Marsrover1 said:
Stony its not so much they will arrest you for your trash it will make em start watching u investigating u ect... get warrants find your ladies that kinda thing. i think its called probable cause i don't think they need a warrant if they have probable cause.. not sure
Probable cause is what the cops use for a search when after something like smelling pot in your car or apartment.
You're right. If you throw things in the trash that are obvious drug stuff, some do-gooder will turn you into the cops. Then the cops will watch you.
Evidence for a warrant is a different matter. A judge has to grant a warrant. A cop has to show some sort of evidence to a judge that will hold up in court. Otherwise, it's an illegal search and again, it's thrown out.
Them finding something in your trash can is not evidence to search your house unless much more evidence is attached to the event.
Jeeeeez guys. This isn't Nazi Germany. It's the USA still. Our rights are still there. You can't flaunt dope any more. It's that simple. Some do-gooder will see it and turn you in for a pat on the back.
The cops promote that type of thinking. Turn in Mom. Turn in your Dad. You're doing them a favor, kid. The evil drugs have them. Save them, kiddies.
If a crime is serious enough, like a mass murder or something, and they find a smoking machine gun in your trash can, then sure, any judge they ask is going to allow them to bust in your door. But they still have to ask a judge. This ain't the movies.
Of course, a "John Doe" warrant can be obtained over the phone in a matter of minutes if needed like in the example I gave above. The judge takes down the info, grants the John Doe and your door becomes splinters. Their reasoning for the warrant better hold up at that point. If not, a nice refund will be in order from the cop shop.
The law isn't a simple thing. Cops have learned how to cover their azz.
The old joke about "Show me your papers, old man!" is no longer a joke. If the cops are looking for someone that fits your general description, they can indeed order you to "show them your papers" in the form of a photo ID.
Thank the buttheads who are blowing crap up and cutting off heads. All of us are tired of living in fear of these nut jobs. Where do you draw the line?
Protecting the rights of some guy who likes to smoke weed isn't high on their list, but we are still protected to an extent.
Justification must be given to infringe on our rights. The trick is to not give them any justification. (Like putting crap in your trash that you shouldn't).
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