MG soil burned me for the last time. Need advice from the pro's!

[pussum]

Ok, so I have finally finished, or at least, am close to finishing my second grow. I used the MG three month potting soil and for some darn reason it burned the ever loving crap out of the plants really late in the game. I thought after almost three months they would have been used to it, but nope. Over night they just turned brown and are now not looking so hot. So I am cutting this one short and am going to harvest next week.

Regardless I have decided to try another approach to the grow. I am thinking about using new soil and what not but I am not sure where to start. I am looking to try just basic soil with no nutrients added and adding the nutes myself so that I can control how much they get. This is where I need some help. I need a lot of suggestions on soils, types of nutes, and watering scheduales. I am looking for the whole deal. My plants are only growing to half their potential. I am not going to be using bagseed on the next grow I am ordering reall purebreeds and am going to try my luck with that, but I feel that if I am going to invest money in some good seeds I should do them justice with a proper grow.

I am asking anyone and everyone for help on this one. My growing confidence is about shot and I could really use the wonderful guiding hand of the experts. I know that I have access to fox farms products and pretty much all the major professional growing products that can be found at any specialty shop. I finally got my grow chamber to stay at a level temp and humidity. So I know I have isolated my problem to the soil and nutes.

Thank you all very much in advance. Please feel free to get as detailed as you would like. If I have anyquestions on the suggestions I will ask and hopefully I can learn a thing or two.

 

[headband]

I think foxfarm oceanforest is the best soil you can get your hands on. It has a little perlite in it already, but i recommend mixing 1 cup per gallon extra, helps get the best drainage possible. That is what I used my first grow and im still :shocked: i love their nutes too

 

[gagjababy]

I use a mix of 1pt perlite (I use miracle grow because that's all I can find), 1 part peat moss( not MG), 1 pt mushroom compost, and 1 pt vermiculite I use 1 tablespoon of dolomite lime per gallon of soil., this never burned my plants. I feed on the regular schedule with botanicare progrow/bloomeven though the mushroom compost and MG perlite has nutes they are just supplemental. I water my plants with ph'd water with superthrive for the first 2 weeks and then begin the nutes. But if your looking for a neutral soil scotts premium top soil is a rich mix with no nutes added I found it at walmart. I got the shroom compost, vermiculite, perlite at Lowes and the Canadian peat moss at a local nursery. If all else fails you can't go wrong with go for promix. Hope this helps!

 

[trillions of atoms]

pussum, your going in the right direction- plants grow fine in mg soil for a minute- but late in flower it burns almost EVERYTIME! get some FF soil if you can, if not i will give you a killer soil mix that you can whip up in no time.

perlite is yer friend! more is better as you can always add nutes- not drianage.

pm me if you cant find fox farms stuff- ill hook u up

good luck bro on the harvest!

dont forget a smoke report!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[smokybear]

Anything fox farms is good stuff. I recommend the pro mix. Really great stuff. I have heard terrible things about mg soil but I have seen some spectacular results from it also so I don't know what to believe. Also, perlite is your BEST friend. I use lots of perlite in my mix because I can always add more nutrients if necessary. It also allows lots of oxygen to get to the roots. Just my thoughts. Take care and be safe.

 

[lowrydergrower775]

eh foxfarm charges too much make your own soil or go with promix

 

[Flyinghigh]

Hay Pussum
yea I know what ur talkin about and let me say I am NOT going to use MG on my next grow I am going to TRY to Order some fox farm or if not try some Organic stuff from the Nursey next time and I got to order as soon as I can sit at this comp next month..
MG 3 months feeding is to Much for MJ at the end and this grow I use just reg poting Soil with a mix of the old 3 month feed and seems to be fine but I have 2 more months to go before harvest on these bagg seeds and time will tell..
Yes I am also going to order some seeds too when I get one of those visa card from walmart next month..

 

[headband]

eh foxfarm charges too much make your own soil or go with promix

i normaly spend at least $65 every 2 days on weed so a bag of $20 soil for a free HP in 3 months is totally worth it. I hate penny pinching growing:shocked: your not penny pinching LRG(lowrydergrower) Ha Lifted Research Group... $20 is nothing.. get the foxfarm.

 

[Richy-B]

Yeah, I wouldn't recommend MG, not only isn't it organic(if that's what your go'n 4) but you need to get a soil accustomed for your specific strain. Some FF nutes aren't what your strain needs. I use a High Porosity Growing Medium. Pre-mixed and bought at my local grow store called Premire Pro Mix HP with extra perlite
-65-75% by volume Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss
-Perlite
-Wetting agent
-Dolomitic and Calcitic limestone(ph adjuster)
This way I know how much nutes they're getting and when they're getting it. I've seen alot of grows go bad because of MG. My very first little grow is one of them.

 

[pussum]

thanks guys, all good stuff.

 

[Growdude]

Maybe its time for hydro?

 

[Fretless]

I'm no big fan of MG soil, but are you sure it's not just the natural plant changes at end-of-flowering? Becuase they often do look like they're dying late in the game, leaves turning yellow and brown and falling off.
I've used that soil for a whole grow, and didn't experience anything abnormal, but yeah, the plants looked pretty bad by the end. Except for the buds. I had gone beyond the 3 months and had been using foliar and soil feeds in mid-flowering.

 

[harvester]

im using mg now and have in the past in some locations its hard to find great soil. i also have seen excatly what bearfootbob decribed and the bud was awesome i also went beyond 3 months and didnt feed any thing but water the last 3 weeks a slow flush kinda thing. mg can be a little rough on some strains but most seem to grow out of their sensitivity to it.

 

[Hick]

I'm no fan of MG products either, but I'm carefull what I say.
The bros. grunt use it exclusively. Check out his grows and imagine the buds he would be producing, if he weren't experiiencing all those Miracle Grow woes..