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I read up on LST growing. This means that the grower trains his plant from very early on to grow in a low circular pattern that results in a very low, bushy plant. Have any of you ever used this method and do you know what benefits it offers if any?
 
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theyorker said:
I read up on LST growing. This means that the grower trains his plant from very early on to grow in a low circular pattern that results in a very low, bushy plant. Have any of you ever used this method and do you know what benefits it offers if any?
We have done it a number of times. Instead of getting one main cola you get about 20 smaller one's or however many tops your plant has at the time of flower. It also helps the plant stay small and bushy like you stated. ;)
 

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Ive used lst from day one in my current grow. There are pics in my journal.
 

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See, this is what the forum needs. Guides, detailed guides on how to do all this stuff. I hear LST and I am like *** so I go do research and don't really find anything on it, or how to do it. We need guides for basic and complicated things. Guides on how to grow a veg box, how to build a grow chamber, how to wire up a ballast, how to do LST, electrical work, ect. We need stuff like that to A) cut back on a lot of explaining the same answer over and over again to the same old questions, B) having something that someone can work off of without having to have someone hold their hand all the way through it. They can look at the guide and go from there and ask questions as they get stuck. Instead of going ok how do i do this? and this? and this? and this? all the time.

No matter how simple it may seem to some it is very complicated to others. Guides really help out, and if you were to write the guide as you were doing the project it wouldn't really be that to big of a bother.

Myself I plan on writing a chamber guide as I go through and build mine, just so that someone out there can have something to work off of down the road because I know that I was, at first, confused. I could have had my chamber built already had I had a guide to work off of, but instead I had to do a lot of research, which really isn't bad because I learned a lot of do's and don'ts when it comes to what is needed but still. A tutorial would have been really nice so I wouldn't have had to bother so many people.
 

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TBG, where the **** do you find this stuff at?I searched for LST, Low Stress Training, tie down, everything!!!! Do you have all this stuff just bookmarked in you're favorites ready to be dispersed at you're disposal? Haha, well anyway, thank you for the link!!
 
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pussum said:
TBG, where the **** do you find this stuff at?I searched for LST, Low Stress Training, tie down, everything!!!! Do you have all this stuff just bookmarked in you're favorites ready to be dispersed at you're disposal? Haha, well anyway, thank you for the link!!
Like i said man all ya have to do is hit that search at the top and type in what your looking for. A **** load of stuff will come up but go through the pages and more than likely you'll find what your looking for. We have alot of killer info on here it's just most of it is burried. ;)
 

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One of the reason great threads on LST, etc. cannot be found is because there are too many threads like this one....Search first.
 

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pussum said:
See, this is what the forum needs. Guides, detailed guides on how to do all this stuff. I hear LST and I am like *** so I go do research and don't really find anything on it, or how to do it.
I did search. I even went so far as to do an advanced search. I guess it was just that it was burried to deep into the list to find but I did research it in the forum. I just couldn't find it. And yes I did poke farther than just the first page.
 
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Hey stoners. I found this website and I thought this was very informative. I'm definately going to use this method when I begin my first grow (hopefully tommorrow if I finally get my seeds.) I found it to be excellent.

Well here we go, LST (Low Stress Training) the ultimate way to maximize your yield.

Before we begin lets get some knowledge on what you will be looking at.

Light Brown : Pot Outline
Green thick Lines : Main Stem
Small Thin Lines with Green Balls on top : Fan leafs
Yellow Lines : Side Branches
Red : Tiedown Metal Hooks (or thread whichever item you use, i use Hooks its easier)

The Text in the box : First digit is Step No. and Second Digit is Pot Size, below the numbers is the type of view your looking at (either from the SIDE or from the TOP)


Now that thats out of the way lets get it on..

Please note, you dont have to do it this way, its just the idea of how to do LST, this is the way i did it and you can see the end result of 4 weeks of growth this way in my signature picture where it says FIM/LST. Some may opt to use the eggcrate method where you utilize an eggcrate around the pot and tie it down to that with zipties instead of using string or hooks running from the pot itself... this way you can cover more square footage and maximize your yield even more.

Ok heres the STEPS PICTURE for you to follow along with.



STEP 1 : Grow your plant from Seed or Clone to 3 or 4 leaf sets, some use 5 but i always use 3 because after 3rd leaf set the main stem starts to harden and it will be harder to bend over your plant properly without breaking the main stem.

STEP 2 : Using a metal hook (i cut small sections of cloths hanger and bend a U shape at the end as a hook) bend over your plant with metal hook at the last internode (space between the last set of fanleafs and the next to last) and stick the metal hook into your dirt to hold down the stem.

STEP 3 : This is really not a step, just waiting time... Take note of how the top of the plant that was bent down will bend back upwards towards the light, this could take anywhere from 3 hours to 1 day. Under my 1000 Watt Metal Halide light it does it in under 3 hours.

STEP 4 : Veg and dont tie down until you have a new leaf set. You will notice Side branching has started already because good light is getting to the main stem areas next to each fanleaf stem intersection with the main stem.

STEP 5 : Depending on your starting pot size you may have to transplant. If you started out with a large pot, repeat step 2 over and over again holding the main stem down with hooks until you reach the end of the pot. In this illustration to save time and drawings, i started out with a small pot and it reached the end of the pot after the first tiedown. I repotted it into a 10 inch pot which will be my final pot size for this plant in order for me to continue the LST Bends around the inside edge of the pot.

STEP 6 : Now that your new leaf set has formed you have enough length in growth since the first bend(s) to allow you to start bending the stem horizontally around the inside edge of the pot. Use metal hooks again to keep this bend in place. Side branches should be coming along very nicely.

STEP 7 : Continue repeating steps 4 and 6, allowing the plant to grow and then keep tieing it down along the inside edge of pot using metal hooks (or whatever your using) Side branches should be forming and growing up towards the light.

STEP 8 : Continue to repeat step 7 until you are all the way around the pot... when you reach the point where your plant first met the edge of the plant Top the plant (cut off the very top of the plant ) and hold it down horizontally with a metal hook.... During all this time of repeating step 7 you should also be tieing down horizontally the new branches that have formed from the main stem as much as possible until you use up as much space as possible inside the pot as well , the outter branches growing over the outside edge of the pot you can hold down as well with string to keep those tops even with the inner branches.

STEP 9 : After you have used up all possible space inside the pot (or your eggcrate) its time to just let it flower.. This is a side view of how it will and should look by that time with all the side branches growing upwards towards the light.... these will all become Collas unlike a non LST plant will only have one colla.

During flowering and even before due to lack of light on the main stem fan leafs which is all the way to the bottom almost against the soil those fanleafs will die off anyways, i usually cut these off the main stem right after the branch has grown out in that area, keeps things neat down below where you will need good airflow during flowering.. so go ahead and take off any fanleafs coming off the main stem that is going around the inside edge of the pot.

Set your timer to 12/12 and watch it bloom


There is no Step 10 in the picture but we all know what that is
HARVEST!!!



I hope i shed some light on the method of LST and its benefits.


this would be plagerism if i did not give a shout out to DierWolf. he did a great job at it and it would be redundant to do it again. Thank you dierwolf. PEACE!
 

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theyorker said:
Well here we go, LST (Low Stress Training) the ultimate way to maximize your yield.
Thas the exact same way I do it... cept I have screws around the outside of the pot and tie to them.
 

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theyorker said:
I read up on LST growing. This means that the grower trains his plant from very early on to grow in a low circular pattern that results in a very low, bushy plant. Have any of you ever used this method and do you know what benefits it offers if any?
heres a thread i found helpful
EDIT: Sorry no links to other sites.
 

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yea a easy to find and use guide would eliminate all these noob(not in a rude way) questions that keep appearing
 
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cdblop said:
yea a easy to find and use guide would eliminate all these noob(not in a rude way) questions that keep appearing
Right at the top of the indoor growing section it says Growing Resources go here first before asking questions. You can find almost all if not everything ya need to know about growing. The thing is people just don't wanna read period. They would rather ask a question even if it's right in front of them. http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5837
 

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THE BROTHER'S GRUNT said:
Right at the top of the indoor growing section it says Growing Resources go here first before asking questions. You can find almost all if not everything ya need to know about growing. The thing is people just don't wanna read period. They would rather ask a question even if it's right in front of them. http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5837
you are so right TBG, i see the same questions asked time and time again cause people just dont take the time to read. most all questions can be answered with just a couple hours of reading. i looked thru this site for days reading post after post before i even joined.

i give you mods credit for having a ton of patience with newer members and the repeat questions, they would be in a world of hurt if you all werent stoned outta your mind :rofl:
 

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cyberquest said:
i see the same questions asked time and time again cause people just dont take the time to read. most all questions can be answered with just a couple hours of reading. i looked thru this site for days reading post after post before i even joined.
agreed... even now... if i have a question.. i'll still take a look through oler things b4 asking someone... if it is an ''emergency" a sick plant or whatever... u'll probably find a fix by searching instead of waiting for a reply.
 

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There is no way to give an exact number on yield. It is all subjective to the growing environment and nute regimen.
 
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wat wud be roughly the least and roughly the highest?
You don't understand man. If someone answered you and gave you a number, it would be pure baloney.

There are too many variables that can affect the yield.

It's like saying: "How far will a car go on one tank of gas?"

Which car? What type of gas? How big of tank? What altitude? What driving conditions? What kind of tires? How big of engine? And on, and on, and on.

Read up on LST some more, and on vegging and flowering weed.

If you tell me most of the variables that fit your exact grow, then I can tell you the difference in yield between using LST and not using it.

Here's the list of variables that could affect the yield:

http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2942
 

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