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  1. Mar 27, 2012 #21

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    Great info ozzy--thanks. Things like this are invaluable to someone like me just starting out with organics.
     
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  2. Mar 27, 2012 #22

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    Thanks I try to pass on info when i find it. The hard part is remembering where you have read things while :stoned:
     
  3. Mar 27, 2012 #23

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    I use Vics with alittle extra goodies. Great finds Ozzy.
     
  4. Mar 28, 2012 #24

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    :yeahthat:

    Pretty much the same here.

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  5. Mar 28, 2012 #25

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    enlighten me on Vics guys. Thx!
     
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    Go to page 1 of this thread and keep scrolling down. It's there.

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  7. Jul 4, 2012 #27

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  8. Jul 4, 2012 #28

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    Mountain Mix organic soil
    http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showthread.php?p=782007#post782007

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    13 cf (99 gallons) of good organic soil
    2 cf of rice hulls
    50 lbs worm castings
    12 cups soybean meal
    18 cups alfalfa meal
    9 lbs bone meal
    5 lbs fish meal
    18 cups pulverized agricultural limestone (lime)
    3 lbs epsom salts
    5 lbs rock phosphate
    6 lbs azomite
    2.5 oz's humic acid concentrate
    6 lbs kelp meal
    10 lbs green sand
    8 lbs Epsoma plant-tone (bio-tone)
    2 lbs seabird guano
    2 cups potash
    1/2 cup Mycorrhiza
    1/2 cup micro nutrients (trace elements)
    1 cup molasses
    15 gallons ph'd water
     
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  9. Jul 31, 2012 #29

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    TLO Mix 2011 Supernatural Version 2.1 BY: THE REV

    Master Soil-Mix Recipe

    BASE MIX

    2 gal Quality Organic Soil-mix (or good organic recycled soil mix)
    2 gal Thoroughly Rinsed Coir (coconut fiber)
    2 gal Perlite (small nugget size)
    2 gal Earthworm Castings (fresh earthworm castings, and/or fresh compost works too)

    AMENDMENTS

    1½ cup Grow or Bloom ‘Pure’ by Organicare (or 1 cup 5-5-5)
    ½ cup Greensand
    ¾ cup Ground Oyster Shells (1 cup if no crushed oyster shells)
    1½ cup Crushed Oyster Shells (optional)
    ½ cup Dolomite Lime (powdered)
    1 cup Prilled (pelletized) Fast Acting Dolomite Lime
    ¼ cup Blood Meal (and/or High N Bird/Bat Guano 12-8-2 N-P-K if flowering 1/8 cup of each)
    ¼ cup (heaping) Feather Meal
    1 cup un-steamed (granular) Bone Meal (like Whitney Farms brand)
    ½ cup Bulb Food (3-8-8 as one good N-P-K example)
    ¼ cup Soft Rock Phosphate (powdered)
    ½ cup (heaping) Gypsum (powdered)
    ½ cup Kelp Meal
    4 cups (heaping) Composted Steer Manure (this inoculates your mix with specialized bacteria and primo organic matter)

    ½ cup Azomite granular (add an additional ¼ cup greensand if no Azomite)
    1 cup Humic Acid Ore granular (like from Down to Earth brand)
    1 cup Alfalfa Meal (or 2 cups pellets – make sure pellets are all organic no additives)
    ½ cup Rock Phosphate Granular (optional)
    1 cup (heaping) organic rice (important for the good fungi in this soil-mix)

    This mix should be moistened (Do not get it soaking wet!) with chlorine free water, and turned over every few days, for about 15 days before use. This is what I call “cooking” your soil, and letting it get pretty dry before use, is fine. The nutrients don’t evaporate or anything, so no worries there, per storage over time. If this soil-mix turns out to be too hot (powerful) for some reason, just cut it with good bagged organic soil until you get the strength your environment and genetics demands.

    I find cooking mine for about 30 days works the best for me, but I have often used it sooner, like at 2 weeks, and just remember the warmer it is outside wherever the soil-mix is at, the faster the cooking processes will happen. You can use a pH meter (soil pH meter) to tell when it is done cooking too. I wait until it is in the 6.2 – 6.8 range, which normally takes about 2 weeks, because as it kicks off cooking the pH will often be very low, like around 4.9 isn’t uncommon when it first starts to cook.

    ONLY FOR USE WITH PURE WATER SOURCES, LIKE REVERSE OSMOSIS, RAIN, OR DISTILLED WATER. DO NOT USE WELL, TAP, OR SPRING WATER WITH THIS RECIPE.

    This soil-mix is meant to be used along with the spike and layer TLO dynamic, and while it is quite capable of standing alone, it works supernaturally when you add the spike and layering dynamics.

    Killer Spike Blends...

    Spike #1 vegg
    ½ cup blood
    ½ cup steamed bone meal
    ½ cup high N bat/bird guano
    ½ cup feather meal
    ½ cup kelp meal
    1 tablespoon ground oyster shell (optional)

    Spike #2 all-purpose/flowering
    ½ cup feather meal
    ¼ cup bulb food 3-8-8
    ¼ cup soft rock phosphate
    ½ cup steamed bone meal
    ½ cup high P bat/bird guano
    ½ cup kelp meal
    1 tablespoon ground oyster shell (optional)


    Revski


    So for the spikes you simply take a dowel or a bamboo pole and stick it into the soil and spin it so it makes a nice hole, then mix like a teaspoon of one of the above recipes with some buffer like castings or soil, and fill the hole. the microlife will colonize these zones before the roots do so when the roots find them they will be like high octane fuel!!



    Layering is making different layers of soil, nutes, etc.

    Example: I use a mix 1 part of the above soil and 1 part steer manure 1 part casting, 1 part coir and 1 part small perlite all mixed together for my bottom layer, then some of the soil mix gets put on top of that only about a quarter of your pot should be filled, then a small layer of of just plain recycled soil, none of the amendments from the list, your plant will sit on top of that, plain soil up to the top of the root ball then I top off with 2.1 mix and finally mulch.


    Also you can use dry nutes in layers, one I use on the very bottom and rite under the mulch layer at 1 tablespoon is,
    2 parts blood meal
    2 parts high n bird/ bat guano
    1 part ground oyster shells

    TLO growing takes a lot of N because of the micro farmers, they need N to live, if not enough available N in the soil they will steal it from the plant!
     
  10. Feb 16, 2013 #30

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    New "KISS" Method im trying. This is basically a Revised LC's Method, with the use of Dr. Earth All Purpose Dry Fertilizer, as apposed to Bone meal and Blood Meal. Seems to get me a little further.

    2.2 cf bag (4cf) Compressed Premier Peat Moss
    1.5 cf Perlite
    1.5 cf EWC or Mushroom Compost
    5.5 cups Dolomite Lime
    3 cups Greensand
    3 cups Kelp Meal
    6 cups Dr. Earth Life: All Purpose Fertilizer 5-5-5

    Wet and allow to "cook" for two weeks before using.

    Use Teas as needed, fish emulsion for veg and Bat Guano for Flower, and lots of molasses. I use my teas ay 1/2 strength in early veg and flower, and full strength in late veg and flower. No need for a flush and i feed til chop.
     
  11. Mar 12, 2013 #31

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    I've been devouring everything in this tread and I have to say thank you all soooo much for taking the time to write all this.

    I think I may have a little something to add to the conversation that many will find useful.

    When I first started making "super soil" I read all sorts of info about how each "master" (no disrespect intended) creates their own blend of what is basically the same list of ingredients. But the immediate problem was... how much of each ingredient do you need to buy to make _____ 10 gallon pots? After hashing it out for a while I decided to put it all together in an Excel spreadsheet so that I could change the recipe any way I wanted and it would tell me how much of each ingredient I needed to buy to make a certain number of pots.

    Basically, you put in a pot size, the number of pots you want to make, and then you can set up your ratio of each ingredient and it tells you how much to buy.

    http://www.naturesmeds.us/docs/SuperSoilCalculator.xlsx

    You will have to have Microsoft Excel before it will work.

    Here's a sample pic of what it looks like...
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    You change the amounts in the Gallons or Cups column and it tells you how much you need to purchase in three different forms... Gallons, cubic feet, and pounds.

    Let me know what you think....
     
  12. Apr 18, 2013 #32

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    my method

    50% coco coir 50% foxfarm ocean forest.
    Feed composted manure tea after the nutrients in the soil have gone(4-5 weeks)
     
  13. Oct 19, 2013 #33

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    Anyone got info on "fritted trace elements". Link to purchase. Searches for purchase are leading to certain specific ones not labeled that.
     
  15. Dec 20, 2014 #35

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    wonder if that is a type..fritted?
     
  16. Dec 21, 2014 #36

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    What I was looking at Rose. "1tsp fritted trace elements"

     
  17. Dec 21, 2014 #37

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    Yes, it is a type, like prilled, but I can't tell you just why. The term is not used much anymore.

    The simplest thing would be to snag some Azomite, it has everything! 1cup/cf of mix is plenty and a 5lb bag is enough for several cf of mix.

    Its name describes it. A to Z Of Minerals Including Trace Elements

    Wet
     
  18. Dec 22, 2014 #38

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    Right on thanks guys!
     
  19. Jun 30, 2015 #39

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    Nice Post. Thanks for taking the time to discuss on the topic, I feel strongly glad to read more on this topic. If possible, such as gain knowledge, would you mind updating your blog with some additional information? Soil Testing Laboratory
     
  20. Jun 30, 2015 #40

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    Nice Post. Thanks for taking the time to discuss on the topic, I feel strongly glad to read more on this topic. If possible, such as gain knowledge, would you mind updating your blog with some additional information? Soil Testing Laboratory
     

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