thanx guys i water them every 2 days or so depending on soil temp is in 70 and drops like 5 degres at night they are on a 18/6 i use no nutes the only thing i had to spray soil with 3 in 1 because of fungus knat small problem i got it undercontrol they have groth every day and are low and bushy the spray is .02 .02 .02 a lil bit ago like ;last week they are like 3 weeks and look better than alot of the plants i see in here so im proud i grew a couple of years ago with 40 plants and 31 were female (luck) with 2 1000w hps and 1 2000w hps mh switch a specialty and no all i got is part of a closet and only 5 plants and 3 lok like female so far but not sure look like other early female i had! all i am using now is two shop light with 2 42w cfl in each using y adaptor the groth i am happy with !