The fact a Rep (aka reseller) can not give specs on a light they apparently make?Talked to kind led rep yesterday..said veg at 3 feet..flower at,24inches....but he could not give me specs on parameters of exact light coverage..they have no paperwork..anyone know anytjing? Par lumen reading at certain heights.?
Lol pj...advanced-apollo-sara they r liers and not honest.."SARA" threatened to call cops on me cuz I asked for proof of usa made Bridgelux. ..never again..The fact a Rep (aka reseller) can not give specs on a light they apparently make?
Pretty telling isn't it? I mean at least Advanced lies to your face...
That said, I am not sure why people put so much focus on the specs other than coverage. If it works, what difference does it make really? It's not like most understand the specs anyway keeping it real. Just know to get an accurate measurement, one must first own a real tester for LED's and they are not cheap. Most use PAR meters which TBH are pretty worthless with the tech but provide some numbers they can slap on a fixture and make you believe whatever they want.
There are some PAR tests on youtube for the Kind fixtures, but keeping it real, I wouldn't believe that crap either. Do they really work as advertised is all I want to know and at what cost.
Everything else just does not matter...
yes I get what your saying pj it makes swnce..yes light looks same..ive delt with china and counterfeit for 20 years..so yes they have couple factory s that produce many lights..and yes there are grows on you tube many of them...thanks for chimining in pj im still learning. ..If you get results and you are happy at the end of the day great.
Ask them who builds their lights and see what they say.
Here is a pic of my first generation built light from 2012.
See anything that looks familiar?
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Ive got nothing to say about Sara, nor had I mentioned her in this thread. My comments were aimed at Advanced, who was called out claiming they made their own lights and were not. I mean take it apart and see the drivers are made in China. It's all been long documented yet people still buy their lights knowing they are a third party light.
I'm sure with all the pretty pictures, making claims that they are "the Best" and give a "longer than any other company money back warranty" that they will earn some fans, but because I know better, and hope to spread good knowledge to the people of MP I'll call it like I see it.
Don't take it personal, it's just the opinion I have of companies that prey on the uneducated consumer.
If their lights were half as good as they claimed, don't ya think you could do a quick search and find a grow or 50?
Pretty sure I saw a thread on here with a guy claiming he couldn't find a grow anywhere for Kind lights. Wonder why that is?
Best of luck to you, truly.
Yes mam anytime..I have 2 300 kind led on top...have 2 foot a bulb finisher T5...I put that on side so it is getting more light penetrating a side angle..ive done this one and loved itI am disoriented seeing where the lights are? So you have one above the canopy and one on the side? Help this old lady please.