I have been toying with trying to germ some bagseeds that a friend has had lying around for a few months off and on. I don't know exactly how old they are, but they are probably 10+ years so I doubt they are any good. I could get a few of them to crack and they would just barely shoot out the start of a taproot, but it was brown or black and would just stop at that point. It's really no big deal, I was just curious, as I've got some widow and bubblelicious seeds in some starter sponges right now that I just got from the Dr. so we'll see what happens. I may start a grow journal on them, I don't know yet.