I ordered some 100 purp seeds from reeferman, and they have been lackluster to say the least. Out of 6 attempted only 2 have germed. I destroyed one on accident. And the other one that germed, well, I can't tell if its doing anything at all. I know you gotta let nature do her thing.. And maybe I am spoiled from cloning,cause I don't have to go through the seeding process. Just wanted to know, how long you peeps have waited on a seed to show definate signs survival. And one more thing, if the seed takes forever to sprout, are these tell-tale signs of her growing habits? FYI: I use water submersion to pop, 5.5 watered rockwool to sprout, warm enviro.