There on the carpet for the photo dude,thats all an they have been in a seedling propogator under fl light 24/7,im not stupid. I researched how to clone before I did it. And as for not being able to clone Ruderalis, their Sensiseeds (a top and renowned seed company)and does not clone is writen on their wedsite for this breed in CAPITAL LETTERS so given that I did all the preperation and maintenance to the clones correctly (as writen on this site) please can your tell me why there are no signes of anny rooting at all in any of my clones even after 2.5 wks.