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Right.. New pics... I have raised the light...From the tip of the plant to that metal reflector thing is 60cms exactly. I run a 18x6 rotation (they were cloned using the same time cycle)
That should be fine then. Later, if conditions warrant it, you can move it downward a few cm at a time to see the results. When negative results start, just move it back up to the last "good" point.
I have an oscillating fan in there now running 24x7 on low as well as my standard small exhaust fan. Its been suggested running another exhaust fan to remove any harmful vapors etc that are perhaps building up?
If the problem is the tent material giving off fumes that are plant killers, I would just get rid of it and buy another made from a different material. I think the light/heat/IR may have been your entire problem. You should notice lots of new growth within 10 days if that's the case. If the new growth is showing the same negative effects then it may be the tent. The other factors are negated with your outside experiment.
The medium is attached also.. its a canna type product, coarse coconut husk. Incidentally... I have tried the canna brand medium also with the same effect. This is the same medium I use for outdoor. I had some pics somewhere of the results with it... but they've gone walkabout. suffice to say, in an outdoor system, watering for 2 mins, 3 times a day, it was magnificent.
pH is an important factor if it's getting outside the permissible limitations. I don't think this is your problem or the plants wouldn't have responded positively when moved outside.
Potus.. (love the name btw... being an Aussie its not my place, but I have huge respect for the 'office' not necessarily the person who resides in it)
hehe, I got a wild hair and changed my screen ID from StoneyBud to POTUS during a particularly paranoid spell. I thought for some time about what to call myself. The dual meaning of the title and the phrase "Pot Us" struck me funny and I couldn't resist.
I am interested in your thoughts on the grow tent issues raised above.
Statistically, I think it's more likely that the IR/heat/light distance was the culprit. If you get new growth in the next ten days that is normal and doesn't follow the previous stages of degradation, then we've discovered the true cause of your worries. If the new growth still deteriorates as it was, then the tent may be the cause. Time will tell.
As for the nutes. I have not started feeding them yet due to the fact that I wanted to try and rule out as many things as I could before I started feeding them again.
Since you already moved the plants outside and used the same nutrients with positive results, I would think that proves your nutrients to be excluded from the possible causes of your problems.
At the moment I am hand watering it once a day to keep track of its progress. The other watering systems I have tried is a recirc running 15 mins every hour 18 hours a day, 15 mins every 3 hours 24 hours a day, and variations on that.
As I said, I've used a one hour on, two off cycle for the last ten years or so and had great results with it. The roots are immersed in a nutrient rich solution for 8 hours each day with evenly spaced oxygen saturation for 16 hours a day. That pretty much maxes out the water/nutrients/oxygen requirements of the plant.
Any direction you would be able to provide would be greatly appreciated. I hope that I have provided you with enough information.
You sure have provided good information. You've followed a logical path to resolving your problems and have gathered "outside" information to allow for the "can't see the forest for the trees" syndrome to be dislodged if truly a factor. I think you've done well and you've followed an intelligent method of discovery.
Lets wait a few days and see what effect the light distance adjustment has made.
Good luck to you man!
That should be fine then. Later, if conditions warrant it, you can move it downward a few cm at a time to see the results. When negative results start, just move it back up to the last "good" point.
I have an oscillating fan in there now running 24x7 on low as well as my standard small exhaust fan. Its been suggested running another exhaust fan to remove any harmful vapors etc that are perhaps building up?
If the problem is the tent material giving off fumes that are plant killers, I would just get rid of it and buy another made from a different material. I think the light/heat/IR may have been your entire problem. You should notice lots of new growth within 10 days if that's the case. If the new growth is showing the same negative effects then it may be the tent. The other factors are negated with your outside experiment.
The medium is attached also.. its a canna type product, coarse coconut husk. Incidentally... I have tried the canna brand medium also with the same effect. This is the same medium I use for outdoor. I had some pics somewhere of the results with it... but they've gone walkabout. suffice to say, in an outdoor system, watering for 2 mins, 3 times a day, it was magnificent.
pH is an important factor if it's getting outside the permissible limitations. I don't think this is your problem or the plants wouldn't have responded positively when moved outside.
Potus.. (love the name btw... being an Aussie its not my place, but I have huge respect for the 'office' not necessarily the person who resides in it)
hehe, I got a wild hair and changed my screen ID from StoneyBud to POTUS during a particularly paranoid spell. I thought for some time about what to call myself. The dual meaning of the title and the phrase "Pot Us" struck me funny and I couldn't resist.
I am interested in your thoughts on the grow tent issues raised above.
Statistically, I think it's more likely that the IR/heat/light distance was the culprit. If you get new growth in the next ten days that is normal and doesn't follow the previous stages of degradation, then we've discovered the true cause of your worries. If the new growth still deteriorates as it was, then the tent may be the cause. Time will tell.
As for the nutes. I have not started feeding them yet due to the fact that I wanted to try and rule out as many things as I could before I started feeding them again.
Since you already moved the plants outside and used the same nutrients with positive results, I would think that proves your nutrients to be excluded from the possible causes of your problems.
At the moment I am hand watering it once a day to keep track of its progress. The other watering systems I have tried is a recirc running 15 mins every hour 18 hours a day, 15 mins every 3 hours 24 hours a day, and variations on that.
As I said, I've used a one hour on, two off cycle for the last ten years or so and had great results with it. The roots are immersed in a nutrient rich solution for 8 hours each day with evenly spaced oxygen saturation for 16 hours a day. That pretty much maxes out the water/nutrients/oxygen requirements of the plant.
Any direction you would be able to provide would be greatly appreciated. I hope that I have provided you with enough information.
You sure have provided good information. You've followed a logical path to resolving your problems and have gathered "outside" information to allow for the "can't see the forest for the trees" syndrome to be dislodged if truly a factor. I think you've done well and you've followed an intelligent method of discovery.
Lets wait a few days and see what effect the light distance adjustment has made.
Good luck to you man!
