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swiftgt said:
Good lad, puff puff bang lol, if you lucky it be one of them creepy stones that lets you finish your joint before firmly sitting you on your arse lol
white widow,Himalayan Gold ,Super Silver Haze ,first propper grow.
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Good lad, puff puff bang lol, if you lucky it be one of them creepy stones that lets you finish your joint before firmly sitting you on your arse lol
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Ah thats only 82.4F no worries man its not excessive.
Weather warmin up there? Tis here.
Weather warmin up there? Tis here.
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I'm managing to wrestle my temps but starting to get humidity issues, aaarrrrggggggghh! Even noticing droplets of water under cople of leaves everynow and then,, whats that all about? Noticed a few low leaves real dark and droopy like a bad over water, only couple but not good sign really.
Considering ripping couple out to let the rest breath proper, dunno but not too pleased
Considering ripping couple out to let the rest breath proper, dunno but not too pleased
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any pics?
you could remove any lower branchs but because your plants are'nt that high, you would be removing the plants ability to make energy to go into bud production,
maybe put a little plastic over the pots and around the stem to the water doesnt evap as much,cool the room abit more with fans, or you could extract air, or like i do use a de humidifyer! only 220w her hour and you can get them for cheap enough.
might be worth a look?
you could remove any lower branchs but because your plants are'nt that high, you would be removing the plants ability to make energy to go into bud production,
maybe put a little plastic over the pots and around the stem to the water doesnt evap as much,cool the room abit more with fans, or you could extract air, or like i do use a de humidifyer! only 220w her hour and you can get them for cheap enough.
might be worth a look?
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heres a crazy grow i found on the net,
For starters this should not be attempted with seedlings, a good mother plant that puts off consistent clones is what you need. All plants on the table should be from the same mother or VERY similar plants, mixing things up on the table could be a logistical nightmare with plants needing different nutrient levels and growing at different heights.
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107345&stc=1&d=1238614689
Clones are cut so that they are rooted when the previous cycle ends. The strain I use takes 14-21 days so I cut accordingly. When the clones are fully rooted in 1" rockwool cubes, by rooted I mean completely busting out of the cubes with roots and not just a couple tap roots sticking out the bottom, they are placed onto the ebb & flow table click here to see How do I prep my ebb & flow table? and put under the 12/12 regime. The lights are also moved to the top position and moved down 6-8" a day until desired height is reached. This helps them adjust to the light easier.
Once all the clones are on the table all side branches are cut, I do this again on day 6 and day 14 of 12/12. I try not to cut anything that looks like it will stay close to the plant, I also try to keep my trimming to the lower 6". By trimming the side branches all growth is sent to the cola, I have even done side by side comparisons and all the trimmed plants had much fatter single colas while the untrimmed plants were a nightmare to trim at harvest time and actually yielded less.
For the first 7 days under the HPS lights all plants are sprayed with Kelp foliar at one cap full per 1L. This is done to help keep the plants green otherwise they tend to yellow. Foliar sprays are done between lights on and 1 hour after, doing this any later may result in burning the leaves, doing it just before dark is not recommended as the plants don't get a chance to dry off and mold could become a problem.
GH used at 3-2-1 ratio for GROW, B1 is also added as per directions on bottle.
GH used at 1-2-3 ratio for BLOOM
-No GH 2-2-2 is used between GROW and BLOOM to try to eliminate as much of the stretch as possible.
All water is kept at a PH 5.7 (it does drift up to 6)
H202 (35%) is added at 10mL per L but only to fresh tap water, as it tends to react with nutrients.
For the first 7 days the plants are given a GH Grow diet, after that they switch to the Bloom juice. On day 14 of bloom I foliar spray the plants with Nitrozyme Growth Plus to help induce flowering. After that I pretty much sit back and watch them grow. I must recommend to anyone doing this to use a reservoir of at least 100L per 4'x4' area and get a good set of constant readout PH and EC meters. The smaller the reservoir the quicker the EC and PH will raise. I use a 300L res for a 4'x8' table and adjust it once every 2 days, takes me 5-10 min. For the last 14 days of the cycle I flush my plants with just water, any less than 5 days and the stuff will not burn properly. I find 9 to 14 days to really bring out the taste and make it much smoother. Above pictures are of clones after 6 days of 12/12
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107335&stc=1&d=1238614528
16 Days Old
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107336&stc=1&d=1238614641
20 Days Old
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107337&stc=1&d=1238614641
28 Days Old - Stretch finished.
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107339&stc=1&d=1238614664
32 Days
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107340&stc=1&d=1238614664
35 Days
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107341&stc=1&d=1238614664
45 Days
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107345&stc=1&d=1238614689
These are from a different cycle...
Day 49
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107342&stc=1&d=1238614689
Day 60
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107348&stc=1&d=1238614727
As you can see in these day 60 pictures, they finish quite small. That is a 1ft/30cm ruler used to give you a better perspective. Plants were flowered at roughly 6" tall and finished up on average 18", tallest is 23". Why so small? With a 6' ceiling, less 1.5 feet for reflector and spacing from plant, less another 1.5 feet because the table has to be higher than the reservoir to drain properly leaves me with 3 feet of grow space and supposedly a HID light only penetrates 3 feet down. This could also be incorporated nicely into a grow box with a small HID light. These ladies received 70 watts per square foot of air-cooled HPS lighting.
The following EC reading are just what I use for this particular strain, it seems to be quite strong for most of my others but it may help as a guide.
Days 1-7 - EC 1.50 GROW
Days 8-14 - EC 1.50 Bloom
Days 15-21 - EC 1.70 Bloom
Days 22-28 - EC 1.80 Bloom
Days 29-35 - EC 1.90 Bloom
Days 36-43 - EC 2.00 Bloom
Days 43-58 - EC 2.10 Bloom*
Days 59-66 - Flush
* I have let it drift as high as 2.35 but only for a couple feedings near the end.
When flushed the water is flood to drain. If it returns to the reservoir it will send the EC way up and thus needing many more water changes.
A sea of single cola's. Who needs to smoke the lower "B" quality buds? Everyone knows the cola is the best smoke.
For starters this should not be attempted with seedlings, a good mother plant that puts off consistent clones is what you need. All plants on the table should be from the same mother or VERY similar plants, mixing things up on the table could be a logistical nightmare with plants needing different nutrient levels and growing at different heights.
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107345&stc=1&d=1238614689
Clones are cut so that they are rooted when the previous cycle ends. The strain I use takes 14-21 days so I cut accordingly. When the clones are fully rooted in 1" rockwool cubes, by rooted I mean completely busting out of the cubes with roots and not just a couple tap roots sticking out the bottom, they are placed onto the ebb & flow table click here to see How do I prep my ebb & flow table? and put under the 12/12 regime. The lights are also moved to the top position and moved down 6-8" a day until desired height is reached. This helps them adjust to the light easier.
Once all the clones are on the table all side branches are cut, I do this again on day 6 and day 14 of 12/12. I try not to cut anything that looks like it will stay close to the plant, I also try to keep my trimming to the lower 6". By trimming the side branches all growth is sent to the cola, I have even done side by side comparisons and all the trimmed plants had much fatter single colas while the untrimmed plants were a nightmare to trim at harvest time and actually yielded less.
For the first 7 days under the HPS lights all plants are sprayed with Kelp foliar at one cap full per 1L. This is done to help keep the plants green otherwise they tend to yellow. Foliar sprays are done between lights on and 1 hour after, doing this any later may result in burning the leaves, doing it just before dark is not recommended as the plants don't get a chance to dry off and mold could become a problem.
GH used at 3-2-1 ratio for GROW, B1 is also added as per directions on bottle.
GH used at 1-2-3 ratio for BLOOM
-No GH 2-2-2 is used between GROW and BLOOM to try to eliminate as much of the stretch as possible.
All water is kept at a PH 5.7 (it does drift up to 6)
H202 (35%) is added at 10mL per L but only to fresh tap water, as it tends to react with nutrients.
For the first 7 days the plants are given a GH Grow diet, after that they switch to the Bloom juice. On day 14 of bloom I foliar spray the plants with Nitrozyme Growth Plus to help induce flowering. After that I pretty much sit back and watch them grow. I must recommend to anyone doing this to use a reservoir of at least 100L per 4'x4' area and get a good set of constant readout PH and EC meters. The smaller the reservoir the quicker the EC and PH will raise. I use a 300L res for a 4'x8' table and adjust it once every 2 days, takes me 5-10 min. For the last 14 days of the cycle I flush my plants with just water, any less than 5 days and the stuff will not burn properly. I find 9 to 14 days to really bring out the taste and make it much smoother. Above pictures are of clones after 6 days of 12/12
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107335&stc=1&d=1238614528
16 Days Old
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107336&stc=1&d=1238614641
20 Days Old
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107337&stc=1&d=1238614641
28 Days Old - Stretch finished.
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107339&stc=1&d=1238614664
32 Days
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107340&stc=1&d=1238614664
35 Days
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107341&stc=1&d=1238614664
45 Days
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107345&stc=1&d=1238614689
These are from a different cycle...
Day 49
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107342&stc=1&d=1238614689
Day 60
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107348&stc=1&d=1238614727
As you can see in these day 60 pictures, they finish quite small. That is a 1ft/30cm ruler used to give you a better perspective. Plants were flowered at roughly 6" tall and finished up on average 18", tallest is 23". Why so small? With a 6' ceiling, less 1.5 feet for reflector and spacing from plant, less another 1.5 feet because the table has to be higher than the reservoir to drain properly leaves me with 3 feet of grow space and supposedly a HID light only penetrates 3 feet down. This could also be incorporated nicely into a grow box with a small HID light. These ladies received 70 watts per square foot of air-cooled HPS lighting.
The following EC reading are just what I use for this particular strain, it seems to be quite strong for most of my others but it may help as a guide.
Days 1-7 - EC 1.50 GROW
Days 8-14 - EC 1.50 Bloom
Days 15-21 - EC 1.70 Bloom
Days 22-28 - EC 1.80 Bloom
Days 29-35 - EC 1.90 Bloom
Days 36-43 - EC 2.00 Bloom
Days 43-58 - EC 2.10 Bloom*
Days 59-66 - Flush
* I have let it drift as high as 2.35 but only for a couple feedings near the end.
When flushed the water is flood to drain. If it returns to the reservoir it will send the EC way up and thus needing many more water changes.
A sea of single cola's. Who needs to smoke the lower "B" quality buds? Everyone knows the cola is the best smoke.
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Might be cheap but got no cash lol.
As is the way what i got is spoken for at mo lol
As is the way what i got is spoken for at mo lol
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Was thinking about removing some of the smaller crap from bottom but what about stress? wouldn't wanna screw up now
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looking great:hubba: your doing an awesome job with them ladies they look very happy gonna give up some sweet ganja
gonna give up some sweet ganja
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thanks pothead!
yea there doing well enough lately,
my big bud is yellowing up now,but still not alot of amber trichs!
my seedlings are doing well enough, my ak48's are about the best of them,
and the bc northen light special are useless! not 1 out of 8 have germed yet,
rubbish! all the others did well so i guess this is one to avoid!
i transplanted one of my bigbud clones into soil ,that i want to make into a mother,
and the two other plants i have flowering are also looking like they might even have some smoke on them!
there ment to be white widow but i really doubt it now,
they look like a mainly sativa strain,
and are a real pain in the bum to control there growth!
yea there doing well enough lately,
my big bud is yellowing up now,but still not alot of amber trichs!
my seedlings are doing well enough, my ak48's are about the best of them,
and the bc northen light special are useless! not 1 out of 8 have germed yet,
rubbish! all the others did well so i guess this is one to avoid!
i transplanted one of my bigbud clones into soil ,that i want to make into a mother,
and the two other plants i have flowering are also looking like they might even have some smoke on them!
there ment to be white widow but i really doubt it now,
they look like a mainly sativa strain,
and are a real pain in the bum to control there growth!
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ok so i ran outa smoke today yea not cool!
so i trimmed some lower branchs on all of my flowering plants,
ok abit late to be pruning the big bud as it's only got a week or so left!
but the buds where fairly small and would never ammount to anything,
so i hung the branch of my bigbud and dryed the other two plants,
which where supposed to be white widow but im really doubt that as i got the seeds from a bad seed comp (cannabisseeds.com)
avoid them!:hitchair:
anyway
so i put the "white widow" into the bong,
whats that... its a preview
SMOKE TEST!
i was not expecting much from this as im not sure what strain it is!
so as i fired it up it seemed to take awhile, no doubt from moisture that remained inside the buds.
i was slightly afrade to take a full creamy hit straght off, as i have toked my share of evil death smoke!:shocked:
anyway,
i was plesently surprised to find that the smoke was very smooth,
even though it has not finished the flush,
it tasted like kerosene, not in a bad way though,
i was surprised by the high,heavy stone,
real heavy im not sure whats going on it looks like a staiva!
i nearly droped my bong!
so tumbs up!
looks like that smoke might be worth it after all!
:woohoo:
yea not cool!so i trimmed some lower branchs on all of my flowering plants,
ok abit late to be pruning the big bud as it's only got a week or so left!
but the buds where fairly small and would never ammount to anything,
so i hung the branch of my bigbud and dryed the other two plants,
which where supposed to be white widow but im really doubt that as i got the seeds from a bad seed comp (cannabisseeds.com)
avoid them!:hitchair:
anyway
so i put the "white widow" into the bong,
whats that... its a preview
SMOKE TEST!
i was not expecting much from this as im not sure what strain it is!
so as i fired it up it seemed to take awhile, no doubt from moisture that remained inside the buds.
i was slightly afrade to take a full creamy hit straght off, as i have toked my share of evil death smoke!:shocked:
anyway,
i was plesently surprised to find that the smoke was very smooth,
even though it has not finished the flush,
it tasted like kerosene, not in a bad way though,
i was surprised by the high,heavy stone,
real heavy im not sure whats going on it looks like a staiva!
i nearly droped my bong!
so tumbs up!
looks like that smoke might be worth it after all!
:woohoo:
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i saw this post and thought thedon would like to see this.
Nitrate - Ammonium is found in both inorganic and organic forms in the plant, and combines with carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and sometimes sulfur to form amino acids, amino enzymes, nucleic acids, chlorophyll, alkaloids, and purine bases. Nitrogen rates high as molecular weight proteins in plant tissue.
Plants need lots of N during vegging, but it's easy to overdo it. Added too much? Flush the soil with plain water. Soluble nitrogen (especially nitrate) is the form that's the most quickly available to the roots, while insoluble N (like urea) first needs to be broken down by microbes in the soil before the roots can absorb it. Avoid excessive ammonium nitrogen, which can interfere with other nutrients.
Too much N delays flowering. Plants should be allowed to become N-deficient late in flowering for best flavor.
Nitrogen Deficiencies
Plants will exhibit lack of vigor, slow growth and will be weak and stunted. Quality and yield will be significantly reduced. Older leaves become yellow (chlorotic) from lack of chlorophyll. Deficient plants will exhibit uniform light green to yellow on older leaves, these leaves may die and drop. Leaf margins will not curled up noticeably. Chlorosis will eventually spread throughout the plant. Stems, petioles and lower leaf surfaces may turn purple.
As seen in figure 10 consumption of nitrogen (N) from the fan leaves during the final phase of flowing is 100% normal.http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107762&stc=1&d=1238850856
Nitrate - Ammonium is found in both inorganic and organic forms in the plant, and combines with carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and sometimes sulfur to form amino acids, amino enzymes, nucleic acids, chlorophyll, alkaloids, and purine bases. Nitrogen rates high as molecular weight proteins in plant tissue.
Plants need lots of N during vegging, but it's easy to overdo it. Added too much? Flush the soil with plain water. Soluble nitrogen (especially nitrate) is the form that's the most quickly available to the roots, while insoluble N (like urea) first needs to be broken down by microbes in the soil before the roots can absorb it. Avoid excessive ammonium nitrogen, which can interfere with other nutrients.
Too much N delays flowering. Plants should be allowed to become N-deficient late in flowering for best flavor.
Nitrogen Deficiencies
Plants will exhibit lack of vigor, slow growth and will be weak and stunted. Quality and yield will be significantly reduced. Older leaves become yellow (chlorotic) from lack of chlorophyll. Deficient plants will exhibit uniform light green to yellow on older leaves, these leaves may die and drop. Leaf margins will not curled up noticeably. Chlorosis will eventually spread throughout the plant. Stems, petioles and lower leaf surfaces may turn purple.
As seen in figure 10 consumption of nitrogen (N) from the fan leaves during the final phase of flowing is 100% normal.http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107762&stc=1&d=1238850856
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yeah thanks alot swift.
ive got pH issues..
gotta wait till monday to grab
ph down... so well see what happens.
thanks bro
ive got pH issues..
gotta wait till monday to grab
ph down... so well see what happens.
thanks bro
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oh and i found the artical that i saw before with the reason why you should cover your bubbler/nute tank, heres what it says,
Minimize light leaks and cover reservoir (but don't seal) to limit algae growth. Algae will grow, reproduce and die, adding organic material for pythium to feed on. Algae and other slimes may coat the roots, stressing plants even further.
Minimize light leaks and cover reservoir (but don't seal) to limit algae growth. Algae will grow, reproduce and die, adding organic material for pythium to feed on. Algae and other slimes may coat the roots, stressing plants even further.
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IMO thats the biggest problem with growing Hydro. trying to keep the water in the system cool. warm water, algae can cause pythium and root rot it can reek havoc in the system. if you run a DWC, Ebb & Flow, Flood & Drain, or Water Farms it will spread thru the sytem and all your plants will get it.swiftgt said:
thats the reason i use soil now allot slower growth but i wont have to worry about all those problems. and thats why when i use the Water Farms i do not use the rez i use each bucket as single setups instead of connecting them all to the rez.
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sorry about the interuption but are you an ice road trucker !!84VW said:ok, i figured with that name
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bring home the buds peps nice thread lads/laddettes
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swiftgt said:ok so i ran outa smoke today
so i trimmed some lower branchs on all of my flowering plants,
ok abit late to be pruning the big bud as it's only got a week or so left!
but the buds where fairly small and would never ammount to anything,
so i hung the branch of my bigbud and dryed the other two plants,
which where supposed to be white widow but im really doubt that as i got the seeds from a bad seed comp (cannabisseeds.com)
avoid them!:hitchair:
anyway
so i put the "white widow" into the bong,
whats that... its a preview
SMOKE TEST!
i was not expecting much from this as im not sure what strain it is!
so as i fired it up it seemed to take awhile, no doubt from moisture that remained inside the buds.
i was slightly afrade to take a full creamy hit straght off, as i have toked my share of evil death smoke!:shocked:
anyway,
i was plesently surprised to find that the smoke was very smooth,
even though it has not finished the flush,
it tasted like kerosene, not in a bad way though,
i was surprised by the high,heavy stone,
real heavy im not sure whats going on it looks like a staiva!
i nearly droped my bong!
so tumbs up!
looks like that smoke might be worth it after all!
:woohoo:
Glad to hear the smoke surpassed your expectations!!!
