The jocks were in vegg for 4weeks. For the ww all I remember is it was about 6inches when put in flower. Insane I don't think I will be using the 1000watt system since I am not planning on growing more then 4-6 plants anymore, which I think my 400watt system should do it. Not that I don't want to use the 1000watt and get bigger buds, it's just that there are heat issues that I got to look at. Althought AC goes on ones lights do, but the room still doesn't get cooler then 80F when the light is on and thats with this weather so in summer it be way to hot to use a 1000watt for my setup.