Speaking from experience I would strongly advise anyone to NOT order ANY strain of lowryder from Dr. Chronic. On 2 seperate occasions ive ordered a lowryder strain from the doc and both times the plants grew very small(smaller than a typical healthy LR) with many nutrient issues. Ive had many successful grows and have much successful experience troubleshooting nute/ph problems and ive never seen anything that was as big of a pain in the arse as these. Im soil growing and have a terrible time producing any decent yeild. Also if you look on this site you'll see many people posting saying that the doc doesnt have actual LR genetics(i believe it). I emailed him to voice a concern about my mix of growing trouble/genetics questions and he never even did so much as to respond to my email.....bad customer service, bad strain....stay away from the docs LR at all cost