aight,whatever you say.im done arguin with ya.ive spent more than enough time on it.not only that but i dont see how "its not possible",when i grew some plants outside that were in a partially shaded area,i got like 15ozs off each plant (yes,they were under partial sunlight but,his plants were not much smaller than mine.so if this is not possible under them turns..i dont know,must have been a miracle grow or somethin cuz thats what he got off of one of his harvests (best harvest he had) well end this on this note,believe it or not.its the truth and i dont know how to explain what he was doing that a normal experienced grower wouldnt do to get this.he just did.and through me,maybe you'll take the time to watch me (somebody with an experienced grower that has done the "impossible")show you what this system is capable and possibly change your opinion on this system or any other system like it.i'm not sayin im gonna get 9 pounds of smoke per plant but i can just about guarantee as long as i have a good female ratio from my seeds,i'll easily end up with 4-5 ozs per plant (more than the 1-2 per plant nickname is claiming) anyways,i hope i didnt offend anybody by defending what i've seen,its just,when you have seen something happen and everybody tells you you're lyin,its pretty annying. =) anyways,hope you all had fun with this thread and i hope no feeling were hurt by it.nickname & hemp goddess ,no hard feeling towards you.i'll be watching both of your journals and hopefully we can work through these hard times of gettin 1-2 oz's per plant.PEACE =)