too, by the people that seem unconcerned. My ex-husband is going through chemo, but feels it is okay to just pop out to do a bit of shopping several times a week. A woman I did volunteer work with doesn't want to miss church even though she has numerous health issues. We don't have many cases here in southern OR, but that is all the more reason to not let your guard down.

Agreed, here in my state within 12 hours of the Governor order to stay home,Traffic went back to normal people got in their cars, filled up there gas tanks and went for a joy ride. Now, deaths from C-19 doubled and then quadrupled in my state. I think that each and every one of us, as American citizens need to re-evaluate the collective intelligence of our fellow Americans. Then realize that criminal, insectoid-hive mindset is and has been actively destroying, step by step the solidarity of the good, decent, moral American people. Traffic and activity is just about normal, last time I was out people were coughing in public without covering their mouths, there was no social distancing at all. We have 3,000 confirmed cases in this state, 2 cases in my county and approx 100 people have passed for state totals..

 

[stinkyattic]

New data coming out of italy, South korea, and Washington state looking at asymptomatic spreaders is enough to make me want to lock my doors and hide in the basement for 2-4 months.

My town is doing this cute but possibly ill-advised morale boosting thing where residents put teddy bears in the front window and families drive or walk around with their kids looking for them. I'm uneasy about it. Sure I guess if you don't get out of the car it's "safe ", but we shouldn't be encouraging people to go out, period.

 

[hollowpoint]

We have a wide range of reactions here now...we are gaining cases and Nawlins LA due to Mardi Gras is leading the pack in the South. I wore mask and gloves in Walmart this morning for the first time...supplies while accommodating was lower than middle of the week...children are no where to be scene hardly. I am noticing a lot more people rambling around....walking and 4 wheeler's...that nervous energy is building out there. Stay at home orders without enforcement will not make much difference....then comes the big question...America is freedom loving...would we give that up to a National enforcement of a stay at home order without rebellion??...who knows. I have adjusted to the social distancing thing...it has restored manners and discipline in us ...unfortunately it took a pandemic to do it.

 

[robisontransport3500]

I can guarantee you that there is at least one Utahn that will never comply with illegal orders given by any state or federal agency. That being said I’m not coughing on people or generally around people. I’m a mechanic and unless I hear that a SBC (small block Chevy) was found to be a carrier I think I’ll be just fine.
Now back to the concerns of many, of your really that scared (and actually think you have control over a virus) then stay shut in, stay distant, that is your Right as a human being before God. Please though remember that your fears, while legitimate, do not give you any authority, whatsoever, to deprive another human being of Liberty. In this country Rights are recognized as natural, inherent, and governments are established by the CONSENT of the governed. Therefore no, the collective “need” if it can so be called, in no way, has a higher priority than the preservation of INDIVIDUAL Rights. Now as I said I will never comply with unlawful regulation, never have been able to swallow that pill.
In my opinion a lot of people are over reacting, it’s a virus, we as the human race are more resilient than to succumb to the common cold. That being said I understand full well that this is a mutation and is dangerous, particularly to those otherwise afflicted with other ailments. I would like to make an observation that may bring some comfort. None of us are making it out of here alive! Lol I know that’s shocking, but I promise it is true, I have done detailed research and have only found one report of a man still alive among us, only 1. So the guarantee is, you will die, hopefully not for a long long time, the cdc says that in America every year 79,000 people die from diabetes (yes I understand that some people naturally have this but I’m making a point, possibly not a good one but it’s a point ) so until I see legislation banning spoons, Ice cream, and soda, I don’t want to hear about the idea even of an abuse of power such as an enforcement of a quarantine under color of Law, that is not how Law works in this Nation.
I will continue to support my community in any way possible and we are still going forward with our community Garden this year “Liberty Gardens of Utah - where we propagate the ideals of true Liberty to the next Generation. I look forward to the warmer weather, the friendships, the fun and laughter of the children playing together, and most importantly to see people work together, work for food, to secure their own future, and to pass on the skills of gardening, and the wisdom of understanding that Liberty means that even if you don’t like something, you extend the grace of understanding that it is not your life.

“Those who would sacrifice essential Liberty, for Perceived safety deserve neither.” Benjamin Franklin.

Sorry for the rant folks, I hope in some way this provides hope for someone out there that is struggling, I’m sorry our governments have put so many people out of work in the name of “safety”

 

[cardgenius]

Whew! and here I was thinking this was all real as 100s of thousands of people are in the hospital and 20,000+ have died from COVID-19 in just a matter of weeks but I guess it’s just a figment of all our collective imaginations since Mr. Messiah, aka @robinsontrasport3500 has come to tell us all that hes done research and we all have nothing to worry about. Hes obviously smarter than all the doctors and scientists who actually went to school and got degrees in these fields because you know, FREEDOM.

 

[stinkyattic]

Yeah. This is definitely NOT what Ben Franklin was talking about...

I thought this thread was for posting regional/local updates, and checking in with our online buddies, not sociopolitical manifestos.

 

[The Hemp Goddess]

And no one has absolute rights. Freedom of speech does not give you the right to yell "Fire" in a crowded theater or to slander other people. And there are times when the collective need will absolutely political name (no pun intended) the rights of the individual. It is ignorant people who think they know more than medical personnel and scientists that has made this worse than it should be. Only a selfish immoral individual would think that THEIR individual rights were above keeping tens of thousands of people from dying. And while I love that quote from Franklin, I don't think it applies here as it uses the word "perceived". We have a real danger here and those who ignore the stay-home orders are just so incredibly selfish and immoral--how in the @#$% do you justify this?

 

[robisontransport3500]

did I say there is nothing to worry about? Did I say this wasn’t real? Just because you are scared do not attempt to twist what I say.

for every case of the virus in America we have closed down and lost 200 jobs. Your panic is affecting 200 more people for every case in the country.

as for “smarter than all the scientists and doctors” I’m listening and reading private publications from some of the best doctors/medical institutions in the world, but THOSE doctors never make it on your beloved cnn, fox, CNBC, news programs. If you will pull your collective head out of the sand and look at what is actually going on, you will realize that there is a very very high probability (not guarantee) that the economic repercussions from how this has been handled will far outlive the devastation that the families of the infected are going through.

as for the concept of the individual right does not outweigh the collective, there are many many socialist countries in the world, I invite you to travel to some of them and report how that philosophy suits you then.

this was never intended to be a manifesto, believe me that’s a separate subject completely, this was intended to be a beacon of hope, even if to only one person. An invitation to not live in fear, and a request to not allow your fears to make you support the further oppression of your fellow Americans in the name of safety. However I do not imagine I will sway many hearts or minds in this forum.

to the notion that my post was not an update on my local community, it was, every Tuesday and Thursday and Saturday at my residence, which sits on 4.5 acres, we gather as a community, we do some work to get the garden ready for the spring. We laugh and smile, and tell stories about happier times.

Your fears are your choice.

“God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
courage to change the things I can,
and wisdom to know the difference.”
Reinhold Niebuhr

 

[The Hemp Goddess]

I am not scared. I am being cautious and following the advise of those who know. If you have to go digging for your information, I would question it. It is a fallacy that you cannot get real news from the real new stations.

 

[Locked]

Well things are starting to hit a little too close to home now. We were informed shortly before noon today via the DIAD, the gizmo you sign on for a delivery, that my building has its first confirmed case of COVID 19. The employee is in quarantine and they said they disinfected the area. A source of mine says it is not a Driver but a Manager.

 

[umbra]

Hmmm. This is a cannabis growing site. While this thread is a bit off topic from that, everyone posting has shown their right to speak by showing their grow skills but robinson. Perhaps if you would like people to respect what you have to say, about this or anything for that matter … PUT UP or SHUT UP. You got skillz, post it up. You want to run with the big dogs, or you want to sit on the porch?

 

[AladinSane]

I agree that this is a cannabis growing site, but this beer virus concerns us all. Basically, no growers, eventually no grow site. Dire ? That's what the powers that be want you to think. Truth ? Only time will tell. So far, the county I live in has no confirmed cases of the virus.

 

[robisontransport3500]

Hmmm. This is a cannabis growing site. While this thread is a bit off topic from that, everyone posting has shown their right to speak by showing their grow skills but robinson. Perhaps if you would like people to respect what you have to say, about this or anything for that matter … PUT UP or SHUT UP. You got skillz, post it up. You want to run with the big dogs, or you want to sit on the porch?

Day 23

it’s Robison

and I thought a government over each subject would be much more openly accepted than this especially here, but I guess EVERY SINGLE member of this forum is in a recreational state and doesn’t need to worry about being assaulted and kidnapped under color of law for growing a plant........