Sopappy's grow

[Kraven]

I don't see alternating nodes yet, do you see any preflowers, has it sexed yet?

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

I left them as I figured they weren't blocking anything but now that you mention it, they can go.

Take note, the fan leaves act as "solar panels" for the nodes adjacent. So, those fan leaves would only do so much for your more important nodes.

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[sopappy]

I don't see alternating nodes yet, do you see any preflowers, has it sexed yet?

I topped them. Do you mean alternating nodes on the "cola" branches? They're feminized so I haven't been paying close attention but the hairs on the back of my neck stand up when there's males around. I better have another look.

update: I'm surprised you guys still check in, I'm sinking to new lows... I thought they were fem'd, or maybe the pythium got to them but it looks like 3 of the 4 are males, I could spit. Most expensive hydro in North America, wish I could use the F word.

 

[sopappy]

Take note, the fan leaves act as "solar panels" for the nodes adjacent. So, those fan leaves would only do so much for your more important nodes.

:aok:

Note taken...In some of my reading, I discovered a fellow who trims ALL the fans except the ones feeding cola branches. I also read that they don't see green (green light ok sleeping) so, to them, the leaves are actually transparent so they aren't really blocking any light.

 

[sopappy]

Gidday all, I'm growing stuff in here again. Pythium scared me off my RDWC so I'm back in soil, nothin special and got some healthy seed from quebecseeds. Weehoo, look at me, I'm a growier. Do I push my luck and drop those seedlings in the buckets?

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[mindtrip]

Glad to see you're at it again sopappy! Sorry about the male problem you had.

 

[Grower13]

green mojo sopappy

 

[Kraven]

Green mojo pappy, glad your back.

 

[sopappy]

Glad to see you're at it again sopappy! Sorry about the male problem you had.

nope, I had all fem'd... I just couldn't germinbate or keep anything growing! I hadn't cleaned my coco coir good enough and I also had an unbelievable run of bad luck with seeds, **** from 3 local places and a nightmare with Ironseeds in Toronto. although they tried to make good
I am thrilled with Quebecseeds so far, so good, clever shipping and 4/5 and 5/6 in flower

update: I ordered more seeds and they went astray..... NO PROBLEM, he sent me the order again... NO CHARGE!

 

[sopappy]

green mojo sopappy

yep, needs lots of that, thank you

 

[sopappy]

Green mojo pappy, glad your back.

Hey Kraven! No buckets goin' on hahaha, I think I just tried too much, too fast. I have plants growing in year-old dirt, seedlings in potting soil and the plugs, not really giving a damn and stuff is growing hahaha, I'm surprised you guys let me play here.

 

[sopappy]

Not even sure what I've got going on in the veg room these days, one disaster after another but somehow, some survive. I have 4 in flower that were pythium plagued in the buckets but recovered, sort of. Sleeping now, pics later. They are flowering but trichromes are scarce.<br/>

Some uglies in veg are survivors too, I added some potting soil and put them in bigger pots (for shits and giggles). I'm surprised they lived so I experiment. I had a couple I practiced removing soil from roots. Too stressful, the rapidrooters and pellets worked superbly, the roots looked just like the package har har. <br/>

The transplant from 4" pellets to buckets was easy and they were dipped in benes (sic?) and are top watered for now, no roots in nutes yet. Doing a half-bummed ebb and flow with 2 remaining in 4" pellets. Roots are poking out the bottom and if the two in buckets succumb to pythium, I have back-ups. <br/>

The 4" under the T5 are all in potting soil, no rooters and everything is coming up. I think the trick is to treat them the way we used to treat kids. Have plenty more of them so if you lose some it's not the end of the world eh?<br/>

I think the yellowing is over-watering and that crummy soil.

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[Kraven]

Just keep plugging along pappy, what you got don't look so bad. Sometimes it just takes a bit of practice to find ourselves, but once you get your groove you will be on fire, your gaining tons of knowledge along the way. Keep up the good work.

 

[sopappy]

These are 4 of 5 seeds planted in rapid rooters. They were started in 4&quot; pots filled with hydroton. I took the two largest seedlings and transplanted them in to the buckets. They have both recently dropped roots and pH creeping up 5.5 to 5.8 over 3 days, but ppm still steady at 300 <br/>
The &quot;smaller&quot; 2 seedlings were plopped in to a tray and I goofed and nuted high, 5.5 pH but 1150 ppm. I've been emptying the tray morning and night and refilling with fresh (but still too high) nutes. Look at them. 5.7 pH and 1000 ppm. They each have maybe a 1-2&quot; inch root squashed under the pot.<br/>
Why aren't the buckets' ones eating like the 2 in the tray? Should I drain and re-fill with 1200 ppm?

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[Dr. Green Fang]

They have both recently dropped roots and pH creeping up 5.5 to 5.8 over 3 days, but ppm still steady at 300

Perfect. Keep the water topped off to the top level at all times. Every day top your water off! They are just drinking right now, and that's great You're on your way to hydro goodness!! :aok:

Why aren't the buckets' ones eating? Should I drain and re-fill with 1200 ppm?

They are small still ya? They are just sipping water. When they start eating, YOU'LL KNOW IT. Make sure you can always gauge what your "topped off" level is. I've learned that this hydro thing has a LOT to do with topping off with fresh water every single day.

Also .. side note.. have I mentioned I hate soil? LOL!!

 

[sopappy]

Perfect. Keep the water topped off to the top level at all times. Every day top your water off! They are just drinking right now, and that's great You're on your way to hydro goodness!! :aok:



They are small still ya? They are just sipping water. When they start eating, YOU'LL KNOW IT. Make sure you can always gauge what your &quot;topped off&quot; level is. I've learned that this hydro thing has a LOT to do with topping off with fresh water every single day.

Also .. side note.. have I mentioned I hate soil? LOL!!

Weehoo, thanks, Fang! I thought things were looking good but good to hear!! I am still confused about the growth. Look at the 2 in the tray, they were the smaller of the 4. I put the 2 bigger plants in the buckets. Same strain, they all came up same day. I'm thinking I shocked the 2 with the transplant (which struck me as far less stressful than a dirt transplant) I also have 1000ppm and am changing the nute solution every 12 hours,
seems wrong but look at the plants, weird.
But I will stick to 5.5 plain water top-ups for the rez, water level is at bottom of net pot but I'll lower it next change and can I give them 1200 ppm ?
Oh no! so sorry to see the mite problems, hope all recovers okay!

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

But I will stick to 5.5 plain water top-ups for the rez, water level is at bottom of net pot but I'll lower it next change and can I give them 1200 ppm ?

Firstly.. let's get some things on track. I don't go lower than 5.7.. 5.6 I may "let it slide" if it's just after a fresh reset, but overall I do not like to go below 5.7. And my high number is 6.3 highest! You want your add back water to be between 6.1-6.3, this will give you the proper ramp over time. If you don't do certain things in certain orders and numbers, your rez will start dropping massively in PH and you'll be fighting a floating battle. Personally, I have an ATO (Automatic Top Off) system in place in all my res's so that every 6 hours that the system isn't running, a pump will run for 15 minutes pumping 6.2ph'd water from my Brute Trash can (food safe) into my 55 gal res, with the level set to 40 gal with a Water Float Valve. So, every 12 hours my system will flood my setup, and then pump back in after 15 minutes. Every 12 hours alternating with 6 hour offsets, my ATO will turn off and bring the res back up. My PPM's slowly go down over time (fast if they eat a lot) and my ph will slowly rise from 5.7 up to around 6.1(3) over about a weeks time. It's the ramp you're looking for. So for you, just make sure you go in your room after every feeding and automatically top your water off to a set point of reset value. I have to do this manually everyday with my Tent 3 that has one 18 gal DWC setup going in it. It's a pain, but it creates a happy system. Also, my fill line is static. I'm at 10" exactly. When the roots really take over, I will keep my top off line to 10" but since there's so much more root system, it will take less water anyways. No need to make your plant try too hard. Let it hit the water and then THRIVE. At least this is my opinion. So, get a measure tape in your res and keep a note how many gallons your TOP level is, in inches. That's where you want it to be everyday. Watch your PPM's and PH and then add back solution accordingly.. usually once a week you'll get your res back up to 1200 ppm's or whatever you happen to be at. If you're vegging I personally don't go over 800 - 1000 ppm's.

Hope I answered everything. Please keep me in the loop.. it seems you've got a great start going here.

Random thought. When they are small in rapid rooters / rockwool (can't remember .. I think rooters you use?) you get a good bunch of roots on the outsize of the rooter before you transplant into the hydroton with dwc bin, yes? Also, for the first 3-5 days you DO top feed yes??

 

[sopappy]

Good lord, drugs, ignore all that up there, Fang, I know you're busy.<br/>
you were asking about rapid rooters... I'm sold. The mistake I made was thinking I could pull off a "Kraven" but THG set me straight.... suggested I let them mature a bit more.<br/>
Here's a transplant from 4inch to the bucket.

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[Dr. Green Fang]

The mistake I made was thinking I could pull off a "Kraven" but THG set me straight.... suggested I let them mature a bit more.

First of all YES! Don't pull a Kraven (though he did/does phenomenal)... let those roots build up a bit before transplanting into such a big DWC system, and yes... top feed for the first couple days either way, even with a system like that. That's a NICE root system and I'm super happy for you!!!!

As for your last thing.. I went to reply at night while I was almost sleeping, and I just couldn't figure out your reply methods... especially when you're dropping sentences in the middle of my paragraphs. lol

No worries!

Good damn job mate! You're on the way now, eh?

 

[sopappy]

First of all YES! Don't pull a Kraven (though he did/does phenomenal)... let those roots build up a bit before transplanting into such a big DWC system, and yes... top feed for the first couple days either way, even with a system like that. That's a NICE root system and I'm super happy for you!!!!

As for your last thing.. I went to reply at night while I was almost sleeping, and I just couldn't figure out your reply methods... especially when you're dropping sentences in the middle of my paragraphs. lol

No worries!

Good damn job mate! You're on the way now, eh?

hahaha, I looked at the post later myself and laughed out loud. I should have spared you that
by a &quot;Kraven&quot;, I meant a &quot;miracle&quot;, that man is possessed
I checked grows last night and I always check his LAST because I end up logging off and surfing porn
That has got to be one of the prettiest logs I've seen to date
When I pulled (gently) that ball out of the 4 inch pot, I actually shrieked like a little girl. I see some brown hue in the picture but I think that's the camera, They are beautiful and I noticed a &quot;carrot&quot; smell (that struck me as gud)