devilfrog said:
Gee,
Im doing a sog, how can it be less efficient, Ill be turning buds more often with less veg time, I think that equals more efficient. I need more plants, crammed in my weak 400 space, due to the nature of smaller plants. A 400 will work just fine, I dont have 400's as you mentioned, just one. would you prefer I use a 1000 for that space, well I dont want to. You think its weak, I dont, oh well. The plants will get the co2 thats naturally occurring in the air, last time I looked outside, the crammed up bushes around the park didnt have co2 bottles next to them. The water, well, it comes from a RO machine up the street, I put a quarter in the machine, and the water squirts out in to my jug, I take the jug home, and then pour the water on the plants. I never said that I was going to get a pound, please show me where I said that? I dont care of rep either, and dont care if you did leave a nasty gram or whatever it is, but I do appreciate you saying that you didnt. Im glad your not part of a click, Im really proud of you for that, and no, I dont care to ask around if someone I dont even know is part of some cyber thing. Jumping on the internet and spreading false information? Where did that happen? I just asked a question, and then stated what I was doing under the guidance of others input, I guess spreading false information can go on the list now, with boot in the rear, and the others. Why am I wrong? because I want to push the limits on space? Sir, I dont think that makes me wrong at all, but if you think so, oh well, and congradulations, we all have an opinion dont we. Ahhh, I did do my homework, everything has been researched up to this point, or atleast as much as I could find and read. Just waiting for the cuttings to take so that 25 of them can go under a 400w. I do plan on getting some more grows in the future, thanks for the advise! However, I have no plans of coming back and arguing with anyone, I could turn 10 lbs (all thou highly unlikey) and wouldnt care anymore or less if I turned 1/4 lb. My point is that if I do succeed, Im not the type of person to rub it in anyones face, and secondly I dont base my personal value to myself on how much grass I can grow. At the end of the day who cares, right! Your comment of coming back and arguing, has really defined the tone of this whole thread, in my opinion, that its just a pissing match. I dont want to agree with someones opinion, with respect, and it turns into a one sided name calling game. Do you see my point, you think I want to argue, when all I wanted to know was is a 8"x8" area to tight for a sog. The funny thing is, 2 members gave me the direction, I want to take, on the first page of this thread! Everything else there after has pretty much been cannon fodder with the mentality of, how did you say it, come in here and agrue with the.....yup I'll say it....big dog's. That is a really poor statement, and only further validates my point, of get on board with the click or get punished. However if I do as I am told then everything is copeisatic, right? Well not to be rude, but there was a society that functioned under those same principles, it was called the third reich, and it was controlled by a group of people called the nazi's.
Before I go, let me leave you with this, just because you failed, then Im bound too also? That is not at all a logical thought.
take care
God Bless and keep your chin up, it will get better
But if it will make you feel better, as you are clearly aggitated, would you like me to say your right? Will you be at ease then?
MY point is, ad still is correct.
NOW after reading this I feel better knowing you know less than I thought.
Good luck to you buddy...your gonna need it.
If your reding complrehension skills are always this bad, I am wondering how you got this far. If this is what one would consider far.
Your plan WILL fail, meaning you will NOT get MORE.
I can almost guarantee you ger the following issues:
Stretch from lack of co2. (If you lock a few hundred people in a sealed room how long before it gets stuffy?)
Powder Mildew. Promise. Too dense of a canopy is too dense of a canopy.
Bugs. You are never going to be able to spray your nightmare if you get even ONE spider mite.
Foliar issues. How are you going to feed all those plants crammed in a small space. Seems like a lot of work. 'Specially since you have to do it every few days.
Poor light penatration. Yes, there is such thing as too dense. I know, I HAVE GROWN BEFORE.
My advice is no longer free at this point, you need to type more self doubting, misunderstood long winded internet rants for me to give you more nuggets from my head.
Enjoy your overgrown garden, don't say (we) at MP did not warn you.
There is a reason most other sites do not like mp, wanna know what that is?
There is NO room for ** on a site like this. Fact, trusted, trials, and a few hundred years of accumilated growing exp and knowledge.
I myself posess almost a lifetime, handed down, from a family of botanists.
Go ahead, do what you feel like you gotta do.
Eventually I hope you give up. One less grower to compete with when things go legal.
Good day to you sir, have fun trying to get all the dead leaves out of your mess of a grow.
Maybe when you get a few more under your belt you may agree with what other HIGLY EPIERIENCED GROWERS are trying to tell you.
Thinking you can cram 25 tiny plants under your tiny 400 in my mind is a waste of time. Maybe you could start from the beginning again, like growing under an led in your pc case. Seems better suited for someone with your level of EXPERIENCE. Actual grows, start to finish.
You can do all the reading and reserch you like, seems to me that in your mind, things dont fit or you have a notiuon well, then that is the NEW fact and all of us actual growers know nothing.
We get folks like you all the time claiming crazyness...like roots srpouting seeds and whatnot.
Guess what?
They are ALL met with the same attitude: Dont come here making claims, false claims and not be prepared to be disagreed with.
Understand?
Can you see now?
Use your "Imagination" that seems to be failing you. Horribly.