Magnetism and plants

[DrFever]

The reason behind using magnets is that water , fertilizers are actually molecules when placing molecules thru a magnetic field amazing things happen. Like molecular movement.
Molecules will be moving faster actually vibrating in suspension,
could a plant actually grow better picking and choosing nutrients that rather stay in soil via magnetic , will soils last longer as for nutrients leaching away we all sit here thinking lights nutrients air movement is all you need for good plant growth , when we all get into more depth of how mother nature works , scientifically speaking i think our plants and yields will increase tri fold

The Earth in itself is a magnet. The dynamo theory relates magnetism and earth. It states that kinetic energy is converted to magnetic energy through electrically conducting fluid. Earth possesses this electrically conducting fluid at its core, which is the reason for earth's magnetism. A magnetic dipole is formed on the earth, one known as the North pole and the other as the South pole. An hypothetical line joining these poles is called the earth's axis of rotation. This magnetic property of Earth is referred to as geomagnetism.

Things aren't always what they seem to be.
Water is a fluid, and it's wet. That's how we experience it, from a human point of view. But when looking closely, we can see now that water is made of pretty solid atoms, and these atoms aren't wet. We usually don't know about the details, we only experience the group effect, how zillions of details act together.
We see hot and cold as opposites, but there is no cold really. If something has a temperature, it's always a positive value. And deeper; we call the average effect of many vibrating atoms "temperature". Temperature is not a primary basic element, it's yet another "illusion".
Light is invisible. It's the collision of light on your nerves that you can sense. The world we live in is, from a detail point of view, founded on illusions, seeing group effects and almost blind to the details that really make our world.

So, how about gravity? Very large amounts of atoms together, like the Earth, have a gravitational field, a relative weak force, that attracts the mass of other atoms. But what is really going on?

Complex things are a collection, made of a larger number of less complex things. Gravity as we know it, is probably a complex thing, no primary basic element. To learn more about gravity, we have to forget what we know from daily life, and zoom in on the situation. Force might be a primary basic element, but there's probably no "magnetic force" and "gravity force". When a yellow car hits a wall, there is force, but not "yellow car force".


Energy level
A tree letting go of an apple; the apple accelerates to the Earth.
To accelerate an apple in space with a rocket costs energy. Does the Earth's gravitational field generate energy out of nothing? I don't think so. I think an apple closer to the ground contains less energy than an apple in a tree. The amount of energy that can come from dropping it is equal to the loss of energy. Similar to atoms coming together in a chemical reaction, making molecules and releasing energy.


Straight through mass
The force fields of gravity and magnetism can go straight through us, with only a little effect. Makes me wonder what more can go straight through us. Are there things that can go through us without any effect? If there are, it is impossible to sense them. Smart people concluded that atoms in our body are mostly "empty" space, leaving lots of room for stuff to travel through us, with no or hardly any interaction.


What can be observed: Gravity
- Mass has or causes a gravitational field in and around the space it's in.
- It costs no energy to maintain the force field.
- Gravity is a weak force, relative to other forces. It takes the mass of the whole earth to produce 1G on a small stone, while a simple string can carry that stone. The forces that keep molecules together are so much stronger than gravity.
- A planet has no gravity poles (like magnets have a north and south pole)
- The stronger the force of gravity in an area, the slower speed of time goes there.
- The gravitational field penetrates every known material. There is no known way to shield gravity. Although some have claimed a reduction of between 0.5 to 2% in weight, above fast rotating superconductors.
- Gravity can bend the path of light.
- A gravitational field reaches very far. No limit of distance is known.


What can be observed: Magnetism
- A permanent magnet uses no energy to maintain its force field.
- A flow of electrons creats a magnet field.
- A magnet has poles (north & south). A magnetic monopole is not know yet.
- An electro magnet uses energy to maintain its force field, unless it's a superconducting one (?).
- When shutting of the power to an electro magnet, the force field collapses, which produces an electric current while collapsing.
- Even atoms have tiny magnetic fields.
- A permanent magnet can be made by aligning the spin of hot atoms, in a magnet field, and then freezing their positions, by cooling.
- Not all atoms are attracted a magnetic force field.
Part of the energetic system of an atom, are one or more electrons. Electrons can be on their own also. A stream of electrons we call an electric current. When an electric current flows, it creates a magnetic field. This is easy to prove with a compass (that contains a permanent magnet)
As long as the current flows, there is a magnetic field. Less people know that it costs energy to create a magnetic field, and that when turning of the power, the field collapses and produces power.


Superconducting
Through superconducting materials, electrons can flow without resistance. Superconducting material has no interior magnetic field; the Meissner effect is the expulsion of a magnetic field from a superconductor during its transition to the superconducting state. No magnetic field inside.
we couldn;t so what does magnetics really do well with out magnetics Birds and other species wouldn;t know where to go as well as Airplanes GPS the list goes on right the poles help reflect radiation away from us or we would all be dead magnetism is allot more indepth then what some people might think

Why is it no matter how to plant a seed the roots will always GO DOWN why is that ??? could it be magnetism in the earths core ?????
you got to realize as well no matter what they will still grow

 

[4u2sm0ke]

:stoned:

what?

:rofl:

 

[snowdancer]

:yeahthat:

 

[Hushpuppy]

I want to smoke some of what he's smoking!!:ccc: :hubba:

 

[4u2sm0ke]

Im a think his Magnets are off

 

[BackWoodsDrifter]

Yual shouldnt be playin with magnets pilgrem cause think that steel plate in yur head just become loose and pullin on brain yual should be leavin lone.

BWD

 

[DrFever]

Nowadays, many written scientific works of biologists and biophysics describe the effect of magnetic fields on plants. Based on these works, "Magnetic Technologies" company came up with a method of magneto-hydro dynamical activization of natural waters and devices used for this method. This method is an essential part in the whole complex of using magnetic fields in agriculture. It includes physical- chemical changes of natural water parameters, resulting in improvement of filtration properties and in an increase of dissolving properties of water. These changes result in an increased ability of soil to get rid of salts and results in a better assimilation of nutrients and fertilizer in plants during the vegetation period.

It is known that plants and trees need mineral salts and microelements from the soil to function and photosynthesize properly. However, plants do not use the majority of nutrients that are in soil. While watering plants with normal water, only a small amount of nutritional elements dissolves in the soil and becomes available to the plants. Further consumption of these nutrients from the soil is very rare when plants start to grow and a larger amount of nutrients is required, the deficit of microelements results in low numbers of crop. The deficit of microelements/nutrients in the soil is the main reason for a decreased growth rate and low crop. That is the reason to why magnetic water should be used for irrigation.

In addition, when the plant is watered using hard and non- magnetized water, white coating is formed on the surface of the soil: that is calcium bicarbonate and carbonate. Some of calcium bicarbonate is washed away by water penetrating soil and depositing on the roots of plants. The plant, then, starts to suffocate because of these depositions and in order to continue to feed, forms additional roots. This process results in a decrease of normal growth in plants.

However, plants that are irrigated using water that is treated by "Magnetic Technologies" company, easily take in mineral salts from the soil and no sediment is formed on the soil surface. Also if mineral and organic fertilizers are used, they dissolve better which results in their need for use the decrease by 50% and at the same time, plants still continue to develop without any extra effort. This results in an increased crop production and in an increased quality of agricultural products.

In short, the economic advantage of using magnetic water for irrigating the crops looks like this:

Advantages

Vegetation period decreases by 15-20 days, therefore the crops ripe 15-20 days earlier than normally.
Crop production increases from 15-20% to 100%, and in some cases, even more.
Plant disease rates drastically decrease.
Taste of agricultural products improves.
Approximately 30% less water is used for irrigation
Therefore 30% less energy is used in water pipes.
Sea water (salty water) can be used for watering (from 6-8 thousand PPM inclusive) and for some cultures, very salty water can be used (from 15 thousand inclusive).
By magnetizing seeds before sowing and by irrigating them with magnetic water, the need for crop material decreases by min. 30%.
Average of 30% decrease in fertilizer consumption.
Active soil desalination takes place, increasing crop production year after year.
Expenses

Expenses that occur during the installment of magnetic systems for 1 hectare of land come up to approximately 500$US. In addition, our magnetic devices do not need technical maintenance and do not require electrical energy. Life of our devices is min. 15 years. If we divide 500$US by 15 years, our expenses will be 33 $US/year. Compare advantages with expenses and draw your own conclusions!

Below, we included reports of various organizations, which use our technology and our devices. These experiments were carried out in different parts of the world, in different climates and on different soil; that gives us the right to say that using magnetic technologies has no limits and limitations when it comes to various conditions and situations.
As we see, the mentioned above results show that using magnetic water can only be an advantage.

Conditions of experiments

All of the experiments were carried out using the same method. That is a land area was chosen and divided into two equal parts. One part was used as a control and was watered using normal water. The second half had magnetic devices installed. After that, same kinds of seeds were planted in both areas at the same time.
The following changes were recorded:

In plants
Speed of crops' standing.
Percentage of crops standing.
Development of root system.
Difference in green mass.
Development of first flowers.
Development of first fruits.
Quantity of fruits.
Time of collecting the harvest.
Difference in quantity and quality of harvest.
In soil
Amount of salts at different depth of the soil (0-1.5m) before the irrigation process.
Amount of salt in soil while watering with normal and magnetic waters.
Density of water that has flown through the soil.
Speed of filtration in the beginning and at the end.
Washing away of salts while irrigating soil with water.
Washing out of various anions from the soil.

 

[4u2sm0ke]

I like to KISS

Keep simple

 

[DrFever]

I like to KISS

Keep simple

i agree keep it simple but were all here trying to achieve better results its like why keep moving water up hill when nature easily moves it down hill
i am fascinated over this idea many growers use wetting agents
and what exactly is a wetting agent
Wetting agents are chemical substances that increase the spreading and penetrating properties of a liquid by lowering its surface tension - that is, the tendency of its molecules to adhere to each other at the surface. The surface tension of a liquid is the tendency of the molecules to bond together, and is determined by the strength of the bonds or attraction between the liquid molecules. A wetting agent stretches theses bonds and decreases the tendency of molecules to bond together, which allows the liquid to spread more easily across any solid surface. Wetting agents can be made up of a variety of chemicals, all of which have this tension-lowering effect. Wetting agent is also known as surfactant.

And what magnetized water actually does is reduce tension making it more bio available to a plant its a win win really

It is really simple really purchase some magnets and tape them to a pail in there right positions fill up the pail of water and stir it constantly with a blender etc some people even tape magnets to there water inlets of there house thus water passing thru the magnetic field becomes magnetized

I have grown 4 plants this route and i believe i noticed differences , as in shorter plants more bushy and most importantly faster flowering times of approx 2 weeks
I would really like a couple of you just to try feeding plants with magnetized water just one plant in your grow its really not that expensive to do and not really hard either :hubba:

 

[Hushpuppy]

I am up for an experiment of this type. I have seen the magnetic water filtering systems advertised as doing the same things that you were talking about. They say it will eliminate scale and hard water build up within the plumbing system.

I am running all hydro at the moment but I have 3 tents with 3 separate watering systems. At my next harvest and reset, I will try this and keep a running pic record. Its certainly worth the experiment to learn something if nothing else

 

[4u2sm0ke]

Thanks for sharing

:48:

 

[ShOrTbUs]

i'm going to give it a try as well

 

[DrFever]

I am up for an experiment of this type. I have seen the magnetic water filtering systems advertised as doing the same things that you were talking about. They say it will eliminate scale and hard water build up within the plumbing system.

I am running all hydro at the moment but I have 3 tents with 3 separate watering systems. At my next harvest and reset, I will try this and keep a running pic record. Its certainly worth the experiment to learn something if nothing else

That is awesome hush puppy i am 100 percent positive you will see huge differences in growth and yields here is a idea for you not sure on amount of water you use in your system but get a bucket.
Place magnets in there proper position around bucket taped so fields are going at each other.
have some kind of mixer so you can keep water moving which in turn will magnetize and become less tension in it can only be a plus you can also tape a few magnets around your actual grow tubs.

Here are a few pics of plants that i placed magnets into not a great way but again was first try until i figured actual magnetized water instead of magnets in soil lol but anyways from a 3" clone in non direct light so plants were in shaded areas 1 week veg and this is what they looked like in flower i was shocked at how well they did can only imagine plants under direct light would of done forgot to mention plants were untouched just left to grow

 

[Hushpuppy]

Ok so my system right now has 3 tanks that are tied together and total aout 100liters of water/solution. I have 2 pumps in them, one is the pump that lifts water to the dispersion head which sends water to the plants via 14" hoses, the other pump is connected from one tank to the other so that the water circulates from one tank to the next in a circuit of all the tanks in order to keep the solution and temps stirred together.

Now whenever I change out my water, I use 5gal buckets to refill the system. Should I only have magnets around the bucket and stir it for a period of time before adding to my resevoirs or is it something where the water needs to constantly be circulated through the magnetic fields?

Also, how many magnets should I have? You say they should be lined up with the fields going at each other? you mean they should be in a line with the north facing north of the next magnet and the south end facing the south end of the next magnet in line(NNSSNNSS)? or should they form a ring so that they line up NSNSNS all the way around. I would consider this to be "in series" with each other. Or should they all be parallel so that all of the norths face toward the top of the bucket while the all the souths face the bottom of the bucket?

This should prove interesting as I have 2 tents that are virtually identical in every way, including the strain, so I should be able to get a real time side-by-side comparrison.

 

[homediggie]

Magnets? I have a ton of magnets that came out of appliance's i used to work on. Will these work and where do i put them, and not up my butt.

 

[DrFever]

I found this hope it gives you some ideas

Preparing magnetized water is easy. Simply fill a glass container with water and place it on flat magnets laid side by side in a checkerboard pattern, as shown. The magnets will naturally attract and form a stand. By placing a container of water on this stand, you will obtain water that has both north and south magnetization within a period of twelve to twenty-four hours.

The magnets should be placed on a paramagnetic surface, such as wood. They should not be placed near metal objects (such as a toaster or refrigerator) in order to avoid accidental demagnetization.

Magnetized water retains its charge for a period of two to three days, as long as it is kept away from metal objects that could potentially demagnetize it.

Ideally, magnetized water should be stored at room temperature, because it facilitates digestion. However, you can keep the water in the refrigerator if the shelves are made of glass and not of metal, and as long as you place the container in the center of the refrigerator, away from the metallic walls and any other metallic objects, tin cans, jars, lids, etc.

What does Magnetized Water do?

The beneficial effects of magnetized water are indisputable. Research has proven that magnetized water can improve the digestive system, regenerate tissue, facilitate the elimination of wastes and toxins, reduce the severity of menstrual problems, strengthen the immune system, and reduce cholesterol.

Since magnetized water increases mineral solubility, it improves the distribution of nutrients throughout the body, so that overall body functioning is enhanced.

For many years, practitioners in countries like India, Japan, and Russia, have used magnetized water to successfully treat illness, re-establish metabolic balance, and improve the general vitality of otherwise healthy people.

Healthy Tissues

Magnetized water has special properties which are transferred to the organs of the body after its absorption. Magnetized water not only eliminates digestive problems and acts as a preventive; it also helps to regenerate tissue.

Eliminates Toxins

By maintaining a healthy digestive system, magnetized water improves the body’s ability to eliminate toxins. Many people have also noticed that it cures constipation in a non-aggressive manner, with no side effects.

Strengthens the Immune System

Magnetized water strengthens the immune system and has proven useful in the treatment of viral infections such as colds, flu, and coughs, as well as conditions like asthma and many other illnesses. Drinking magnetized water on a regular basis has also been shown to generally help the healing process.

Reduces Cholesterol

The regular consumption of magnetized water has been shown to normalize cholesterol levels. It also prevents the build-up of cholesterol in the arteries and hardening of the arteries—which can lead to high blood pressure—and helps to maintain and regulate heart function.

Now this is pertaining to humans and such , but humans and plants work in a similar way it specially in the mineral absorbtion , and plants immune systems

 

[jmansweed]

This is interesting info DF. My only comment after reading is the elemental make-up of the nucleus of human cells as opposed to plants. At the center of every human cell there is a molecule of iron - with plants - it is magnesium. This means human cells are more prone to react to magnetism. - can you post the link to the info your drawing from?

In a healthy ecological system plants absorb as many nutrients from the medium as needed for growth function. The magnetism that effects them, and all life on this planet is gravity, which essentially "charges" molecules negatively and/or positively (called ions). This becomes the basis for elemental reactions, EC and pH systems, absorption and hence growth.

I'm all for experimentation but I'm having trouble following the logic. Relatively week magnets around the pot seem like they will simply attract microscopic molecules of metal to them.

Water is composed of non-ferrous items - hydrogen and oxygen. You can ionize liquid water and frozen water will align it's molecules north and south with the Earth's poles but with-out serious and constant magnetism its hard to effect it's natural charges. I do know about magnets having an effect on growth but have not seen evidence pointing to increased production. For example, plants can grow with unusual variations when magnetized. The wheat and grains in the link below for example bend under increased magnetism but produce the same.

Seedlings however, were effected positively and grew faster - more so because the direction of polar magnetism was increased allowing the tap root an "easier" route to follow. From my understanding magnetism and more specifically geo-magnetism orientate molecules in the environment. This creates a formatted structure into which all life interacts.

hXXp://pubs.aic.ca/doi/pdf/10.4141/cjps63-104

For example, when magnets were used to reorientated beet growth, scientists simply grew beets sideways ( hXXp://pubs.aic.ca/doi/pdf/10.4141/cjps64-055). I'm having trouble seeing benefit in terms of productivity and plant health. I'm curious but need more sited info to jump on board.......

 

[DrFever]

The process of magnetizing water increases its solubility and filtering ability. Nutrients are dissolved easily in magnetized water. It can be used for irrigation and increases the fertility of the soil. Magnetized water helps in easy penetration of minerals in the plant cell. This decreases the amount of water needed for irrigation. At times, sea water of certain ppm levels (parts per million levels of salt) can be used for irrigation in cultivations that require salty water.

Fertilizers get dissolved in magnetized water and easily penetrate to the plant cell, thereby decreasing the use of fertilizers. Nowadays, many horticultural activities are carried out using the principles of magnetism.

Many scientists had made an hypothesis that if a magnet was placed below the plants, those containing iron lean towards the ground. However, experiments have proved them wrong. In fact, plants with magnets below them grew taller than those without magnets below them. Welcome to the new era of biomagnetics!

 

[jmansweed]

I think at this point I'm aware what you think magnets will do - what I'm wondering is: Where are you getting this information from?

 

[DrFever]

you know we live in a era where scientists are finding some really neat stuff from human brain that send electrical currents to Newtons law
i fond this very interesting

Plants use photosynthesis to convert light energy to chemical energy, which is stored in the bonds of sugars they use for food. The process takes place in chloroplasts, the cellular powerhouses that make sugars and give leaves and algae their green color. In the chloroplasts, water is split into oxygen, protons and electrons. Sunlight penetrates the chloroplast and zaps the electrons to a high energy level, and a protein promptly grabs them. The electrons are passed down a series of proteins, which successively capture more and more of the electrons' energy to synthesize sugars until all the electrons' energy is spent.

In this experiment, the researchers intercepted the electrons just after they had been excited by light and were at their highest energy levels. They placed the gold electrodes in the chloroplasts of algae cells and siphoned off the electrons to generate the tiny electrical current.

The result, the researchers say, is electricity production that doesn't release carbon into the atmosphere. The only byproducts of photosynthesis are protons and oxygen.