1st time Hydro Gro Wanna Ride

[CheebaCheeba]

This would be my first time posting in this forum, in fact any forum so please be patient. I have been lurking around here for the past few weeks and have gained incredible knowledge by reading other peoples grow journals and problem posts. So thank you to everyone involved here. Your experience is irreplaceable. I decided to make a journal so that someone else can benifit from my goods and bads like I did.

My Setup:
2 1000w HPS Hydrofarm Air Cooled
Vortex Exaust Blower
Aeroflo2 30 site. 25 gal res
50lb CO2 Tank with Regulator
1/6 HP Aquarium Chiller
Humidifier
Ozone Purifier
Oscilating Fan
35 Gal Mixing Res
Gen Hydro 3 Part - Micro, Gro, Bloom and KaBloom
Diamond Nectar, Final Flush, Hydroguard
PH - Up, Down
Hanna Combo Meter - PH, EC, PPM and Temp
Light Mover (currently not in use)
Room is 11' l x 7' w x 8' h - 608 CF
Mylar 50 ft
Hydroton
Fire Extinguisher
Smoke Detector
12 Purple Urkle
12 Skunk #1
6 Blue Dot

Currently:
Room Temp - 85 Degrees
RH - 35%
Res Temp - 74 Degrees
PPM - 350
PH - 5.85
Lights are 5 feet from plants
24/0
very light nutes Half of what Gen Hydro suggested for clones, cuttings.

So there it is... Just picked up the baby's yesterday and dropped em into the AeroFlo last night. Woke up this morning checked on them and all of the measurements are the same. And they look a bit happier. So I think I'm off to a good start.
Any sugestions or advice will be appriciated. Thank you in advance.
Cheeba

Here are some pics of the setup before the clones moved in.​

 

[jaz1873]

Nice set up mate for a first grow..iv been told on here to start a seed of young cutting on just plain water for 2 weeks then after that use 1/4 recommeded dosage. Im pretty sure but if anyone wants to correct me..

Good luck man

 

[rockydog]

Sounds right to me jaz1873. That is a beautiful setup for a first grow. I wish you the best on this journey.

 

[CheebaCheeba]

Thanx for all good wishes. Things are still good altho the leaves of some of the plants are twisting. Not sure what is causing this. I have done a bit of research and from what ive gathered it might be a magnesium defientcy. So I did a water change this morning and brought the PH down to 5.55 to allow for MG uptake. Was this a good thing to do? Hope so. Any advice is appriciated. Thanks

 

[Inspector420]

Very nice for first time I wish you lots of luck...

 

[learnin to gro]

now i grow in soil but everyone of my first nodes and second nodes leaves twisted to some degree and they are now 14-18 inches tall and bushy... i was told that sometimes leaves just twist

 

[Elephant Man]

Wow, quite impressive list of toys . It looks like you have got everything right, as far as I can tell. Only thing I can think of to add right now is I remember reading about someone having great success with an aeroflo once they learned to constantly add hydrogen peroxide. If it wasn't on this forum, it was probably on cc.

Hopefully KADE will see this.

 

[Stoney Bud]

Thanx for all good wishes. Things are still good altho the leaves of some of the plants are twisting. Not sure what is causing this. I have done a bit of research and from what ive gathered it might be a magnesium defientcy. So I did a water change this morning and brought the PH down to 5.55 to allow for MG uptake. Was this a good thing to do? Hope so. Any advice is appriciated. Thanks

Nice setup you have there. Half strength is too strong for small clones. You've prob got a little nute overdose going.

Dilute your nutes down to 1/8th strength until the clones are showing new growth for a few days and then move up to 1/4 strength until the plants are about 6 inches tall. Then move to half strength until they're 12 inches tall and go to full strength.

You'll see an improvement in about a week. They should take off. When you go to 1/4 strength, move your lights down to about 4 feet and at 1/2 strength, down to 3.5 feet. At full strength nutes when you get there, try 3 feet but watch the leaf tips closely for curling or a "dry" look. If that happens, just move the light back up 6 inches at a time until the plants love it again.

Good luck man!!!

 

[Elephant Man]

Looks lke you bought the aeroflo chambers and built your own, bravo, you beat me to it.

 

[CheebaCheeba]

now i grow in soil but everyone of my first nodes and second nodes leaves twisted to some degree and they are now 14-18 inches tall and bushy... i was told that sometimes leaves just twist

You know I was told that today as well. Maybe I should take a hit off the bong and just chill. Lol damn first timers. Thx

Wow, quite impressive list of toys . It looks like you have got everything right, as far as I can tell. Only thing I can think of to add right now is I remember reading about someone having great success with an aeroflo once they learned to constantly add hydrogen peroxide. If it wasn't on this forum, it was probably on cc.

Hopefully KADE will see this.

Thank you. I actually just picked up some hydroguard. I hope it will help.

Nice setup you have there. Half strength is too strong for small clones. You've prob got a little nute overdose going.

Dilute your nutes down to 1/8th strength until the clones are showing new growth for a few days and then move up to 1/4 strength until the plants are about 6 inches tall. Then move to half strength until they're 12 inches tall and go to full strength.

You'll see an improvement in about a week. They should take off. When you go to 1/4 strength, move your lights down to about 4 feet and at 1/2 strength, down to 3.5 feet. At full strength nutes when you get there, try 3 feet but watch the leaf tips closely for curling or a "dry" look. If that happens, just move the light back up 6 inches at a time until the plants love it again.

Good luck man!!!

Thx Stoney I will heed your advice on the nutes. Do you think the lights are to high from the plants? they are at 5 ft 1000w?

BREAKING NEWS
So I started having a problem with the temp in the res. Was playing around with frozen water bottles to bring down the temp. Got fet up and added a 1/6 hp chiller to the arsenal. Problem solved. Altho wifeys not to happy. lol<img>

 

[Sin inc]

big room nice setup wish i had some thing like that. can't wait to see some more

 

[THE BROTHER'S GRUNT]

Very nice set up CheebaCheeba. Wish you all the best on your grow.

 

[CheebaCheeba]

All I have to say is HoLy CoW.

Installed the chiller last night, woke up this morning and the lil ladies are all perked up and ready to grow. Yessssssss
Now I have a RH problem. Way to low. Its at 25% Rh. Gonna go get a humidifier tonite. My advice to anyone reading this with the same problem I had. Get a CHILLER The time you will save battling res temps is invaluable.

 

[Stoney Bud]

All I have to say is HoLy CoW.

Installed the chiller last night, woke up this morning and the lil ladies are all perked up and ready to grow. Yessssssss
Now I have a RH problem. Way to low. Its at 25% Rh. Gonna go get a humidifier tonite. My advice to anyone reading this with the same problem I had. Get a CHILLER The time you will save battling res temps is invaluable.

I've thought about going this route. Could you post a link to the one you bought? Even if it's not from the same place. That way, everyone could see what you're talking about.

Thanks.

 

[CheebaCheeba]

I've thought about going this route. Could you post a link to the one you bought? Even if it's not from the same place. That way, everyone could see what you're talking about.

Thanks.

For Sure. I walked into my local Aquarium shop and they had a sale for halloween I guess. Like I said I got mine for 395.00, paid cash so they cut off the tax.
Heres the link to the PDF http://www.coralreefsupply.com/docs/aquachill_16.pdf
Here is a link to where you can buy it but I would suggest looking on EBay.
http://www.coralreefsupply.com/index.php?aquarium=detail&detail=429

 

[Stoney Bud]

Hey CC, I'm not sure I understand how you're using this device. It looks as if it only cools the water in the reservoir. How does this affect the temperature in your grow room and the RH?

Please tell me what exactly you're doing with this thing. You've sparked my interest.

 

[Elephant Man]

Hey CC, I'm not sure I understand how you're using this device. It looks as if it only cools the water in the reservoir. How does this affect the temperature in your grow room and the RH?

Please tell me what exactly you're doing with this thing. You've sparked my interest.

All the reading I have been doing on aeroponics, everyone uses chillers, they are to get res temps down around 65 degrees. Seems the faster, more complicated systems have more problems with res temps getting out of control. Bigger pumps, shorter cycles etc. all heating the res.

I have to try and find a DIY res chiller I saw on net once, for those of us who have more time than money . I think it was a disassembled window ac unit, but I remember something about it has to be a stainless condensor.

Great Thread!

Edit: One DIY Chiller http://saltaquarium.about.com/od/dyiprojects/l/bldiydonchiller.htm

 

[CheebaCheeba]

Stoney, I think that you misunderstood what I was saying. Probally in part to me jumping around in my writing.

All I have to say is HoLy CoW.

Installed the chiller last night, woke up this morning and the lil ladies are all perked up and ready to grow. Yessssssss
Now I have a RH problem. Way to low. Its at 25% Rh. Gonna go get a humidifier tonite. My advice to anyone reading this with the same problem I had. Get a CHILLER The time you will save battling res temps is invaluable.

Hey CC, I'm not sure I understand how you're using this device. It looks as if it only cools the water in the reservoir. How does this affect the temperature in your grow room and the RH?

Please tell me what exactly you're doing with this thing. You've sparked my interest.

Sorry if I sparked any unnessasary intrests. This chiller that I have spoken about only works to cool or heat your res.
I seperatley bought a humidifier to bring up the RH. Also got a air purifier to get rid of any pollens, airborne molds, etc....
Rh was at 25% now its moving up to 40%.

All the reading I have been doing on aeroponics, everyone uses chillers, they are to get res temps down around 65 degrees. Seems the faster, more complicated systems have more problems with res temps getting out of control. Bigger pumps, shorter cycles etc. all heating the res.

I have to try and find a DIY res chiller I saw on net once, for those of us who have more time than money . I think it was a disassembled window ac unit, but I remember something about it has to be a stainless condensor.

Great Thread!

Edit: One DIY Chiller http://saltaquarium.about.com/od/dyiprojects/l/bldiydonchiller.htm

The only problem that I see with a DIY Chiller is that you wouldnt be able to regulate the temp. That is with out buying additional equipment, sensors, temp guages, etc... Which would probally end up costing the same as a chiller you would buy in a aquarium shop. Thus saving the all most important.... TIME To each his own. Also as I said before, you can set the Chiller to cool when it gets hot and heat when it gets cold + 0r - 2, 3,5 degrees.

Thanks Elephant Man, I am sure many people will find that info to be very useful.

 

[Elephant Man]

Thank you, glad you didn't mind me adding that. You are definately on your way to one serious aero setup, I am very jealous and excited to see your results .

Where is KADE? You should change your thread title to first time AERO grow

 

[CheebaCheeba]

and I sit here patiently waiting... Growth is going good. I finally got everything stable and they look great. Some are having a hard time catching up.
Ph has been the same for the past three days @ 5.85 as well as the PPM @ 386.
So nothing really to report except I got high and wanted to write...
See Ya