first timer wish me luck

[learnin to gro]

hey got some new pics up a day early from my weekly update but they are now one month from seed woohoo.... now you see the limpy lookin one do you think that it is in good shape.. thanks

 

[THE BROTHER'S GRUNT]

Your babies are looking great. Which one are you talking about? Can't really tell by the pics. It might just be shock from transplanting. How is your PH?

 

[learnin to gro]

hey is it ok to start ferts i bought the fox farms 6 pack..... im thinking grow big 1/2 strength

 

[learnin to gro]

wow look at the difference 6 days makes its crazy also what do alternating nodes look like. im not planning on flowering till they are about 2 feet cause i got about five feet from top of pot to a maxed out light height also look at that treetrunk stem wow !!! fans work wonders

 

[THE BROTHER'S GRUNT]

hey guys ill have some pics in 24 hours but i got a question since i transplanted 6 days ago 5 of 6 plants are thriving doubled size actually. but one looks limp like it needs viagra or sumthing. only a couple tiny yellow spots that arent growing or multiplying have only watered once and it may need water again but after last watering it stayed limp any ideas

Did you damage the roots when you transplanted by any chance?

 

[learnin to gro]

must have messed em up a little the root ball kind of fell on one of em when i tipped em. it must have been that one it is starting to turn now though hopefully i didnt do any permanant damage

 

[learnin to gro]

hey does anyone know how to check soil ph with an electrode ph pen also does anyone know what might be up with my plants they have some random yellow orange spots. not too many but a few will get pics tomorrow any help appreciated PLZ

 

[learnin to gro]

here are pics of yellow orange spots im getting they arent everywhere but are multiplying ive only so far used nutes on my two biggest and will feed the smaller ones next water which is in two days i started with grow big FF 1/2 strength and had no nute burn but these spots have been popping up for about 10 days now. ive checked ph as best i could and used one plant as a test dummy to try to lower the ph i ran ph5.2 water through the p[lant and the runoff was 6.2 anyways any ideas i have an electrode pen ph so getting exact soil ph is tough

 

[rockydog]

Not sure about the electrode pen, but I would definately check the pH, FF always sends mine really acidic. You can buy a nice tester at home depot for $15.

The girls look good though, nice fat leaves with tight internodes.

 

[Stoney Bud]

Hey, learnin to gro, those plants look stressed to me. How many watts of what do you have on them, and how far is the bulb away from the very top of the plants? Do you have drainage holes in the bottom of those buckets so that the plants can drain properly? Did the soil you're using have any types of nutes at all in it?

I'm sure part of the problem is with all the handleing the plants have had. Let me know the answers to the questions I asked and we'll go from there. Try leaving the plants alone for a few days. No touchy no feely. Water with only water, no nutes. Lets see if they pick up some. Water only if they are kind of dry. The weight of the bucket should make it obvious to you. Don't water unless the buckets are getting light. Regular watering kills a lot of plants. They don't have clocks or hours. They only need water when the water is almost gone. Then only enough to moisten the dirt good, not wet it.

 

[skunk]

good luck. ps the 2 you said that died did they just not germinate?

 

[Sin inc]

hey i hope you find out whats happing soon it would be ashame not to some of those in the end. good luck

 

[learnin to gro]

thanks for all the replies stoney i will answer your questions toni=ght got to get to work and thanks all also 15$ for a ph tester at home depot im there

 

[learnin to gro]

Hey, learnin to gro, those plants look stressed to me. How many watts of what do you have on them, and how far is the bulb away from the very top of the plants? Do you have drainage holes in the bottom of those buckets so that the plants can drain properly? Did the soil you're using have any types of nutes at all in it?

ok here it goessoil is a mix of 1/2 ocean forest 1/4 perlite 1/4 regular potting soil no nutes... overwatering is not possible as i wait until its dry 2or 3inces down before watering and there are 20to 30 5/16 inch holes drilled in the bottom of each bucket also lights are 400watt hps and 400 watt MH on switchable ballast so when it comes to flower i can have two hps... they are at the closest 6or 8 inches from the light but the temp at that spot is only 76 and has not gone higher in two weeks im going to raise lights but they grew so fast and are still growing super fast.... as for nutes i have only given the two biggest a half dose of FF grow big and they took it well while all the plants have the same similar spots and the big ones have no more or less than the little ones im going to flush em all with ph 6.2 and just go from there..... any other input from you stoney or kade would be great or anyone else.... hick suggested that the the lower leaves could have gotten burned from water dropping on leaves then having direct light... which is probably true for the lower but the upper i dont know

 

[learnin to gro]

hey me again looks like i got some white hairs and on my two biggest do they start at the upper nodes first just wondering and is it normal to get preflowers this early 35 days from seed with lights on 24/7 also when flushing i measured ph and the runoff was 6.4 is it possible to be giving the plants too much light causing spots like that meaning light too close but not too hot i mean i have 9 nodes in about ten inches and two branches at each node and two branches coming off of each one of those its about 6inches wider than it is tall

 

[Stoney Bud]

...lights are 400watt hps and 400 watt MH on switchable ballast so when it comes to flower i can have two hps... they are at the closest 6or 8 inches from the light but the temp at that spot is only 76 and has not gone higher in two weeks im going to raise lights...

Those lights are too close. For a 400 watt light, it should be 18 inches from the plant tips. That's probably most of your problem.

Take those puppies up to 18 inches. You're frying your plants man. The same thing that gives you a sunburn is what is hurting your plants. Infrared light. You can't see it, you can't feel it and it will fry you and your plants. Think about what you know about cloudy days and how you can get a real bad sunburn even tho it's not hot and it seems to be very little sun. That's the infrared spectrum frying your skin. It's exactly the same with the plants. Your lights are putting out lots of infrared. With 400 watt lights at 18 inches, the infrared is diminished enough to not hurt the plants.

Good luck man. Move those lights up and I think your problems will slowly go away. The leaf that is already burnt won't heal, but at least no more will burn. In about a week, you should start seeing them show better color, leaf shape and leaf appearance towards the normal growth of healthy leaf.

 

[rockydog]

Wow I need to stop scroolin so fast, I totally missed the 2nd set of pics. I agree with Stoney. My plants did that when my room got too hot.

 

[Stoney Bud]

Wow I need to stop scrolling so fast, I totally missed the 2nd set of pics. I agree with Stoney. My plants did that when my room got too hot.

Yes, rockydog, heat stress can also do that. His problem is infrared spectrum burn. It's really not so much the heat as it is the spectrum of light that is concentrated onto the leaf surface.

 

[learnin to gro]

thankyou thankyou thankyou you guys rock dont know what id do without you... stoney thanks a million feedback in hours from someone who has done it a million times!!!! i will smoke one giant white widow fatty just 4 u (illl probably put it out after 3 hits but ill try) this site the mods the vast knowledge i will do my best to repay you all and future noobs with wisdom learned from all

 

[rockydog]

Yes, rockydog, heat stress can also do that. His problem is infrared spectrum burn. It's really not so much the heat as it is the spectrum of light that is concentrated onto the leaf surface.

Thanks, I learn so much everyday from you'll.