C.O.B LED panels

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frankgrimes

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thought i would start a thread to give info on c.o.b panels and what C.O.B actually means.

here's a simple article explaining what they are all about.

http://www.prophotonix.com/resources/Technical-Overviews/about-chip-on-board.aspx

"COB LED means chip on board LED, it’s one of bare chip technologies, which interconnect bare chip to substrate by conductive or non-conductive adhesive, and then wire bonding to achieve its electrical connection. COB package is attach number of chips directly to the substrate, then packaged together by silica gel, epoxy resin or other materials, the yellow part is phosphor."

where as surface mounted LED's or "SMD LED" is an abbreviation for Surface-Mount-Device Light-Emitting Diode. An SMD LED Module is a type of LED module that uses Surface-mount technology (SMT) to mount LED chips on printed circuit boards (PCB).

also now there are new technologies know as "modular designs" which are basically a number of diode clusters placed into a unit that are easily replaceable should anything go wrong during a grow.


basically non modular panels are the most likely to have a fault that will hinder your grow. if one of the LED's on this type of panel goes out it will more than likely cause a group around it to go out as well. if this happens you will have the option to either finish your grow with partial wattage or send the light back to have it repaired but that definitely wont be good for your plants. and also surface mounted LED's can face this same problem but most likely only one chip will go out rather than a bunch around it. the types of LED grow lights people should be looking to buy are modular designs that have parts that are easily replaceable as then down the line when something goes wrong you wont be running into big headaches. then you can think of your light as a long term investment that can be upgraded in the future rather than something that gets worn out once and is no longer of good use.



an example of a C.O.B panel would be the mars sun series from mars hydro:

http://www.mars-hydro.com/led-grow-light/sun-series

an example of a surface mounted LED's is hydro grows SOL models (although they incorporate a modular design as well) :

https://www.hydrogrowled.com/Sol-1-45W-85W-LED-Grow-Light-(G4)-P188C59.aspx


and an example of modular design would be the GSX series from Grow Standard LED:

http://www.growstandardled.com/collections/gs-x-series/products/gs-x300


any further relevant info anyone wants to contrbute you are more than welcome!
 
Seems like a lot of trouble to go to and post the links to COB and Surface mounted lights and then link them backwards.

Are you the owner, or just a sales guy from GSX?
 
hello PJ! hahaha! no i just had a tiff with another member about what a cob is was trying to make a point. the guys at grow standard offered me a good deal to mention them in the forums as well so i figured i would keep my word!
 
Seems like a lot of trouble to go to and post the links to COB and Surface mounted lights and then link them backwards.

Are you the owner, or just a sales guy from GSX?

PJ, you saying that the Mars II are the surface mounted lights and the SOL is the cob lighting?
 
PJ, you saying that the Mars II are the surface mounted lights and the SOL is the cob lighting?

This is the COB light

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I know I know, so corny.


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new study shows actual corn on the cob lighting beats out HPS and LED! make way for the future friends
 
is there anyone on here using SOL lights ATM? ive long wanted to see how they perform but im a bit scared of them and how the diodes will react to long time use with the higher heat output.
 
So by your thinking/definition would you consider this a COB LED fixture? http://www.topledgrowlight.com/reflector-led-grow-light-144x3w.html#.VU_vTzHi4vo

Because what you keep describing as COB is not COB. I have the above fixture and it is not a COB fixture at all and it has many single led's placed on a single large board but it's not a COB light. It is not modular like my other Custom LED light but it is not COB either.
 
So by your thinking/definition would you consider this a COB LED fixture? http://www.topledgrowlight.com/reflector-led-grow-light-144x3w.html#.VU_vTzHi4vo

Because what you keep describing as COB is not COB. I have the above fixture and it is not a COB fixture at all and it has many single led's placed on a single large board but it's not a COB light. It is not modular like my other Custom LED light but it is not COB either.


its quite possible the light you linked is a cob its hard to tell when they have reflectors. my definition of a cob is a panel with multiple single diodes(chips) on (on) a large MCPCB(board) (COB) and as far as im concerned thats exactly what the mars2 has no? but maybe ive got it wrong here im more than open to what other people have to say.
 
Frank it looks like you are a little confused on what COB lighting is and isn't. If there is One person who I trust with knowing his stuff on LED Tech it is PJ.
 
More about knowing definitions, than anything . Gotta be pretty brain dead not to able to tell the difference. This led stuff isn't rocket science.
 
well this is why we are here fellas , looks as though i did have my definitions mixed up and i apologize for putting up mixed info.

MR1 and hamster lewis - in particular i would like to extend my apologies you were right and i was wrong did not want to come off as a prick or anything havn't been on these old forums in years i know its an easy thing to do.
 
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