When do I stop defoilating?

[jchern22]

Auto train wreck is 2 to 3 weeks in flower do I stop trimming off the fan leaves or do I clip the larger ones blocking any other Bud sites Or are those fan leaves the ones providing energy to the buds. First timer, I have been randomly clipping but my instincts are telling me to stop now

 

[boo]

the leaves look a little droopy but still ok...take the big fans out, they have the thickest stems...leave the sugar leaves and other small ones unless they are shielding flowers below from the light...try and perk up the plant, it's looking tired...

 

[jchern22]

Thanks Boo. What are some tricks of the trade you'd use to perk her up? Been looking like this last couple days
Let me guess..... more Cal-Mag!!!

 

[boo]

without knowing what's been fed to the plant I'd try a full flushing to runoff and then re examine the nutes...do you pH the mix when you feed...they just don't have that healthy aura plants give off...

 

[bigsur51]

like Boo suggested , flush them plants with some low Ph water , like 5.3 to 6.0 and I would also suggest testing the Ph of the runoff and if the runoff water has a high Ph , flush it again until the Ph coming out is about the same as going in

and at this stage of flower I would suggest some good flowering nutes

(you remembered the cal-mag so I won’t bring it up)

 

[Bugus_Monkey]

They do look just a smidge droopy. Nice, grow though. How long have the droopy leaves been exposed? Maybe a day or 2 under light and the droopy ones will perk up. I have read many places to only go 1/2 to 3/4 strength when mixing your solution mix for an auto. Worked for me the few times I grew autos.

 

[Carty]

Okay... you say these are Auto Flower so, their needs is a little different then photo periods..

causes of clawing.
#1 Too much wind or fans blowing to hard onto plants
#2. Over watering.. under watering can also cause this.
#3. Nitrogen toxicity, but your plants are not dark green..

Flush at 6.0. Feed at 1/4 strength, be sure to start using calmag until week 6 ish.

Hope you can get these dialed in, not to late.

Autos do not require nearly as much foods as photo periods and you could have it locked out and why the flush
is needed. whatever it says on the bottle, use 1/4 of it ok.. with autos, less is more.'

Wild Thailand Ryder Auto at day 68

 

[Carty]

Leaf Stripping... I do it twice. Once right when they go into flowering to remove a few larger shade leaf's blocking
direct light to the interior of the plant. then again at week 6. removing them more often then that or constantly causes a stress factor that can cause some strains to react poorly. Many of them will be replaced as other leaf material grows. As long as you have some leaf's your plant can do it's photosynthesis thang.

Pa-Nature is the king at doing this successfully.. he's on twitter & instagram..

 

[ROSTERMAN]

Just wondering
What have your temperatures been lights on and off

 

[bigsur51]

Leaf Stripping... I do it twice. Once right when they go into flowering to remove a few larger shade leaf's blocking
direct light to the interior of the plant. then again at week 6. removing them more often then that or constantly causes a stress factor that can cause some strains to react poorly. Many of them will be replaced as other leaf material grows. As long as you have some leaf's your plant can do it's photosynthesis thang.

Pa-Nature is the king at doing this successfully.. he's on twitter & instagram..

one of the things I remember from a lecture at college in my Plant Science class was on defoliation was this , A plant can lose up to 30% of its leaves and it will not affect the rate of photosynthesis.




fun charts to look at when stoned

 

[ROSTERMAN]

one of the things I remember from a lecture at college in my Plant Science class was on defoliation was this , A plant can lose up to 30% of its leaves and it will not affect the rate of photosynthesis.




fun charts to look at when stoned

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I fixed it so when you need to teach a noob again LOL

 

[jchern22]

Just wondering
What have your temperatures been lights on and off

67 Deg F 47% Humidity, lights 24/7. I'll be honest, I am cutting off leaves daily, its addicting. going to do a flush, stop cutting, and give her a nice dose of flowering bloom nutes and give the oscillating fans a break from directly on the plants. Thanks ya'll!

 

[ROSTERMAN]

67 Deg F 47% Humidity, lights 24/7. I'll be honest, I am cutting off leaves daily, its addicting. going to do a flush, stop cutting, and give her a nice dose of flowering bloom nutes and give the oscillating fans a break from directly on the plants. Thanks ya'll!

67 is low if that is with your lights on

 

[jchern22]

I threw my heater in there and turned up to 72. What temp is good during flowering. It's 67 with constant fan blowing under 200w led. I was shooting for 70 degrees and 40% RH but it's been 67 degrees and 47% last week. I started some new autos to use ip my seeds and stole the heater. Fan is blowing away from plants now and temp is 72. Other three plants appear to be happy. Gonna let her heal up and up the temp

 

[jchern22]

Looking better this morning. I've been very shy on the nutes and aggressive with defoilating so Going to up the nutes, and up the temp and limit direct wind and ride it out

 

[ROSTERMAN]

72 is better but I would keep heater outside a tent so you dont do the opposite and make it to hot

 

[jchern22]

Well I finally learned the difference between wilting and drooping and over watering and watering too often. When I began this first grow I was very cautious early on with nutes and water. But once those flowers started to bloom and the trichomes appeared, shit got real and I panicked and became aggresive with the nutes and daily watering which is most likely leading to root rot. I am airing them all out for a few days but after watching more youtube videos, heard a dude say marijuana plants prefer more dry days than wet days, made me think. So after observing more yellowing on their leaves and the drooping of the leaves, I am not watering for a few days so those roots can air out a little and they can start branching out again. Just need to leave them alone but pretty exciting when your first ever harvest is less than 30-45 days away and the plants are still ALIVE!
New Question. Should I hack off those sad looking fan leaves at the skirt of the plants or are those the "solar panels"?

 

[jchern22]

Making a minor comeback, first grow so the results on any of my buds will come in time. I am just thankful they have not died yet and its fun to learn the do's and dont's. So backed off from watering too often and not trimming so much and the droppy leaves on all 4 look better. Now the goal is to get them bone dry and then feed em.

 

[jchern22]

Looking a ittle better.

 

[jchern22]

I think she's gonna make it. Started to aerate the water and brewed an extreme gardening tea. Also spraying leaves with molasses- water- liquid seaweed mixture, seeing some good results on all 4 plants