maybe not spider mites

[crintonator]

i thought i had spider mites had webs holding leaves together and little red and black dots, thing is the dots didnt move when i sprayed them with alcohol like they didnt care. Then i noticed a stem moving, well it looked like a stem it seems its a caterpillar of some sort. After searching here and the web i found little fellas by the name of tent caterpillars. Do virtually the same thing i just pulled all mine off and killed them well see if it works.

 

[Uk1]

i had ones like that before, i thought it was bud growing through but poked it, found out how nasty that was after that lol, hate bugs! minature critters SICK